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a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 10:20 mircea_popescu: and the other item in this rapidly depleting bucket of possibly useful ideas : fucking pick. obviously i'll look at a group and go "talk to that one with the tits" or w/e such, my picks are easy peasy. but this doesn't mean yo ucan't pick! look at a group, select the donkey with the more intelligent gaze, talk to that, what's to keep you.

billymg: mp_en_viaje: thank you for the response. it's given me some more to think about

mp_en_viaje: " This being said, there is as always plenty of space for doing better at this, certainly, especially since I know very well how much worse it was before I specifically set about to make it better, step by step" << diana_coman on the everquest

asciilifeform: ( as amply documented by mp_en_viaje ) being 'in better position to evaluate $risk' is often ~bad thing~

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha, but apparently thought asciilifeform had one hidden in back pocket somewhere ?? ☝︎

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Well, it seems like the last gasp of the current OldWoman regime

billymg: diana_coman: ty, will keep in mind

asciilifeform: there are various known solutions to this, but none (unsurprisingly) 'official'. mp_en_viaje discussed variously in the logs, how it is done.

asciilifeform: billymg: re heavy industrial amts of coin -- the only afaik fella here who could even theoretically help, is mp_en_viaje , ask him when he wakes up, it is possible that this is the year he's buying a soviet sub or sumsuch

billymg: mp_en_viaje: i'm speaking to a realtor in cr soon about some listings, i was hoping to get your thoughts on one of the listings as well as general feedback/guidance on my strategy. i've included some details about my current situation to provide more context. if you could find the time to review please and give advice it would be immensely helpful: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/eC3ir/?raw=true

a111: Logged on 2019-07-03 09:36 mp_en_viaje: certainly, i went by a large big lenin. driver was kinda proud of it, too.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: europistan's deepest nature preserve, neh. 1000 y.o. trees, bison who died errywhere else 400y ago; why not also komsomol then ?

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: haven't been , but it's on the short list of where to move if/when jailbroken

BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> whom, i suspect, went and checked nicole's fetlife profile. << Nah, I took a stab at what's probably the opposite of Italy

asciilifeform pictures mp_en_viaje lodged in that 1 house in viskuli, 1000km of forest around, where they signed the sovok surrender

spyked: diana_coman, nice! brother went to edinburgh and down to canterbury a few days ago, caught about zero rain, which I suppose must be rare

a111: Logged on 2019-07-02 07:07 spyked: lol diana_coman beat me to it! so I'm gonna throw a n-faced die, biased by this fuckin heatwave, and put my finger on vilnius

bvt: phf: if you are still here, one small question: what is the purpose of this line http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_ksum#L64 ? Fs is not used anywhere later.

spyked: lol diana_coman beat me to it! so I'm gonna throw a n-faced die, biased by this fuckin heatwave, and put my finger on vilnius ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-11 03:27 mircea_popescu: back when some imbecile went to fake news media rather than coming to qntra, got sent to jail for it, STILL did not admit there exists no media online besides qntra.

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty

a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 07:44 mircea_popescu: the general expectation of the pantsuit that their century-long loud noise has eliminated the possibility of thought as a backing of human activity is why they're so fucking [http://trilema.com/2015/so-i-found-the-libertard-motherlode/#select

a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 08:32 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, would you say the share system of compensation is rather a help or rather a hindrance in acquiring new writers for the qntra ?

asciilifeform: as i understand, per the teachings of mircea_popescu , if walked 9000 dead ends -- ought to chronicle 9000 dead ends. but when, then, to chronicle the usable ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i have opposite problem, typically end up walking dozen dead end paths before find usable one.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a, i thought you were re: the 1 actual theorem ( asciilifeform has just that 1, and imho pretty trivial result )

asciilifeform mired, it so happens just nao, in pile of saecular crapola, 'lucky' strike similar to mircea_popescu's modem troubles the other day.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu plox to elaborate re 'unreviewable theorems'

asciilifeform ate log. will take mircea_popescu's prescription.

a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 10:05 mircea_popescu: back when chet was an adult woman, decade or so before we met, she ran the only old style kitchen in her neighbourhood. local girlies came to hang out and learn how to cook, her house was always full. my cousin i had hannah live with for a coupla months did the same thing, she had two hgirls one year apart of her own and a half dozen daytime live-ins.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, possibly the problem was you engaged the matter. imo the correct approach to whatever the fuck nonsense they sprout is simply no and moving back to discussing actually important things.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, honestly, a pointed "no" works wonders. you don't have to either cater or appear to cater to their worldview or expectations. they take that just fine.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: those that made it at least in here for some talk are fully visible, see the mp3 guy as most recent but as I said, so far I was 99% on "get eulora finally going" ; this clearly has to change because otherwise by the time it's good to go, there's nobody left or something.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, apparently. cuz the menu is like the limit of existence now or something, the "company policy". wanna queue for cabs ?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i used it recently!

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: lobbesbot is in #eulora

a111: Logged on 2019-07-01 07:35 mircea_popescu: form and unalterable in substance.

a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 15:31 mircea_popescu: jurov is smart kid, gotta have some ankle weights of stupid and loud noises in inner ear lest he doesn't fit in with the idiots he originally originated with anymore.

a111: Logged on 2015-08-21 23:21 mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 18:06 mircea_popescu: trinque, coupla withdrawals ping.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> enjoy << I've come back to a great lol. Only one of the three major local parties appears to not have a clear winner. http://bingology.net/2019/05/26/overview-of-local-electoral-politics-heading-into-the-impending-party-internals/#selection-27.0-27.476 << The Frente's presumptive nominee looks like he'll come up just short of 40% and the Frente is going to a contested convention, may have multiple candidates on the

lobbes: though, I no longer see this as such; this is (as diana_coman, Bingo_Boingo point out) a communications problem

a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 05:48 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 << ah damn, sir. Why are you playing with knives here. It was obvious a long time ago that mircea_popescu just wanted you to submit. You can't block the king from intervening in lordly affairs in his own kingdom.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 23:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1921090 << now that you mention it, i remember this weird theme from before, too. wtf ?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 19:05 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920872 -> what is for asciilifeform "work with mircea_popescu " ?

mircea_popescu: this being the fundamental point here : if you're gonna stay the same, no need to even wait for me to rate whatever. just fucking walk away. the point of republican life is meaningful change, not herpderp, my own insanity is so much better than pete_d's or whoevers, notwithstanding they're both made of exactly same infantile substance.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 18:30 asciilifeform: i gotta go and do a meat chore for 2h or so. if mircea_popescu et al have specific q for asciilifeform , will answer when come back. if mircea_popescu says 'instead do x', i'ma see if i have with what. else would prefer to skip the 2017 ' mircea_popescu plays with his food ' and take the -10 sooner rather than later-and-wasted-errybodys-time .

asciilifeform: arguably Mocky , in mircea_popescu's school of thought, achieved much moar. but still apparently in glue trap.

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu & co. indicate that they'd care to read this, then sure. otherwise waste.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for extra lulz, asciilifeform's salt mine detail consists of very similar thing to what diana_coman does ( unravel ancient cpp hairball, replacing w/ sanity, under the drums of Proper Management an' w/ regular parcels & report etc )

BingoBoingo: There's one way to keep mircea_popescu from going home and that is action. Blades spin, clock ticks, can't walk backwards in time, etc... gotta start acting.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 18:27 asciilifeform: and isp where mircea_popescu is ~only customer.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 15:50 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i like to work with mircea_popescu , and would prefer to continue, but as i understand was already proclaimed a lamer, and why would mircea_popescu want to work with a lamer ?

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920872 -> what is for asciilifeform "work with mircea_popescu " ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i gotta go and do a meat chore for 2h or so. if mircea_popescu et al have specific q for asciilifeform , will answer when come back. if mircea_popescu says 'instead do x', i'ma see if i have with what. else would prefer to skip the 2017 ' mircea_popescu plays with his food ' and take the -10 sooner rather than later-and-wasted-errybodys-time . ☟︎

asciilifeform: and isp where mircea_popescu is ~only customer. ☟︎

asciilifeform: tried to be the 1st. and ended up with fg ( did it ever make back what mircea_popescu put in for us to bake it ? ) and a demonstrably-correct numerics stack that dun leak ( which apparently nobody wants to even read, much less use )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who, incidentally, ought asciilifeform to have been learning from ? which is the hero that, with full time salt mine, also 'has the items' and keeps the schedule etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu still convinced that ' asciilifeform doesn't think it out properly ' rather than ' trying to take off 'cessna' weighing 2 tonne , loaded with 20 ' ?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:31 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-21#1919128 << yours is no small, but rather eminently the ur-update, not to mention transparently ~everyone's experience.

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu also does not like empty report.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu expects full-time pro a+++ work & reporting from folx who have 0-10 hrs/wk they managed to keep from the salt mine boss.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 17:08 mp_en_viaje: and yes, i get it, it irritates you to high heavens your work isn't moving faster. that's fine. but it is also not the topic here.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 20:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919261 << what i find deeply irritating it's that it tends to be republican work that gets dropped in such situations.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody's tryin' to expropriate mircea_popescu . ( not here anyway )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun have any complaint to mircea_popescu re bent nickels.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun think anyone expects this. if mircea_popescu wanted 7 moar diana_coman's, for something, could have already hired'em

BingoBoingo: Having as we do finite erections and not infinite cunt, we don't have the right parts for mircea_popescu to beat us into having legs. We gotta start making our own legs.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i intend to first learn whether mircea_popescu even wants to run a worm farm.

asciilifeform: if not proceed, then i haven't what to give. and mircea_popescu aint wrong, atm he is in person 90% of the customers.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no worries, lol, i cleared calendar, have time.

asciilifeform: soon enuff will discover that erryone (with exception of diana_coman) is -- worm

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:31 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-21#1919128 << yours is no small, but rather eminently the ur-update, not to mention transparently ~everyone's experience.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun have with what to disagree with mp. he wants professional, well-scheduled performance, like e.g. asciilifeform's day job. and he gets it, from diana_coman , whom he employs fulltime. as for asciilifeform & the other 'hangers on', all they've to bring to the table is, i guess, worm shit ?

asciilifeform: then -- worm ? ( what does mp_en_viaje gain from working with worm ? )

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for my part 'would much rather people ask why there aint a statue to him, than why there is'

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yer terminal is firing double shots

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he did ?! cuz actually mod6 is atm the majority holder, asciilifeform owes a coin ( to piz, and another 1/3 of coin to mp_en_viaje , will prolly end up having to break open cold store for it )

asciilifeform: working from the literal text. where board, consisting of mod6 & asciilifeform , hired BingoBoingo as chairman, with mutual agreement of all parties ( and iirc encouragement of mp_en_viaje & co )

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 16:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu aint wrong, most types of tree actually grow faster than asciilifeform's creations. not to mention on steadier schedule.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 16:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how'bout e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917567 ? was announced in real time as it went.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: then what was topic ? the lack of a per-ch release calendar ? attempted already, all it did is to add to asciilifeform's reputation as charlatan. and for that matter i dun recall any successes among the other folx with day jobs re multiweek calendars for pro-bono worx.

asciilifeform: entirely willing to work with people, review plans, etc. but if mp_en_viaje declares ' i have snails here in terrarium faster than asciilifeform ' then i have no counter-argument, what sorta counter could there be.

mp_en_viaje: yes, i'm very much aware "asciilifeform would rather roll out gossipd, trbi, sane comp irons, etc. ~with~ participation of mp_en_viaje" etc. the problem here is -- you will do no such thing. what you will do, instead, is reconfigure your own desk into some sort of shape you and you alone deem meaningful, and that's all. because it is not POSSIBLE, for the man who can't say either "i will do this" and then do it, nor "i said i would do this, but d

asciilifeform: see, diana_coman , did not misread.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:31 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-21#1919128 << yours is no small, but rather eminently the ur-update, not to mention transparently ~everyone's experience.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma go to tea, and perhaps during this either someone deigns to cut the binomial into pieces that fit in asciilifeform's head, or will fit by itself, or not.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: '...and in time close this one down. Fundamentally, the problem with intelligent people is that their flaws are unfixable -- were they fixable they'd have fixed them by now, and since they didn't fix them before they're not gonna start at any later point, and certainly not because they like you or something.' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu aint wrong, most types of tree actually grow faster than asciilifeform's creations. not to mention on steadier schedule. ☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: how to read e.g. http://trilema.com/2019/no-such-labs-snsa-statement-on-q2-2019/#selection-427.42-433.35 w/out drawing this inference ?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 15:54 diana_coman read the article where it specifically says asciilifeform NOT sacked, nor to be sacked because that's nonsense given NSA's main purpose.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 16:06 asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to do asciilifeform the favour and spell it out as if he were the quasi-retarded 5yo that apparently all of the participants in $thread suspect that he is

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i rec to wait an' see what mircea_popescu et al say -- maybe asciilifeform is a tard and has no biz handling irons, maybe oughta shine shoes

a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 15:44 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm at the tail end of the necessary cycle, was gonna order the irons this wk, and book the flight -- next, but would first rather find out mp_en_viaje's plan

asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to do asciilifeform the favour and spell it out as if he were the quasi-retarded 5yo that apparently all of the participants in $thread suspect that he is ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:46 diana_coman: asciilifeform: I did and I even found it easier than previous material though I'm not sure why;

asciilifeform: diana_coman: what to do when readers are silent ? e.g. all i have re 2019 ch's is diana_coman's http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919204 , thus far. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how'bout e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-06#1917567 ? was announced in real time as it went. ☝︎☟︎