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ben_vulpes: sorry phf i only respond to un-prefixed commands
mircea_popescu: omaigerd phf losing lines is v bad.
mircea_popescu: so thinking about it, phf really deflated my article. fact remains : cpu is cpu, it will do what it will do. whatever the fuck you call what it does, it's what it does. yes ada is well mistaken to speak wrong mathematics, but then again it's not a mathematics shop. you want to use your lengthier, thicker and more nodular math cock to mock the poor engineers, go ahead, but the fuck it does.
asciilifeform: phf: possibly, https://web.archive.org/web/20030905055728/http://freeroller.net/page/vanessa/20030820
mircea_popescu: phf that's her isn't it ? the woman with a horse face ? carrie something ?
asciilifeform: as i understand that was phf's usage.
asciilifeform: phf: if the halting theorem were actually taught as serious business, the coq-suckers would eventually have to fellate their pistols.
asciilifeform: phf: gosling
asciilifeform: phf: bytecode-compile
asciilifeform: phf nailed it.
asciilifeform: phf: http://tech.venefyxatu.be/item/57
davout: phf: indeed
davout: phf: requires voice, gpg etc. might not always be desired
trinque: phf: seems if my nick is automagically changed, my welcome hook would notice that and do the ghost as written
trinque: phf: my bot-check-nick would still work in that case
mircea_popescu: phf you can ghost arbitrary nick no matter what you'rte called.
trinque: phf: ah that's simpler
trinque: phf: http://dpaste.com/1SZ14HH << here's what I beat your example into
a111: Logged on 2016-04-06 12:30 asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf i find myself agreeing with adlai, the way we have it now, the log is in fact near-unreadable EXCEPT in wwwtron. links oughta dump into the chan assbot-style
asciilifeform: phf: yes, but we haven't the factory.
asciilifeform: phf: there are some very obvious warts in the language - e.g., the compiler is one-pass and you end up having to write c-style prototypes for some functions.
mircea_popescu: phf fwiw i believe "threads" are a miserable kludge, so i can see the angle.
asciilifeform: phf: sbcl exists.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446818 << phf tell you what, ima hold up changing trilema links until you're happy with it then. you say. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: im curious how phf does in domestic arguments.
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of phf from 2 to 3 << Teh desire has been expressed and heard!
mircea_popescu: $rate phf 3 Teh desire has been expressed and heard!
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated phf 2 at 3644159832 << Fixed our boxen!
mircea_popescu: $rated phf
mircea_popescu: phf word. also, a way to go to arbitrary date should be... oh nm, i can just hack teh url.
mircea_popescu: phf i tell you ?! oh oh! i c.
mircea_popescu: phf why isn't linked line first in viewport ?! how am i gonna find what he means ?!
mircea_popescu: so iirc the way this was solved before is, phf makes the page TITLE of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446757 read "phf: i was frankly surprised you managed to produce them manually" and then trinque makes deedbot fetch the TITLE of all pages and this solves reading loglines into chat. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf: well, so far i've succeeded in breaking annotations phf: or maybe not phf: well, something's working anyway <<< bwahahaha check out the ada-lisper at work! :D
mircea_popescu: phf: incidentally there's a bug in ref counter, only finds one ref << thanks danielpbarron :D
mircea_popescu: phf: adlai: i'm half expecting bot to fall over at any second, you want it to spew log lines, you crazy, mang << no, seriously, this is a must. deedbot must say the logline when it sees the reference, there's no way about it, because seeing the line reminds me of the log directly, but clicking links etc is such a high bar...
davout: phf: very cool log you made!
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf i find myself agreeing with adlai, the way we have it now, the log is in fact near-unreadable EXCEPT in wwwtron. links oughta dump into the chan assbot-style ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque phf this is happening amirite ?
mircea_popescu: phf ah ah. dun fret, we'll survive till you get out of social engagements and get back to computer.
mircea_popescu: phf what's the most referenced line plox ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf any chance we get text/author separator vertical aligned ?
trinque: yep the reference links are very nice. thanks phf!
asciilifeform: https://github.com/blog/2144-gpg-signature-verification << shithub cribs from phf !
trinque: phf: eh nevermind, found a typo :p
trinque: phf: how do I keep my fasl from being out of sync with changes to the lisp ?
mircea_popescu: phf is there an equiv to say "from:mircea" ?
mircea_popescu: phf i dun recall what you answered, will i be able to update log references in trilema with a single sql statement ?
BingoBoingo: phf: Wait we wore boy scout uniforms for our auditions?
asciilifeform: phf is a winner!111
asciilifeform: phf: you need a man willing to pull the pin, yes. BUT you ALSO need the pin !
asciilifeform: phf: this goes back, again, to mircea_popescu's human-element. see the 'pulling the pin' thread from 2 wks ago
mircea_popescu: phf you are not alone in the view that this whole thing is too soon.
asciilifeform: phf: guess what, this is coming back!1111
asciilifeform: phf: definitely not the latter, x86 is to be killed and cement poured where it is buried
ben_vulpes: phf: are you familiar with trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ ?
ben_vulpes: phf: correctly restated: "in the context of producing nonce-th block/bit digests per 'prerequisite'"
asciilifeform: phf: iirc they were going to, but then went in and barfed and broke out the ddt
mircea_popescu: lol. asciilifeform is learning phf'sproblem-solving algo i see!!!
asciilifeform: phf is learning mircea_popescu's problem-solving algo i see! l0l
asciilifeform: phf: i never managed it. but you ~can~ run it on a box without dbus, it appears.
BingoBoingo: phf: alf seems to run chromium, so probably? Journey to doing so likely unpleasant
jurov: lol phf... then implement "imma garbage collecting, come back later" message?
mircea_popescu: phf : "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzate Și pilonul rușinos Măruntaie ale ultimului preot Ultimul rege șarpe. FSE: Tsyavlovsky. "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzat ...": (epigrame despre accesorii Pușkin). - 1962 (text)"
mircea_popescu: phf> boyer moore horspool further shaves the search down to .19s << this is pretty epic.
mircea_popescu: phf> an alternative to tmux can be "detachtty", << by now i'm completely sold on screen.
mircea_popescu: phf> i can has log reader sometime today tomorrow << worx.
asciilifeform: phf: lulzily, symbolics sold a 3620 (the machine i have) but in 'deployment' variant, it was physically identical but had legalese forbidding development
shinohai: ^ thx phf that looks neat
ben_vulpes: phf: i'm waiting for him to chime in
deedbot: phf_mobile voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: $up phf_mobile
deedbot: shinohai may not $up phf_mobile
shinohai: $up phf_mobile
deedbot: shinohai may not $up phf
shinohai: $up phf
ben_vulpes: "rsync and asdf:load-system" (tm r phf)
trinque: phf's log viewer looks very nice; if that's not close enough to completion I can put one up on monday.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's plan/eta with logs ? trinque mike_c phf ?
ben_vulpes: technical note, all wotpastes linked in #trilema will expire in 36 hours. i'll have to work with phf to get something in place to preserve pastes from #trilema.
mircea_popescu: you know, trinque asciilifeform phf ben_vulpes and other folks with the lisp interest : diana_coman 's mishap earlier makes me think about this. so... "changing code without restart is pretty cool". subjectively, it feels that way, i feel it. but then ... what of the people caught in mid transaction by an invisible change ? seems to me this coolness resolves no actual problem, just pushes the goop around.
deedbot: deedbot rated phf 1
mircea_popescu: !lord phf
ben_vulpes: thanks trinque, phf
trinque: I'll properly package the source, clean shit up a bit, then post for asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, phf to give a beating.
asciilifeform: <phf> Upload em and I will implement mp-array that can be indexed with negatives << phun phakt, c will ~happily~ permit you to index with negatives.
mircea_popescu: phf now i much better understand your reluctancy to tree
mircea_popescu: phf no negative numbers on your planet ?
mircea_popescu: phf> it's also not as useful for freeform searching like << why not ? reunion!
mircea_popescu: phf> so you generally have two problems, one is "how do i group together multiple source code files in order to indicate they are part of same codebase", second is "how do i indicate dependency of this codebase on this other codebase" and third is "how do i autodownload things from internet" <<< all of which are really "how do i install v"
mircea_popescu: phf> So kako's dump which is only id;timestamp;nick;message adds up to ~~150mb <<< when does this start ?
asciilifeform: phf: toggleable whitespace word boundaries would be useful but i argue that if we can only have one thing, we oughta have the thing you linked to.
asciilifeform: phf: neato
asciilifeform: phf: if i could choose between rent and seasickness, i would choose the latter.
pete_dushenski: phf: you forgot tumblr gifpr0n
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, phf: ever actually connect over satellite ? the lag is atrocious
BingoBoingo: <phf> proper way to deal with iowa is buy a house, get your 800$/mo satellite internet (not even checking what's available, why bother), and do your aerospace/banking/medical it consulting work remote << In Iowa you can probably get fiber internet unless you conciously decide to farm or hermit
asciilifeform: phf: does this remind you of anything ?
jurov: phf, as a lisp newbie i wondered why asdf is so consistently tagged "obsolete" everywhere
asciilifeform: phf: remind me again why cmucl and not sbcl