asciilifeform: esthlos: does it ever bother you that your primary maths link-reference is a spamola farm ?

asciilifeform: esthlos: i tuned out when 'serious' people started talking about 'testability and parsimony aren't mandatory'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752974 << 'macports' iirc still worx ☝︎

asciilifeform: waiwat which yes

asciilifeform: i'm ok with sr/gr

asciilifeform: for the lack of any contact with 'expert perceptions of time', i'll leave this item where it is

asciilifeform: aaa hm

asciilifeform: nuffinelse, that was whole item

asciilifeform: people-stuck-actually-implementing-clocks perception.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf's summary is entirely troo, naggum's item was about time ~units~, zones, seasons. rather than physical concept.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform finds himself in agreement with phf , ~all reasonably-clean distillates taste ~same to him

asciilifeform: ( su-originated items, in particular, 'rebranded' )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have an entire collection of these somewhere

asciilifeform: ( where did we put the old one.. )

asciilifeform: oh hey, a new german maths d00d ?

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: and if you merely long for the days of 8 hour compiles -- will luvv large fpga wurk.

asciilifeform: ( replace 'hours' with 'months' )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd luvvvv pcb design-manufacture loop. asics even moar.

asciilifeform: holy FUQ the gigatonne of 3-syllable-per-line liquishit in this log

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752809 + http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752810 << insta-lol ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the spamtraps, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Or6S8/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all

asciilifeform: mirrored at http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/ffa_ch1_genesis.vpatch.diana_coman.sig , http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/ffa_ch2_logicals.vpatch.diana_coman.sig , http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/ffa_ch3_shifts.vpatch.diana_coman.sig . congrats to diana_coman , first graduate of ch1-ch3 !

asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox to intern sigs at http://www.dianacoman.com/reference-code-shelf , ty

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752733 << this is neato ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640167 and elsewhere ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752728 << possibly we had this thread... ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( consider who occupies ~100% of both tard farm and university maths dept )

asciilifeform: and it's sumthinglike 70-80% female, not male.

asciilifeform: ( so somebody who ranked -1sd on a bad day may well score dead center , the next , etc )

asciilifeform: i suppose if you colour its bottom half 'high functioning tards', it's 34 . but idea is that test is only really accurate to 1sd

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit.

asciilifeform: it dun move.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752723 << bucket3 (i.e. 'normals') was -- definitionally, and now as then -- 68% , i.e. +/- 1 sd . ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( and before anyone mentions 'modern mechanic reads debug codes' -- yes he does, and then spends 5hrs disassembling the greasy, sooty whatevers, to get at $part, just like 100yrs ago. )

asciilifeform: nobody's roboticizing the auto mechanic, either. or 9,000 others.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752721 << the 'errything roboticized, robo-cabbies driving robo-repairmen to their sites' item is an sv hallucination. none of these items exist, or threaten to , for so long as there are pipes and plumbers there is a role for iq100 folx ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform aficionado of subj, has a shelf full of ancient tests from various authors and periods

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752719 << did discuss, in detail, see earlier links ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752724 << unlike walking in fresh air, washing dishes by hand has 0 whatsoever to recommend it. it's busywork, plain and simple, like ru recruits painting snow white and grass green. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: why wouldja 'wash 1 fork' ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752726 << the part i dunget is , why is the '1 fork' scenario contemplated at all ? are washing machines a waste because 'whole cubometre, you say, for 1 sock' ? for instance asciilifeform has 0 problem filling regular-sized dishwasher in <1day , and that's with 3 meals and a crew of only 2 . ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: dun sound like much

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: waiwat

asciilifeform: they work pretty well, to the point that asciilifeform sees dwellings where one aint installed, as roughly similar to ones with outdoor latrine ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752635 << possibly we had this thread but... what exactly is wrong with mechanical dishwashers ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: how's bananistan

asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: grr

asciilifeform: !!up trobin

asciilifeform: say, 'tards who need caretakers/gasenwagen', 'tards who need tard trainers, can be made employable', 'normal folx', 'people worth teaching booklearningz' ☟︎

asciilifeform: as 'iq tests' were used 100yr ago, worked great . i.e. on ~small children~, who don't train for it or expect it ; and worx fine for sorting folx into the 4 basic buckets, ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752680 << i dun recall ever disagreeing with this: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541407 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-09#1428213 , and elsewhere ☝︎☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: 'continuous' usually is 'is defined for each point'

asciilifeform: ( at least so it was in asciilifeform's kindergarten )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'differentiable'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 << see also re goedel ☝︎

asciilifeform: to the point there is a 'science', it's a box o' heuristics, not magical substitute for errything-incl-priors

asciilifeform: ins'allah electron will go in correct direction!1

asciilifeform: speaking of this, brb

asciilifeform: ( specifically how -- i do not know. but entire case is notable because , unlike typical academitard, fella was known to have balls , and successfully fired said balls even on 1 occasion. but he was not mp, worked for a living, eventually defeated. )

asciilifeform: quite characteristically , he was driven into deleting ~own~ errythings

asciilifeform: he collected, and self-published as shitazon + deadtree ( which i even have, picked up before it was banned ) . then zapped.

asciilifeform: the earlier txt , consisted of the 'best-of' of his 2nd blog ( sans the comments )

asciilifeform: and it isn't boring , either. pretty great stuff.

asciilifeform: from same thread, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.zip << still there, still afaik only copy of his 1st blog in existence on public net ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-16#925211 << in particular. ( notably, it happened TWICE. 1st time he -- iirc -- sued, and won. 2nd time -- gone for good. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ see also.

asciilifeform: !#s ilkka

asciilifeform: ( also vanished, unsurprisingly )

asciilifeform: originally lived in his blog, and presumably looked similar.

asciilifeform: unprocessed.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's lifted directly out of the ( long ago vanished ) shitazon 'ebook' copy.

asciilifeform: ( he was a finn, and knew swedish )

asciilifeform: ilkka kokkarinen ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.txt ! ) , censored and defrocked-for-failing-to-usgkowtow comp sci professor , described this at some point

asciilifeform: and cleverly hide behind the clitlers , somehow.

asciilifeform: supposedly typical swede still believes that ( at this point, centenarian ? ) nazis seekreetly run errything in sweden

asciilifeform: right, the mystery reduces to who 'bobbitted' them

asciilifeform: they made bank on the war, oughta be ridin' high even nao

asciilifeform: yes but why then.

asciilifeform: i still have nfi wtf happened to the swedes. in '40s they were an actual thing, supplied something short of 100% of german iron

asciilifeform: the marginally less-herbivorous survived, to slowly eltsin to death in casinos in dakota somewhere

asciilifeform: nobody's passed out exemptions from this.

asciilifeform: herbivore oughta be ready to play his own piece in foodchain, however.

asciilifeform: scale model of empire

asciilifeform: dunno if it makes sense to equate gatherer-monkey to bureaucrat

asciilifeform: i.e. empire ( unless martians were to drop food... )

asciilifeform: an afaik mandatory precondition for bureaucracy , is to have with what to feed the mass of useless folx

asciilifeform: it can only happen when empire -- just like can't have a chernobyl before discovering fission

asciilifeform: they still suffer it.

asciilifeform: the chinese had the misfortune to invent the bureaucrat, the 'delusionist' , and other undesirable 'moderns' , 2k yr before europe 'climbed down from trees'

asciilifeform: poverty makes some folx frugal, thrifty, able to make wonders 'in 4kB of ram' etc -- others -- into monkeys, and asciilifeform doesn't know why

asciilifeform: nearly escaped the island, even

asciilifeform: aha, island, beggars collected iron nails after a fire, etc.

asciilifeform: ( they look exactly as if )

asciilifeform: lolyes ever see ye olde gravures, with the mousetrap shoes.

asciilifeform: or hm misparsed?

asciilifeform: chimney, but 'not same thing'