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ben_vulpes: phf: i miss search quite a bit.
asciilifeform: now, i ~believe~ phf in re poetteringerized sbcl being a rusted chunk of ???
asciilifeform: phf: please consider posting the src.
asciilifeform: phf: aha. when i get back to actual comp, i'll dig
asciilifeform: phf: ick
asciilifeform: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#413 << what exactly uses so much as 1MB, phf ?
adlai: phf: didn't miss it (i read scrollback! or at least, skim...), i thought it was back up
adlai: phf: in other news, i just crashed btcbase.org by clicking search
asciilifeform: not even, as in phf's case, calling exotic gpg-via-ffi crapola
asciilifeform: phf did some very fine work with it.
trinque: phf: offer stands for me to be your court jew of sbcl-ing
phf: from now on i'm working on mp-wp, full time, a shell of a man. you can point newcomers at an old shambling figure, "that's phf. he's tending our flower bed"
asciilifeform: phf: http://ccl.clozure.com
asciilifeform: phf: ever try ccl ?
asciilifeform: phf: i can easily believe this. fwiw my copy is ancient.
asciilifeform: phf: is there a reason you're allergic to sbcl and will try even payware before it ?
asciilifeform: phf: you went straight there from cmucl ?
phf: (i'm using this "fuck you phf, love freenode" to upgrade the btcbase instance, so site is down for half hour or so)
mircea_popescu: phf gotta ghost it
mircea_popescu: phf "for a thousand dollars i make my own hole". who cares what exists in english ? MAKE it. Pizdanutsya = cuntilized or w/e.
mircea_popescu: phf back in her younger days chet held open kitchen for the girls of the neighbourhood + some foster kids ; because she could cook, and wasn't an idiot - which was more than could be said about the respective girls' mothers/grandmothers.
mircea_popescu: thanks phf
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-15: [22:10:50] <phf> asciilifeform: walls and wiring is so janky, there's always something sticking out that you can hook too
asciilifeform: in re: other household chores - ben_vulpes, phf, mircea_popescu - when restoring old lappy batteries, what's yer favourite way to cut through ultrasonic welds in the plastic ?
mircea_popescu: phf shinohai and who else tracked it
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: lemme ask this. Lets say TMSR existed on meatspace island. ben_vulpes mod6 phf asciilifeform are all small business owners. Would you trust exchanging "phsyical btc" with them and only them, or still only in "one shot scenario"?
mircea_popescu: phf i see somebody's been doing some things!
asciilifeform: phf: then keep a (gensym) thing on the server you can call.
asciilifeform: phf and possibly other folks will find v. toth's ~entire www interesting. it is one of these quite educational but at same time mega-depressing 'these people aren't made any moar' affairs.
mircea_popescu: phf the moral being that communities belong enslaved ; and not in control.
Framedragger: phf: ah gotcha, just checked
Framedragger: phf: niice. thanks
Framedragger: phf: aha, bitsavers, noted, thanks! alf's archive.org copy should do just fine.. there's even plain text format, doesn't appear to be garbled
Framedragger: phf: is that spec available online somewhere (or, keywords) by any chance? curious to take a peek at some point.. is it published by symbolics?
asciilifeform: btw phf , can haz schematics ?
asciilifeform: phf: there are two and precisely two kinds of heathen proggy: the kind that's been poetteringized, and the kind that will be.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 02:36 phf: the patches in question, http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot . i actually have no idea how they overlap if at all.
asciilifeform: phf: there is 1 and only 1! pill that cures .
asciilifeform: phf: tell me what means 'being updated'
asciilifeform: phf: how does it 'constantly change' ?
mircea_popescu: phf it'd better be you ; you're younger.
asciilifeform: i had a great b00k as a kid, where the headsman ends up having to chop own head. i wonder if phf or mircea_popescu remember what it was.
asciilifeform: phf: it tries to be git, svn, etc. loads project from www.
BingoBoingo: phf: pls see http://qntra.net/2016/09/us-business-emigration-today-a-special-edition-bayer-roundup-xtend/
mircea_popescu: phf cuz logging as we use it atm is a centralized thing
asciilifeform: phf: there never really were any other kinds of log.
mircea_popescu: phf goals ?
asciilifeform: phf: one day i would like to learn what i might have missed by setting the bozo bit on everything these people so much as sneezed on.
mircea_popescu: phf i'm pretty much null on azn languages myself, and so there's always this exact problem, "oh, idiot brit made up all this shit"
asciilifeform: phf: one of the reasons why this is so difficult to teach is that there are no heroes in it. even someone like deryagin, who was respected for renouncing his polywater thing and sinking own career, was really a case of 'ok i set this fire, and put it out'. but there are no heroes in 'ok i have no great invention, won't even bother saying to anyone, and will happily die in obscurity fixing shoes'
pete_dushenski: phf: aha. and now you're inadvertently making me miss those times when i spent evening after cold winter evening in the depths of buddhist and hindu teachings
pete_dushenski: phf: dogen! i have a collection of his on my shelf here.
asciilifeform: phf: their very careers are predicated on a very loose concept of cause and effect.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [00:25:06] <mircea_popescu> shinohai trinque phf Framedragger any of you wanna get the links autoarchive thing going ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 02:12 phf: i feel like tmsr needs a bard, whatever happened to vexual
mircea_popescu: shinohai trinque phf Framedragger any of you wanna get the links autoarchive thing going ?
adlai: phf: i wot m8?
a111: Logged on 2016-03-31 01:55 phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA via jwz, an old interview with klf after they burned million pounds, for the amusement of #t-a
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [22:03:02] <phf> fire in the opposite directions at the same time
pete_dushenski: phf: 'this nigger hung up pictures of his family everywhere!'
asciilifeform: phf: perhaps you were thinking of the dude who shot a neighbour's flying snoopcam ~with~ a shotgun ?
asciilifeform: phf: that's sorta what a recoilless rifle does.
asciilifeform: phf`: it is quite possible for a bot to sit on >1 server. just needs >1 nick.
deedbot: phf` voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: !!up phf`
asciilifeform: phf's bot looks to be knocked out ?
BingoBoingo: phf: Nah, just some shit I chopped together drunk.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, phf, mod6, trinque, shinohai, BingoBoingo, pete_dushenski etc
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [22:40:57] <phf> pete_dushenski: i'm sure there's a whole bunch of people who'd want to implement url reading, i suspect it's first come first served
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#1058 << i finally grasp what you meant phf ; have a111 read links to btcbase.org ; scriba will read to log.mkj.lt and so on if further ones appear.
mircea_popescu: phf i know, i'm just thorn whether quoted should be case sensitive or not. aanyway, minor point.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:49:09] <phf> proper unicode search (rather than octet matchin, the way it's doing it now) particularly with case-insensitivity takes like 40% performance hit.. so deferring on it for now
mircea_popescu: phf first come hm ?
pete_dushenski: phf: hehe i don't have a bot atm. though by xmas i'll be in better shape to take that on.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:37:23] <trinque> I'm not adding a bunch of retarded state to my bot to be polite to phf's et al
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [21:08:38] <phf> i guess the idea is that you do "$help" and all the bots harass you with pm's of what they can do?
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, phf could a111 read out url titles ? or has mp nixed this function ?
trinque: I'm not adding a bunch of retarded state to my bot to be polite to phf's et al
asciilifeform: trinque: for the sake of argument, it is possible to have 1 prefix that triggers, e.g., phf's bot if the latter is up, and Framedragger's if it is not, etc.
asciilifeform: i like phf's scheme
mircea_popescu: phf you can put "no niggers" signs every 10 paces.
trinque: phf: ?
mircea_popescu: phf yeah i know, buncha fucktards on mom's credit card, elliot wanna-bes.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:35:03] <phf> asciilifeform: sort of nobody cares if you're reach, but there's already been tension between people who are roughing it and people who are doing it in comfort.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:07:19] <phf> i think the goal really is to read paino forte from capacitance. at fortississimo keyboard should start injecting random "fuck" and "motherfucker" into stream as you type
asciilifeform: phf: enlighten me
thestringpuller: phf: Decommodification In order to preserve the spirit of gifting, our community seeks to create social environments that are unmediated by commercial sponsorships
asciilifeform: phf: it was a mindfuck a year or two ago reading about burningman's internal usg camp.
thestringpuller: phf: well when you commodify the experience it goes against the spirit of the thing.
asciilifeform: phf: what means 'overpriced accommodations' in this context ?
thestringpuller: phf: Did you see the raid on that camp at burning man? Shit's gotten crazy there. Inhouse fighting.
asciilifeform: phf: i inadvertently made this the first time i put it together.
asciilifeform: ( phf is prolly trolololling but pointing out for readers. )
asciilifeform: lel phf it is easier to make new one.
asciilifeform: phf: make sure it is not the 100x more common but identically-shaped 'terminal model-m.'
asciilifeform: phf: the hard part is to actually get a hold of a 'model f'. ☟︎
PeterL: phf is there a way to make search on logs non-case sensitive?
asciilifeform: phf: won't work. the capacitative sensing needs ~equal paths.
asciilifeform: phf: i bought the pcb.
mircea_popescu: (notice also, for the sake of stating the obvious - that what glyphs one's monitor displays is a matter of local configuration ; that if one wishes to type ζ and have a certain bot respond with a search that someone is encouraged to look into macros, keybindings, or whatever solution of this problem his locale prefers ; finally that nothing keeps asciilifeform from getting phf to have a111 behave any arbitrary way in #asciil