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asciilifeform: x61 ( the kind i gave to g_l ) -- yes, had it
asciilifeform: i had nfi there was a x60 with wacom
asciilifeform: waitasec , touch screen ?
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever sat on a working box with anything other than hand-sewn xorg.conf
asciilifeform: can get back the old terms ? or not ?
asciilifeform: 'Pre-loading i915kms.ko/radeonkms.ko disables video output from the point of time these video drivers are attached until interrupt threads are enabled way later. This makes kernel panics during boot undebugable.' << ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: lol not even vga term support anymoar
asciilifeform: and is there a systemd on freebsd yet
asciilifeform: lemme guess, is 'wayland' also on the conveyor.
asciilifeform: ahahahahahaha
asciilifeform: but phf did mention 'butcher cut', i'm curious what the obvious wtfs were
asciilifeform: was more symptom than disease
asciilifeform: and out of curiosity, what else got butchered ?
asciilifeform: phf: did it ever get a working /dev/random back ?
asciilifeform not much interested in post-clangization freebsd; and currently dun have the time, energy to archaeologically unearth a working-on-recent-iron vintage
asciilifeform: aa neato
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
asciilifeform: ( granted , this has not happened in a while. the last major bout was perhaps the boot process itself, which was foolproof on classical pc arch up to late '90s, and then they 'had to' introduce acpiism, 'secure boot', abolition of the mbr, etc )
asciilifeform: if any part of the edifice ever shows any symptom of fully working, they re-fuck it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and could even say 'if it worked, would be merely ugly' but of course just like other microshitisms it never fully works, and is eternal fountain of 'moar studies needed', 'buy the upgrade', 'your iron is obsolete' etc
asciilifeform: or, for instance, take the rathead-microshit Official answer to the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631805 problem : 'device trees' ( https://lwn.net/Articles/560523 and elsewhere. ) essentially same thing as the traditional microshit 'control panel' , but... biosized ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'everything has already been decided in NDA-protected conference rooms' etc
asciilifeform: re acpi as instrument of microshitization, observe how ( e.g. https://lwn.net/Articles/574439 ) it is being put in arm boxes, where 0 intel legacycrapola, and spearheaded by... redhat ( the designated microshit for 'linux' )
asciilifeform: selected gems : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-22#764319 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-26#1145947 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-17#1374233 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1560926 . ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ( pretty much errybody who was in the pc iron business , and wanted to stay in it )
asciilifeform: buncha bootlicks, participated.
asciilifeform: exactly so.
asciilifeform: whole arch as it exists today -- is a microshit production.
asciilifeform: and of course 'standardized' by microshit.
asciilifeform: aaha.
asciilifeform: ^ know why acpi ? so that chip vendors can keep moarshit under nda etc.
asciilifeform: !#s acpi
asciilifeform: the 'fancy' firmware, for instance, that 'does things'. entirely the opposite of the 1980s 'init the iron and get the FUCK out of the way' practice.
asciilifeform: crapola all the way down.
asciilifeform: whole arch was retarded, and born damaged, just about errything you see on top of it, is the top of a series of forced mistakes.
asciilifeform: dunforget 'oh but it improves allthetime!' lul
asciilifeform: asciilifeform has a whole www about this, lol
asciilifeform: no segments, and easily logically 'widened' if anyone had bothered.
asciilifeform: intel was the king of retardation even in the 16b era. e.g. 68k was sane
asciilifeform: and not fixable.
asciilifeform: intel arch was a trisomy from day1
asciilifeform: it's a 'grandmother with balls', could have sane cpu defined in 100pgs of a4, with no 'modes' at all, and no segments, and no idiocy, if intel had not succeeded in killing dec alpha, say
asciilifeform: for one thing, bios crapola typically written in classical 16b real.
asciilifeform: there isn't , on x86olade, a 'longer than 16b regs, no segmentation, but no mpu and bios calls work' mode.
asciilifeform: y'know , bios dun have to be written by tards
asciilifeform: oh those still won't work, in shitware bios
asciilifeform: ( in re 'memory protection' )
asciilifeform: orig item had 0 to do with seekoority, but rather with preventing 1 buggy proggy from taking down whole box
asciilifeform: which item to throw out. i'ma guess whole mpu.
asciilifeform: gotta be moar specific
asciilifeform: it has no meaning outside of it
asciilifeform: the terminology is specific to intel crapola
asciilifeform: ( you do it once and then forget about the page table )
asciilifeform: you can do similar item in amd64 mode tho, 64bits but you map it all to contiguous addr space, like terry davis did.
asciilifeform: cuz intel dropped as a child in 1978
asciilifeform: uh realmode is the classical 16bit segmented one
asciilifeform: ^^
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: brightness knob on post-2007ish lappy is not properly hardwaristic, demands os support, and only happens to work during boot because still in realmode, and biosism works
asciilifeform: supposedly worx on the ones with intel vga
asciilifeform: in place of the 'vendor' thing
asciilifeform: nah, boot knob
asciilifeform: might be also worth a shot
asciilifeform: seems to be mentioned in re 'video.use_native_backlight=1' kernel knob
asciilifeform: hp, recall, had a clitler, whole product line went to shit irrecoverably
asciilifeform: then only cure is sunglasses, lol
asciilifeform: try it
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in some shittops, it was possible to adjust brightness ~during boot init~ with the fkeys
asciilifeform: ( i posted even a patched, with own hand , bios for it, iirc phf uses ; and a kernel conf ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: afaik last portabox where errythingworx is ye olde x60
asciilifeform: worx, tested. cost a buck.
asciilifeform: i have a handy little faraday sack for these
asciilifeform: hightech.
asciilifeform: oh hey was it the randomly and spontaneously self-demagnetizing magickey, like in ro hotels ?
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: what means 'ride bitch' ? sidecar ?
asciilifeform recalls for some reason the schmeisser and stahlhelm in buenos aires junkshop
asciilifeform: ( and to this day kept to it, e.g. NT existed for dec alpha, little endian, but never afaik ppc or sparc, big- )
asciilifeform: it is not imho wholly coincidental that microshit, as early as '80s, proclaimed a fatwa against bigendianism and promised eternal support for littleendian cpu strictly.
asciilifeform: on bigendian -- such idiocy immediately lethal
asciilifeform: 256
asciilifeform: ( on little-endian box, e.g. uint32_t with 'most of the time'-range below 255 will be 'safely' castable to char/uint8_t , and often is... )
asciilifeform: it obstructs in the concealment of c casting bugolade
asciilifeform: also finally found what appears at least on surface to be a knockdown argument ~in favour of bigendianism~ :
asciilifeform: but i see it as really argument against pipelines, not against flags...
asciilifeform spent some time today reading 'risc-v' ( see earlier thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739645 ) proponents' arguments against the carry flag. apparently they're not entirely retarded, flags indeed make pipelineism 10x moarcomplex ☝︎
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
asciilifeform: d00d is pretty good i dare say at askingquestions .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-30#1778218 ☝︎
asciilifeform: great thread, incidentally, on ave1's new www.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: aa! so then yes.
asciilifeform: they had these tables on uni campus, issuing cc to freshmen, etc in 2000s
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i think there was briefly an era of 'easy' creditcard, when given like candy, in bush 1st term. nao gone
asciilifeform: phf: lol!
asciilifeform never saw this, maybe it was in past era
asciilifeform: who, saudi princesses ?
asciilifeform: srsly?!
asciilifeform: pocket will realize it's missing , quickly
asciilifeform: cc is stolen 'cleanly', copied by shop clerks, waiters, no reason to go into pockets