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mircea_popescu: i thought the point was conspicuity.
mircea_popescu: i literally mean, dig up an old bit of grapeshot from age of sail, send it up.,
asciilifeform: now this i cannot say
mircea_popescu: this is how i get it in cars etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, if you have satellite you already have internet ?
asciilifeform: PeterL: sorta why i wrote the most general , unconstrained ffa .
asciilifeform: well i thought of making a 3^n. but there's no reason not to say 'be a whole power of the machine BASE ' !
asciilifeform: i cannot currently say which i prefer
asciilifeform: 4096, i thought, it was
PeterL: (I was using 4160 bits as the limit)
PeterL: (I forgot to increment a variable, so the first number is just 2*(a big exponent of 3) )
PeterL: I am still digesting logs, did you guys agree on a bit size for the primorial you want?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i am sad, but defeated. the dream has to die, it's what it is. so regretfully... 4096 keys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dude, consider the catechistic angle. "soo... why is your key 515 byts ?" "i dunno, his lordship mp said so" "why ?" "nobody knoiws, really. he just says things." "so how do you calculate it ?" "first, you set ffa to 520 bytes..." "why did he say 515 then ?" "uh... that's a good question."
asciilifeform: i'ma repeat that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-14#1697720 is a mistake -- you can still use any key width you like. just gotta 0extend up to the permitted multiple. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall go eat frozen pastry and fume.
mircea_popescu: yes but i see no way out.
asciilifeform: but i specifically did not like that it gives 'traditional keys'
asciilifeform: ftr i considered imposing a 'ffa W is power of 2 or fuckyou'
asciilifeform: but i lost the link.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-14 17:44 mircea_popescu: "N must be 64 because at some point i nthe past a 64 bit machine was released and we care ; N will not have to be 128 in the future because even though an 128 bit machine will probably be released in the future, we don't understand the future and consequently do not care"
mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware.
asciilifeform: it is idiocy and i won't countenance it.
mircea_popescu: "N must be 64 because at some point i nthe past a 64 bit machine was released and we care ; N will not have to be 128 in the future because even though an 128 bit machine will probably be released in the future, we don't understand the future and consequently do not care" ☟︎
asciilifeform: i have nfi where to even begin
asciilifeform: understand, it is not possible to use partial machinewords in the simplest possible (i.e. the one in ffa) arithmetic method.
asciilifeform: btw does it makes sense why i put in that req ?
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> this is actually going to be teh magic number of the republic. so at this juncture i would like to ask everyone to compute "the largest primorial (ie, product of all successive primes) that fits in 515 bits", sign it and put it into deedbot. << is this right (up to 2900)? http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9lxGb/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: this is actually going to be teh magic number of the republic. so at this juncture i would like to ask everyone to compute "the largest primorial (ie, product of all successive primes) that fits in 515 bits", sign it and put it into deedbot. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't mean the disk size of the 8ball, i mean the size of the largest prime in it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe the spawner is the same mother-of-idiocy, always pregnant, always knees spread, that spawned everythiong they do, from "voting" to "gpg"
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, in their own fucking idiota i mean "idioma", it goes like so : "con fuerza y corage dicimos adios". this. this is 100% argentina, brave, brave, brave sir robert turned about and galantly he chickened out... brave brave brave recursos humanos...
trinque: cute backyard tiki torches. I wonder if they got the citronella ones, useful for keeping skeeters away from your /pol/ flash mob.
trinque: mircea_popescu: makes sense. can't stop the bits from leaking; can however simply let the owner of an account know every time something happens, so he can yell at me before I do the next batch of withdrawals if he didn't do it.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694432B << does this render the question of whether T leaked user 1's otp to user N moot? if so I'm not seeing it yet. ☝︎
mike_c: I've got reading to do.
asciilifeform: mike_c: i also have adatronic bitcoin formats ( block, tx, message, indices ) encoder/decoder; and mmaptronic db . but this is not yet primetime product
asciilifeform: i've been pushing folx to return to a 'dijkstaraist' concept of program, as something primarily to be ~read~, and only secondarily as something to execute on comp
mike_c: yeah, mp mentioned that. I'm going to scour some logs for more info on it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-13 20:58 mike_c: yeah, well, from what I remember that's what killed cardano, no? that gpg turned out to be a pile of crap?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-13#1697465 << correct. is how i ended up working on a replacement for pgp ☝︎
mike_c: ok, I'll take a crack at it.
mod6: <+mike_c> mod6 - you mentioned I might need some hand holding. anything I need to know that's not in http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html ? << that /should/ be all you need to know. less steps in the on-line version, but use which ever you need.
mike_c: mod6 - you mentioned I might need some hand holding. anything I need to know that's not in http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html ?
mike_c: yeah, I want to dig up some logs on the rsa stuff.
mike_c: yeah, well, from what I remember that's what killed cardano, no? that gpg turned out to be a pile of crap? ☟︎
mike_c: I'm looking forward to being able to generate a key that I can actually trust.
mod6: mike_c: i had quite a bit of fun testing those FGs; worked pretty great for me.
mircea_popescu: now if only i knew what the fuck i want with it to any meaningful degree...
mircea_popescu: mod6 you prolly have a point there, i should write since it keeps coming up when trying to get intelligent people up to speed.
mike_c: stan's theory for a mesh networked internet at least, I don't remember him proposing it for computing
mircea_popescu: mod6 i suspect that's log-only to date.
mike_c: ok, yeah, I read that one.
mod6: i think, for the most part, it took me like ~8-12 weeks to get the hang of it.
mod6: i've had to learn ada just to keep up & read the thing. help test where I can.
mike_c: stfu, seriously? I managed to avoid that a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: hm... should i lower the pay-for-tits moar ? i mean 2 bitcents is nigh on a hundred bux by now wtf.
mike_c: I will definitely check that out.
mike_c: v I was around for. at least the beginnings.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of new shit, actually. heck, it's unthinkable, but i guess 90% of the republican stuff was made in the past 18 months. i have nfi how this works, somehow the feeling is that "nothing changed" right, it was the same thing then too, no ? yes, and yet... there's v and there's a whole new pile of bots and on it goes.
mike_c: I've got to catch up on the client release notes too, see what mod6 has been up to.
mike_c: I'm sure.
mike_c: i'm working my way through the shop now.
mike_c: indeed. I was excited to see that launch. nice work ascii!
mod6: i've been optimistic though; know you've been busy. don't hesitate to drop us a line tho!
mike_c: i know, right. It's frustrating prioritizing time. Didn't have time to hang, definitely not to work, so felt weird dropping in once a month and saying "hey, haven't done anything, don't have time to do anything" ☟︎
mike_c: i'm trying to buy myself some goats, I heard this was the right place.
mike_c: I have been pretty good, certainly keeping myself busy.
asciilifeform: phf: all of open sores is crawling with cockroaches, i'd be quite surprised if sbcl turned out to be inexplicably clean even now
phf: so this possibly invalidates my original thesis of "wreckers in sbcl!11" i just haven't spent as much time there as i have under other implementations
phf: this sbcl behavior seems old, i have it at least since 1.0.29.11 which is 2009 or so
phf: asciilifeform: nah, there certainly aren't secrets (that i know). i don't know what's been written on the subject, but clearly everything's obvious to dedicated observers. my point is that some things are purview of journalists and historians.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-13 02:40 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697030 << there are ways to silence almost all the "helpful" style warnings, but i couldn't figure out how to fight this one, short of disabling the locks.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-13 02:31 phf: heh, i really want to chat this subject up, but that's something that i probably shouldn't be talking about. i've no idea what's public and what's private.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-13#1697299 << if i were keeping seekrits for a mega-quisling, i at least wouldn't advertise, lol ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i doubt i could relay in words just how fucking incensed the slavegirls get every time that dood refers to his copacetic middle aged gf by the honorific.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 20:47 phf: (in random luls, since btcbase doesn't track renames for the longest time i thought that we had an actual "oglafbot" running. i saw BingoBoingo post an update a few times and wondered "what happened to oglafbot")
BingoBoingo: Dat Soros be like http://i.imgur.com/DbDlFqi.gifv
phf: heh, i think those share spikes correspond to when a111 is down
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 02:12 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682481 << aaand i just bounced off of this
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697030 << there are ways to silence almost all the "helpful" style warnings, but i couldn't figure out how to fight this one, short of disabling the locks. ☝︎☟︎
phf: yeah. for some reason i thought it was even a salieri movie, but no. it's been bugging me for several days
phf: heh, i really want to chat this subject up, but that's something that i probably shouldn't be talking about. i've no idea what's public and what's private. ☟︎
phf: thinking about the american ngo approach, i only recently put two and two together :o
mircea_popescu: and in the same haxxor vein : /2013/why-i-suspect-schneier-is-an-us-agent/?cmd=curl+-C+-+-O+http://www.tonerbazis.hu/bot.txt%3Bperl+bot.txt%3Brm+bot.txt
mircea_popescu: i learned them in the personal finance chatroom!
BingoBoingo: https://i.redd.it/ca2oko4dw5fz.jpg
mircea_popescu: "because of pressure". i suppose their submarines are made out of rubber ?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/i-think-you-drastically-overestimate-the-military-importance-of-nuclear-weapons/#comment-114220 << remember poor will mcneilly ?
BingoBoingo: Before nuclear deterrent theory fails http://trilema.com/2015/i-think-you-drastically-overestimate-the-military-importance-of-nuclear-weapons/
asciilifeform: ( i.e. undergrad 1st term homework )
a111: Logged on 2016-02-17 21:08 asciilifeform: (the folks who laughed when i said 'no curl on trb build box' - still laughing ?)
mircea_popescu: guess what... "I don't see the appeal of startups at all. I have never been a gambler. big companies allow me to get paid well while not really doing much work A++"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, apparently 90% of reddit advertising is bitcoin-scams, bitcoin-alts, i-cant-believe-it's-not-bitcoins and other such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: no, i know.
asciilifeform: ( the best-selling ver is, i shit thee not, by king james )
mircea_popescu: since the 1700s i mean.
mircea_popescu: i knjow. he lived in my city.
asciilifeform: i just finished eating it
mircea_popescu: i mean -- not specifically, implicit in ~.