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asciilifeform: ( the q of where tortoise to go, so as not straight to soup, is ~separate~ q )
mircea_popescu: mocky is doing ok on toyota so far.
asciilifeform: if you're an old tortoise, it's $mil.
asciilifeform: i guess 'less than that' if yer a gurl and mircea_popescu likes yer bust, or how else.
mircea_popescu: it's less than that, but morons.
asciilifeform: ( think, if jailbreak were 'pay $toyota', usa would empty overnight )
asciilifeform: funnily enuff , last time asciilifeform went to dig, turned up people who claim to conjure up 'ro ancestor' for $toyota, and bake legit passport; but i'ma believe it when i see it and as far as can throw it ( plus they only work on ukrs, which is imho a dead giveaway of spamola )
mircea_popescu: "crackdown" comes from the same mental universe as "pantsuit has always last word -- and it is yes sir".
mircea_popescu: the very verbiafge, you know ? "crackdown" ? as fucking if what, the pantsuit isn't a party favour, passed around for anal freely ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA, unfair that terrorists can "invest" for passport, unfair competition for Merkel's North African flotilla
asciilifeform: but yes usg is squeezing necks, too many zeks escaping, even with the current ~$1m price tag
asciilifeform: ohnoez! folx gettin' passports without having ever fucked a goat in the name of prophet!
mircea_popescu: but unlike the drone bois -- the girls DO SOMETHING.
mircea_popescu: not much of one -- a bunch of rando camhos got ~same to write on their tits.
mircea_popescu: 50k is so not the problem here.
asciilifeform: but yes, i'm not esp surprised that the derps 'working' on 3600. given as 1) 'ivory' needs ~20-50 k $ in either chinese microscopist, or nixon's burglars , take yer pick 2) 3600 is massive forest of idjit hackolade, which these people seem to ~like~, the way scarab luvvs shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am contacting you from the future, a time when "microsoft" "bought" whatever.
BingoBoingo: Well it can probably run indefinitely displaying the output of hello.world
asciilifeform: naa lol, it'll be 'starteam', they're microshit shop, see.
mircea_popescu: old famous tech deserves nothing less
asciilifeform: maybe in another 10yr they cough up 3600 emulator. in c#. that maybe runs for 5+min without crash.
mircea_popescu: part of why i'm so "eh, tell it to the hand" about the whole "they're working" angle. no, they aren't.
asciilifeform: ( weighed, roughly, what toyota weighs )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is theoretically possible to write 3600 emulator without much brain work, the instr set is (mostly) described in their 600 (!) page patent. but there's very little to be gained from doing so, the 3600 arch is before they cleaned all of the mit shit-hackolade out of the thing, it has million idjit warts inherited from when the thing was a refrigerator-sized dumpster of 74xxx discretes
asciilifeform: beats the shit out of what i'm sitting in front of, in 9000 ways
asciilifeform: 'PERQemu is written in C# under the .NET Framework 2.0. The source code is now available on GitHub...' << blergh
amberglint: yeah, it's the same one
amberglint: asciilifeform: this one https://github.com/jdersch/PERQemu
asciilifeform: zeptobars seems pretty dead; their site is up, but pretty sure that all of the pics therein, were there last yr ☟︎
amberglint: well, one of them wrote a PERQ emulator
mircea_popescu: people with the biggest beer mugs are similarly busy discussing things about the game on tv.
mircea_popescu: amberglint i have my doubts they're doing any such thing.
asciilifeform: amberglint: i.e. they're carefully avoiding risk of doing anything useful
asciilifeform: fwiw i did ( could unearth thread , but who wants, can find ) get quote from chinese, they will happily photograph crystal for ~toyota's worth
amberglint: the people who have the biggest stash of Ivory hardware are busy writing their own emulator of the older 3600 machines right now, the last time I checked
mircea_popescu: and some ru outfit that was going to acid-peel and image chips, and a museum dork thart was going to rent me time on one of his boxes but then didn't nor felt any need to explain why he's stupid, and some other dork gonna build himself a vent, and so on and so forth.
asciilifeform: and of course there is a mircea_popescu to laugh, cuz it's pretty laughable state of affairs
asciilifeform: and a buncha http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693150 tards with working (while caps last..) boxes but 0 brain ☝︎
asciilifeform: right nao there's a d00d with 2 crystals; and another d00d with maybe-pinouts; and a gorlum somewhere with maybe-tapes; etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik nobody's even picked up enuff frags with which to make even half of a serious attempt, at that
asciilifeform: amberglint: iirc he found pinouts. not crown jewels, tho could be of use in ~very slowly~ getting sumthing useful from the 2 'ivory' crystals i traded a 3620 for
mircea_popescu: logs are littered with the attempts.
mircea_popescu: afaik this is a botomless pit, trying to pay people to eg imagine ivories/bolixen etc is less roi than buying girls new stockings.
asciilifeform: ( in asciilifeform's practice, tape keeps for ~maybe~ 10y, and that's in hermetic container... )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 02:44 phf: asciilifeform: i actually forgot! i'm swamped right now, but can you remind me again in about two weeks, i have a thing for you from the dig that will help with the little piece of silicon you have
amberglint: I was about to ask phf about his Ivory-related efforts, but checked the logs again just now and found that asciilifeform already did it two days ago, which I overlooked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862616 ☝︎
asciilifeform: maybe in 100 tapes , 1 or 2 still readable. whoknows.
asciilifeform: nao, on other hand, the ~orig~ bolix, leaked like sieve, yes, regularly we hear about some old fart sitting on buncha tapes he picked up from dumpster, but always same element in story, he sits like tolkien's gorlum, 'my precious!', on the goods
asciilifeform: ( tho i cannot rule out hypothesis that it lives in same place as apollo rocket, i.e. /dev/null, was lost )
asciilifeform: by all indications seems to, bolix lives there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now if only such a thing existed irl.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-10 03:40 asciilifeform: 'watchman may not know what is behind the door he is guarding; if he knew - would steal it himself' (tm) (r) (sov army)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by my reckoning, the actually valuable and not-yet-leaked stuff, is in 'indiana jones' warehouse, behind http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 , rather than on swiss cheese php www etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "i plugged this stick i found in the parking lot into your computer" / "i gave some guy an all-doors pass cuz he was wearing gray overalls with some name i don't remember on the back" etcetera.
mircea_popescu: nobody's ever getting fired for giving away the expensive company car to a guy dressed in a red coat. "i thought he was the parking vallet".
mircea_popescu: EVERYTHING they do is.
mircea_popescu: it's not just "credit cards" or "websites" or w/e else specific pwned-daily aspect of the female state that's fulla holes moreso than aerogel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform could've, for the same money. "for cleanning".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fortunately errybody present speaks human langs, and knows that mircea_popescu was trying to say 'can can'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d did spill that he dun keep 'crown jewels' in his house.
mircea_popescu: but -- gotta want, before can can. much like talking to girls -- yes, could. but gotta want to before can can.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 01:04 asciilifeform: amberglint: when i went to his house 10y ago, offered to him to make fpga-ized 'ivory' , 'pro bono', if he'd only cough up with what. answr was approx 'can't , unless my master permits, and he wouldn't'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863774 << could have easily organised a "break-in", stuff coulda been out of there before anyone even "discovered" and reported it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: maybe you used to be too young.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik amberglint is the 1st digger to actually share , normally bolix folx avoid asciilifeform like the plague, as detailed in old thrds, for whatever psychopathological reasons
amberglint: I found your blog, and in there I found the references to this place
amberglint: the crack? I talked to some people in #bolix and eventually got it
amberglint: I don't think phf knows me
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, tho possibly phf might , he appeared during prev bolix/ivory thread
amberglint: mircea_popescu: thank you, I'll read (or re-read) that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the fellow ? beyond "russian!" ?
mircea_popescu: 4th reich specifically being the next/current socialist state
mircea_popescu: amberglint http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/ for the theory ; http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ a primer for the practice. in short, republic's created a bunch of symbolic shorthands for things.
amberglint: he'll just become the next Andrew Topping, or whoever was the previous owner
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 01:05 asciilifeform: i have nfi what is the psychology , is it like the nazi gold, 'we'll build a 4th reich and will need it' or how.
amberglint: what's '4th reich' even supposed to be?
asciilifeform: amberglint: think -- bolix bankrupt (for 2nd, and final time) ~20 yrs ago now. still no '4th reich'...
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of amberglint from 1 to 2 << bolix pillage / ns pill
amberglint: I thought so
asciilifeform: amberglint: i wrote to him, incl. once from .mil and 100% paying bolix customer (yes), 0 answer
amberglint: I can't remember, did you try to talk to Mallery directly?
asciilifeform: i have nfi what is the psychology , is it like the nazi gold, 'we'll build a 4th reich and will need it' or how. ☟︎
amberglint: yeah, we talked about his master
asciilifeform: amberglint: when i went to his house 10y ago, offered to him to make fpga-ized 'ivory' , 'pro bono', if he'd only cough up with what. answr was approx 'can't , unless my master permits, and he wouldn't' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: notbad biznis model , when all you want to do is pay electric bill on cramped old house in virginistan
asciilifeform: i suspect he buys'em back from tired archaeologists, and resells ad infinitum
asciilifeform: he even sold his .com domain to spammers.
asciilifeform: old man couldn't be bothered, apparently, to fork out 50bux for renew
asciilifeform: there's scarcely a corpse in the graveyard deader than bolix -- the fucking ~trademark~ lapsed
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:23 asciilifeform: yer more afraid of old ~defunct corp with 60k (look it up, usaspending.gov) than of riaa, mpaa, cia ?
asciilifeform: to avoid replaying old thread, will simply link my http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624999 astonishment ☝︎
asciilifeform: amberglint: i dun buy this excuse; for the pathological coward, there's 9000 ways to post a pill anon
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:21 asciilifeform: for instance, i struggled to find the genera source, and then YEARS later i found out that 'the whisperers' have been quietly passing it around
asciilifeform: or, earlier, thrd, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624994 ☝︎
amberglint: yeah, it's the same deal, I guess some people are afraid of lawsuits from a dead company
asciilifeform: it's funny , these people. e.g. coupla weeks after i posted my pill for http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1667 , that i had to make with own hands , a finn shows up, 'i have one too' 'why didntcha post' '...'
amberglint: whoever made that pill wasn't eager to make it public, I got it in a roundabout way
asciilifeform: 'i'ma sit on this gold' 'why' 'because i am gnome' ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's almost as if the gnomes from norse mythology are real
asciilifeform: amberglint: the psychology of the 'jealous guards' people is still a riddle to me