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a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 23:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882961 -> that's great to hear, thank you! ☝︎
mats: asciilifeform: i used the prev build. after updating to mainline, no issues getting a tx out
BingoBoingo: And there is a general transit strike that coincidently happens to overlap with when transit is shut down anyways.
BingoBoingo: And a bunch of Tienda Inglesa locations are apparently going to be open tomorrow.
BingoBoingo: Update on the Christmas tradition known as "Hay ladrones por Navidad. Ladrones de los barrios pichis van a Pocitos a robar": God damn this place is rural. Two off road style 4-wheelers seen being ridden by kids in the streets and Police tucked away everywhere drinking Mate and dicking around on their cell phones.
asciilifeform: cuz if not, then no surprise that it dun propagate tx, can't propagate if aint talking to peers
asciilifeform: mats: i assume you had most recent mainline trb (i.e. with 'aggression' ) ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 17:13 mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882931 << fwliw i have a 90+% written node-and-tx-hunter with wwwistic frontend etc. but it is currently on shelf, taking back seat to ffa ☝︎
asciilifeform: via BingoBoingo's link, https://archive.is/Q1nHg lulz >> 'Treasury’s website, www.treasury.gov, will not be updated. However, the following areas will continue to receive regular updates: Financial Sanctions, including the Specially Designated Nationals List (SDN List)... "
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 15:54 feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/ << Ossasepia -- A Week in TMSR: 10 - 16 December 2018
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-24#1882923 << these are a delight to read, diana_coman ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-24 09:28 mats: has anyone successfully gotten a trb tx mined in the six months? i have tried several times and not succeeded
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Preparations For The Second Navidad In Uruguay
BingoBoingo playing with less spartan mp-wp, enjoying self and preaparing to share this gift
mircea_popescu: welcome to the argentina event.
mircea_popescu: his assurance is worth diddly, but the fact he has to make it...
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 18:43 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in other http://trilema.com/2016/sad-times-in-the-fiat-empire-apparently-you-cant-give-the-dollar-away-these-days/ news : wire processor informs me that they've a HUGE backlog of usd-to-ourside-reich transfers, and they're barely trickling out.
BingoBoingo: ^ RE the wires thread http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-02#1868952 ☝︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/us-treasury-secretary-issued-sunday-night-press-release-assuring-no-clearance-or-margin-issues/ << Qntra -- US Treasury Secretary Issued Sunday Night Press Release Assuring No "Clearance Or Margin" Issues
diana_coman: ahaha, one of those that changes when you cross the mountains then?
diana_coman: not to mention babalic
mircea_popescu: generally the mempool is pretty homogenous (ie, most nodes report the same tx set), but there's always basic stuff (did you include enough fee ?) and so on.
mircea_popescu: mats you can check by connecting independently to a prb node and checking if it reports it in its mempool.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 05:07 mircea_popescu: why, there's many towns all through asia built on tigdic principles.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775192 << and speaking of this, it occurs in conversation that romanian doesn't end there. any rotaku wish to try and guess what "bilbidic" might be ? ☝︎
trinque: not that it explains why the nodes on the other end didn't relay for you, but there's a lot of layered mystery meat involved.
trinque: eh I think you'll rather want to -addnode republican nodes. -connect is exclusive
mats: i checked my notes, i have had 4 separate tx (with -connect set exclusively to advertised republican nodes) since march fail to be mined, including one this morning. i don't know whether i can determine if they're just not being relayed to the network, or outright being ignored ☟︎
trinque: that much is true. iirc mod6 had a patch in the works.
mats: trinque: i would love to use that, except stock trb doesn't have create/signrawtxn functionality yet
trinque: I've been sending trb txn quite a lot for wallet users, haven't had any recent trouble.
danielpbarron: i have gotten a tx to confirm with trb, but i've also had one ignored
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah that's the idea, for sure
diana_coman: phf, would it be a big bother to get for me the number of words in the logs for the weeks 26Nov-2Dec, 3Dec-9Dec, 10Dec-16Dec 2018? It's more to satisfy my curiosity on whether the relative sizes match the variation in size of my summaries for those weeks or not. ☟︎
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/24/a-week-in-tmsr-10-16-december-2018/ << Ossasepia -- A Week in TMSR: 10 - 16 December 2018 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (next logical step to "oh, i maintain a node" being, obv, "oh, i maintain a !!sendtx".)
trinque: http://161.0.121.250 << feel free to drop one in here to test
mats: to clarify, my trb tx are not apparently being relayed to miners at large
mats: has anyone successfully gotten a trb tx mined in the six months? i have tried several times and not succeeded ☟︎
mircea_popescu: since we're on mp-wp woes : an hero to make mp-wp footnote system NEST would be appreciated. currently works only 1 level deep, maybe once each year or two gotta do lvl2 footnotes by hand.
asciilifeform: lotsa usecases. it's apparently used to calibrate cat scanner & similar machinery.
asciilifeform: it's still imho weird that there's 0 retail channel. (ordinary film can be had by the megatonne, from 9000 places )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea that's what i ended up with on my chalkboard, earlier. will give it a shot the old-fashioned way.
mircea_popescu: or you know, AdvancedMaterials@ashland.com. i'm sure they'll send you some.
asciilifeform: 'fish is what we dunhave over at the fish counter!'
asciilifeform: this kinda thing is normal, sadly, for heavy equipment, but this is the 1st time that i see it for an item in the disposability class of toilet paper
asciilifeform: in largely unrelated lulz, apparently there exists 'radiochromic film', nifty thing with high res and 0 sensitivity to daylight, 0 photochem processing needed, instant photo. but then asciilifeform goes and tries to ~buy~ a pack, and lulz, picture, industrial catalogues with 10,000 items and ~no prices~, apparently thing is distributed entirely 'in wot'
mircea_popescu: that's what they were thinking. all of them, from "cia" down to the last redditard.
mircea_popescu: The woman even challenges him about it, in no uncertain terms : "you suck", she says, "you've got nothing", she says, "and you can't even admit it".
mircea_popescu: Ed Helms, Steve Carell, rando dork, they're all the same guy. lalala can't hear you.
asciilifeform: what was the author thinking ?
asciilifeform: given as good % of the userbase is prolly known to be sitting on nintendos
asciilifeform: it's where the thing dun display on $nintendo, that's puzzling
asciilifeform: nah ~that~ part i think i get
mircea_popescu: THATS WHAT THE NINE STEPS ARE ALL ABOUT -- REFUSE TO LOSE!!!
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how pervasive this http://trilema.com/2017/little-miss-sunshine/ slash http://trilema.com/2016/vacation/ idiocy is.
asciilifeform: fwiw i have nfi what the shitlife authors were smoking; even asciilifeform's www ( and yes incl ~all~ the maffs ! ) displays on even the saddest pnoje
mircea_popescu: basically, it's supposed to be my problem that their shit's broken. because they live in the best possible world and everything else is rape or w/e, "not understanding the concept of bdsm"
asciilifeform: i find it at least a little surprising that popular heathen www dun display on pnoje, but whoknows, the 'state of the art' in wwwistic dysfunction is always 'advancing'
mircea_popescu: no more of that! the new philosophy of http://trilema.com/2016/i-dont-think-you-understand-how-credit-cards-work/#selection-129.0-133.18 smartiepants is http://trilema.com/2015/racists-and-the-racist-idea/#selection-27.0-29.28
asciilifeform: ( and yes it is not difficult to come up with a 'write-only memory' that dun actually give you an openable box, lol )
mircea_popescu: recall how all those old browsers wrote the text out of bounds whenever there was more text than bounds ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 17:22 mircea_popescu: hey, "apple has had a homogenizing and sanitizing effect on '''the internet''' (ie, the special reservation for morons, retards and other debris finding its way the fuck out since 1993)."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the innovation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-22#1882717 consists of the following bit of fighting the patriarchy and checking my privelage : IF their phone is insufficient, THEN reality will be truncated to fit. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: obv 'key' is defined as 'the bits you actually need to get the payload out of the ciphertext', how else
mircea_popescu: nah, there's an iffy point there, "well.. so how does one get message out, guesses the odd bits you happened to use this time ?!" which is directly a rehash of http://trilema.com/2018/so-i-designed-a-block-chipher/ problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why exactly ~is~ it that they 'I can't even read the whole subject line' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, it'sa 'all or nuffin' situation, if you prove 'only odd bits leak', all you gotta do is to make the key 2x long, and the even bits are your nonleaking key, etc
asciilifeform: currently nobody's got even that.
asciilifeform: ( the mega-q, from asciilifeform's pov, is whether it is possible to make a bridge b/w shannon's result and the practical, i.e. to demonstrate a method where key is smaller than payload (i.e. not otp) but where the actual leakage of key bits per N message bits sent, can be ~quantified~ with upper bound. )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile over at the intelligent moron farms, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TvslL/?raw=true
asciilifeform: !#s trapdoor
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, if there's been any movement on that front since 1940s, nobody's talking.
asciilifeform: currently nobody's got algo that doesn't do this (aside from the degenerate case of otp.)
asciilifeform: important not to confound the shannon bit with the practical. sending a dozen rsagrams, for instance, 'leaks' (in the sense where it is not difficult to derive) the public mod; which contains (again, from shannon pov, obv. nobody knows how to extract it trivially) the private.
mircea_popescu: give him some messages you don't care about, is the idea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, the question of what % of the "entropy" leaked was entropic. obviously from chtulhu's pov your message's just as delicious entropy as any other.
mircea_popescu: kinda states differently ye olde "ciphers are not worth having when encryption's available". IF you have rng to piss out, might as well find some primes.
asciilifeform: per shannon, ~all~ methods other than otp (i.e. where key is shorter than payload) 'leak entropy'. the q is just how much, and how to even quantify.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental cost here : EITHER have asymmetric keys, or ELSE leak entropy.
mircea_popescu: i think basically the point here is to summarize what was found. and that's specifically that a) there's no meaningful discussion of "better" or "worse" ciphers worth having when by "cipher" one understands "mixing in 0 entropy".
asciilifeform: the simplest algebraic variant is shamir's split (which trivially nukes 'knownplaintextism'). but it introduces a usable relationship b/w plaintexts, which is The Wrong Thing, and is how i ended up with 'hmm automata?' etc
asciilifeform: it has strong smell of The Right Thing, but i cannot claim to have nailed down precisely how it oughta go, just yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, kinda in the vein of my algo hash thing. but honestly i'd prefer an algebraic form.
mircea_popescu: i guess that makes two of us.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:03 asciilifeform: picture the following 1-dimensional automaton, that eats bitstring in sets of 2bits, and : '10' -> 'tape step left' ; '01' -> 'tape step right' ; '11' -> invert bit at current square; '00' -> terminate.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-14 19:19 asciilifeform: specifically, for every byte you intend to send, you instead send two: x, y. which you generate by obtaining rng byte r, and payload byte b, and x := b xor r, y := r
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 21:45 asciilifeform: anyway for 512bit key, you still keep the 128bit block. but each time you have incoming 128b plaintext, you shamir it rngistically into 512bits, i.e. 4 128b parcels that must be xor'd to reconstitute the original. each of these get ciphered with one of 4 independently-generated 128b keys.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the ciphers : it's the item asciilifeform regularly comes back to, iirc most recently in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-22#1742198 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-14#1613906 , but also we did the luby variant of same, and iirc earliest discussion was the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1589881 thing ( and mircea_popescu's various extensions of subj ) ☝︎☝︎☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-lesbian-in-winter/ << Trilema -- The lesbian in Winter.
mircea_popescu: in other news, there's apparently such a place as humble, texas.
mircea_popescu: afaik it's space before so " ((" rather than simply "(("
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had thread, i suggested several algos for specifically this
mircea_popescu: schedule will then not merely "mix" the P bits but also explain how to separate the R bits out of E.
mircea_popescu: the more i think about this whole serpent business, the more it becomes evident that the ~only~ way to have a cipher (not encryption, ie, asym keys, but enciphering, ie, simmetric keys) stronger than serpent is to ~mix rng bits~. ie, the weakest cipher is the one where len(E) = len(P), and they're all equally week, and 1 serpent worth. to go stronger, you must have something that has len(E) = a len(P) + b sorta thing. the key
trinque: pretty cool lobbes. I don't know that I've heard anyone report yet that it didn't boot for them. I've still got more work to do to make the genesis.vpatch unform across runs.
lobbes is going to be road travelling for the next few days so may not be able to respond to pings right away. However I'll be reading logs and will respond to any pings upon return
lobbes: Btw, here is the vpatch of my second-run >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/genesis_2018_12_22.vpatch. Just to test, I used the 'classic' vdiff in lieu of my keccak vdiffer, but the sig still did not verify for me. Possibly just something I fucked along the way though