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BingoBoingo: Wait "<mircea_popescu> fwiw /msg ChanServ FLAGS #trilema deedbot +AOhiortv still works, so w/e." A string fleanode accepts contains "Ohio" and "tv" could this thing be more John Kasich
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/08WY65E.txt
deedbot-: accepted: 1
asciilifeform: adlai: what's that ?
adlai: statement hashes, for notarization
asciilifeform: statement of ?
adlai: profits and/or losses
asciilifeform: adlai: whose ?
adlai: http://w.b-a.link/user/adlai does rather speak for itself
asciilifeform: not really ?
adlai: jurov has been kindly humoring my delusions of "feeling like a trader", and continues to do so.
asciilifeform: ah
adlai: mircea_popescu: re "seems to me this coolness resolves no actual problem, just pushes the goop around.", this ends up just as bad as patching binaries directly, or worse, because it feels like you're just writing more source
phf: the point is not so much to patch code in production (though it makes sense on lisp machine since there's no "non-production"), but to support repl-based development process
asciilifeform: phf: lulzily, symbolics sold a 3620 (the machine i have) but in 'deployment' variant, it was physically identical but had legalese forbidding development
asciilifeform: iirc it was called 3610?
asciilifeform: literally no diff but for the number stamped on the chassis.
phf brb, about to enter union station on amtrak
mircea_popescu: phf> i can has log reader sometime today tomorrow << worx.
mircea_popescu: will i be able to alter trilema references to log in one single sql statement ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what even was that thing << looks like shinohai 's trial bot thing
asciilifeform just booted up bsd 4.4 on cardano breadboard, for ze lulz
asciilifeform: yes it fits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty sure everyone should be able to voice self.
mircea_popescu: jurov> are you okay with having a treasurer not on "people mp likes to talk to" list? << that's not really what l1 is you know.
mircea_popescu: more like a "people responsible enough to understand the difference between 'people on tilt' and 'voices of reason'". otherwise i enjoy talking with a wide selection of folks. women, even! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot jurov
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 10 by 10 connections.
mircea_popescu digs up for what the actual criteria for voicing was
mircea_popescu: there, found it : (l1 > 0) || ((l1 > -count(l1)/2) && (l2 > 0))
asciilifeform: holy fuck c compiler worx
mircea_popescu: the things that are surprising now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a tenbux uc
asciilifeform: 1chip
mircea_popescu: phf> an alternative to tmux can be "detachtty", << by now i'm completely sold on screen.
mircea_popescu: phf> boyer moore horspool further shaves the search down to .19s << this is pretty epic.
mircea_popescu: oh oh.
BingoBoingo: Moar Horsepooler!!!11
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how far do we actually want to go with this ancient logs kick ?
asciilifeform: t=0 ?
mircea_popescu: ugh.
mircea_popescu: channe;s keep changing tho. -otc ?
asciilifeform: idk, i personally don't give a nanofuck what, e.g, nefario said, but archaeologists - might...
mircea_popescu: i suppose the matter can be revisited once there's actual archeologists.
asciilifeform: pretty sure mircea_popescu is the closest we got to an archaeologist.
asciilifeform: if we're going for a specifically-#trilema , i.e., mircea_popescutronic flavour, it might make sense to start the l0gz at ~his~ first contact with subj.
mircea_popescu: it's really not terribly interesting, kinda like watching flies fuck. yes, eventually they'll evolve to pron, but meh.
mircea_popescu: i spent half hour going through old log got utterly bored.
danielpbarron: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Current-Julia-Tourianksi-Original-Painting-Kialara-Signature-Series-001-500-/281989019393 << bids almost up to Eulora record auction, still 8 days to go
mircea_popescu: nb
BingoBoingo: imagine how poor FBI interns must feel when they get hazed with tmsr lawgs
mircea_popescu: you suppose this is what people do to each other in the bureaugencies ? pretend like they read the logs / understood trilema, give newbs a hard time ?
mircea_popescu: "go to trilema and find me a snipe!"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz,
mircea_popescu: "sciencehatesyou 3 points 1 day ago* I can't be bothered to read his tedious text. I also don't care what he does with his fake exchange and dumbass site, it's not like anyone was using it. The whole thing was a fake front, a facade, from day one. He has been cast out from butt circles, and as a last resort, was here trolling buttcoin for clicks using sock puppets (and man does that guy use sock puppets - 90% of the users o
mircea_popescu: n his site, and a fair fraction of reddit's users, are him. He has nothing but time on his hands to create fake online identities). The sooner he leaves to be a full time MRA, the better."
mircea_popescu: somehow "apple is mostly mp's fucktoy by mass" and "reddit could buy china" don't collide in her head.
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: butt circles certainly has a ring to it.
BingoBoingo: I thought butt circles were already named ani
mircea_popescu: might depend on butt size.
BingoBoingo: hmmm
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "i don't understand what's being said - must be something wrong with speaker" thing never gets old.
mircea_popescu: sorta like watching mongoloid with carpentry set.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 405482 | Current Difficulty: 1.668515132827772E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 407231 | Next Difficulty In: 1749 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, I get a different checksum on your tar.gz >> 378914b4b8363d941252afc46ae5b9fdd8bf19f37cbc767f60057470000d6f2eca0ed0d7c822d8124e5396762df25d1dfa6a05173ae79eca2aa47ded5117548a tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt.tar.gz
phf: <mircea_popescu> [23:48:39] anyway, this entire "i don't understand what's << it's like the audience in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron checksum is of the extracted file tho
danielpbarron: whoops, n/m then it checks
mircea_popescu: again with the weird brits lol ?
phf: i just can't get over that video
mircea_popescu: why lol
phf: just the amount of confusion all around
mircea_popescu: should prolly blog about it.
mircea_popescu: o hey, nice butterfly!
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/yummymummies/
mircea_popescu: phf : "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzate Și pilonul rușinos Măruntaie ale ultimului preot Ultimul rege șarpe. FSE: Tsyavlovsky. "Suntem buni cetățeni amuzat ...": (epigrame despre accesorii Pușkin). - 1962 (text)"
mircea_popescu: (we are good citizens she-amusing and the snake pillar, entrails of last poet last king snake.)
mircea_popescu: oh i'm sorry, the ~shameful~ pillar.
shinohai: "Look, I don't care if there's a prophecy" <<<LOL
mircea_popescu: davout : fr.anco.is root loads a list of articles, however http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-formal-application-and-letter-of-intent/ and http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report/ both 404 ?
mircea_popescu: the /wp-uploads/ references still work, looks like he fucked up his redirects
mircea_popescu: jurov : s.qntr added.
deedbot-: [Trilema] Qntra (S.QNTR) March 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/qntra-sqntr-march-2016-statement/
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c0c080300cfc02a1085bdb3f74629190/tumblr_o2qtj3tm4e1rztma9o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: $up xx_
deedbot: xx_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ahh dude this is great.
xx_: just reading, because no logs. But thanks.
mircea_popescu: a yea, coming soon.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgvm23MWZU1qcesmoo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform had dream that he was in buenos aires but for some reason had a 'minox' the size of a matchbox, and was spending days and days trying to find film for it
mircea_popescu: to film what ?
asciilifeform: who even knows!
mircea_popescu: o dang, i never took you lot to the ancient camera cafe did i ?
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: will it have film for the minox!
mircea_popescu: there's a cafe here, decor consists of well > 1k old cameras, up to about 1960s or so
mircea_popescu: possibly. already voalated lol.
asciilifeform: well in the dream this is actually what happened! found a shop that sold it, but the clerk nonchalantly wound it from a bobbin in broad daylight, ignoring my grimaces
asciilifeform: lulzily, i have never actually owned a 'minox' or any such thing
mircea_popescu: aha!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgvm23MWZU1qcesmoo1_1280.jpg << they have faces!!1111
asciilifeform: mega-chix
mircea_popescu: somethinjg for everyone!
punkman: oh hey it worx
punkman: gd'afternoon
punkman: asciilifeform: I shot an expired roll with pentax 110 this week, pretty fun
punkman: fuji/kodak stopped making new 110 film years ago iirc
punkman: some folks made a film splitting jig and then cut 35mm rolls into two 110 rolls (in darkroom of course)
asciilifeform: punkman: pretty sure the minox aficionados have a similar thing
punkman: I think a couple small factories occasionally make batches these days, but I still have like a dozen expired rolls
punkman: free "instagram" filters
asciilifeform: l0l
punkman: also from minox, these cool pocket-darkroom thingies http://www.submin.com/8x11/collection/minox/accessories/developing_tanks.htm
asciilifeform: who the hell ~doesn't~ process b&w at home
asciilifeform: sorta the whole point of b&w
mircea_popescu: you can prolly wash and recast your own film really.
mircea_popescu: for black and white.
punkman: huge pita cutting and loading it back into cassettes
mircea_popescu: true.
jurov: S.QNTR was distributed
punkman: http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/articles/56febff0a1bb8d3c3495adf4/
danielpbarron: $up peter_lambert
deedbot: peter_lambert voiced for 30 minutes.
midnightmagic: yay
mircea_popescu: $up davout
deedbot: davout voiced for 30 minutes.
davout: mircea_popescu: ty
davout: so i tried "$up", and then "$v OTP" against deedbot
davout: i get "deedbot hands you a broomstick."
davout: which i fail to compute
mircea_popescu: you pm it $up and it says broomstick ?
davout: nah, it gives me an otp link
davout: it answers that way when i feed it the decrypted otp back
mircea_popescu: hm. trinque ?
davout: yeah, told him
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/6B1syOO.jpg
ben_vulpes: and for asciilifeform: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/19305969764_42490e7635_o.jpg
ben_vulpes: nominally, a "Intel D27512 UV Erasable PROM from 1989"
diana_coman: fwiw deedbot worked for me, although it had 1 min delay to give the otp
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot davout
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 7 by 7 connections.
mircea_popescu: $gettrust deedbot diana_coman
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 3 by 3 connections.
mircea_popescu: seems pretty snappy
diana_coman: it *was* snappy on giving voice ; so: delay at $up, snappy at $v ; maybe just a hiccup, no idea
phf: maybe it was garbage collecting!
jurov: lol phf... then implement "imma garbage collecting, come back later" message?
jurov: or, better, ask user "0x524537f3 has refcount 2, found references from 0x546876fed, garbage collect [yn]?"
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0TK5TNG.txt << and pray tell, 50% OF WHAT
mircea_popescu: $up Apocalyp1ic
deedbot: Apocalyp1ic voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: "regular" gasoline for 1.97/gal, "premium clear" (somewhat higher octane, no ethanol) gas for 3.17/gal
ben_vulpes: this has been your consumer energy cost cum shitflation report
mircea_popescu: ie, crazy-five-year-plan-gas doublespoken as "regular" being excised at only 67%, while actual regular at 84%
mircea_popescu: and yet the sane thing's still not twice the price.
ben_vulpes: it's not all plain 'excise', there's rather a lot of corn in "regular".
ben_vulpes: fully granted, corn in the gas is a tax of its own.
mircea_popescu: the other one's taxed so what's left is about half.
mircea_popescu: ie, actual economic agent makes 1.97 * (1-.67) for crazy-five-year-plan-gas and 3.17 * (1-.84) for actual regular.
mircea_popescu: and yet still prefers to sell the actual regular for merely 0.5072 rather than pocket the 0.65 for crazy-five-year-plan-gas.
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, "entrepreneurs hate socialism". either that or nature hates it outright.
mircea_popescu: davout http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report#comment-8366 to assuage teh concerned
deedbot-: [Qntra] 20th Anniversary Of Kaczynski's Capture Today - http://qntra.net/2016/04/20th-anniversary-of-kaczynskis-capture-today/
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did you derive those rates?
deedbot-: [Trilema] BitBet (S.BBET) March 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/bitbet-sbbet-march-2016-statement/
BingoBoingo: Lulz for opening day (no dude who promted rule change is not yet on a 25 man roster) https://archive.is/ECvLi
mircea_popescu: that part's complicated o.O
asciilifeform: looks like mircea_popescu found the 200 ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes> and for asciilifeform: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3834/19305969764_42490e7635_o.jpg << i think i posted that
asciilifeform: or possibly one of my old colleagues did, i left a bunch of those roms and my microscope with them
asciilifeform: this is a cruddy shot tho
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/cZlRWor << what i had lying round
asciilifeform: taken with shitcam on pnohe through the ocular
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you mean "found".
asciilifeform: well, nailed down where the number came from
mircea_popescu: twas never anything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm ok