asciilifeform: as it would be a p ?= np proof.

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu has the proof that 'all the same' quite a few folx would be interested to read.

asciilifeform: you can trivially prove that, for crypto break (vs e.g. side chans) enemy must break either a) all of the rsagrams b) all of the hashes

asciilifeform: also eliminates the problem where there is a known relation between adjacent pieces of ciphertext where plaintext is known

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu i had a thought re your http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1722036 algo : instead of one stream generator, have N independent ones (each with own seed, and not necessarily all same hash fn) running in parallel, xor together. every rsagram changes a seed in ONE of these at a time. strength is bought by sending rsagrams moar often ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: it was part of the fiction where 'no we didn't surrender to americans, your rape is a traditional ancient greek, dontchaknow, rape style, nuffin to do with usa'

asciilifeform: i saw a little reportage, it was interestingly the ~exact same spamcarnival as seen prev in usa & elsewhere. oddly ~no homegrown orc scamola .

asciilifeform: plus another where 'Ukraine will be the first country in the world to legalize Bitcoin, Altcoins, Cryptobanks & ICO Trading. Be a part of history! Earn up to 20%...'

asciilifeform: and naturally no koch speech is complete without a 'the web of trust, he feels, is inherently broken. It is only explicable to geeks, and not to all of them, it publishes a global social graph, because signatures on keys imply physical meetings on known dates, and it doesn't scale.'

asciilifeform: '...the timings from the RSA HSM showed that a doubling of the key length increased the time required to sign nearly six-fold, and the time for verification even more. The timings from the Ed25519 HSM were agreeably small (all sub-50ms).' << this is precious

asciilifeform: what's a ccmtacks ?

asciilifeform: gotta be the most frustrating item i've yet attempted here. like climbing a vertical glass wall greased with vaseline.

asciilifeform: we have a different wasp here, no more than half of this size, but one time i personally witnesses the seemingly impossible -- it rose up after stomped on with boot, and flew as if nothing happened

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this too was a 1980s txt ☟︎

asciilifeform: anyway the above was written in a few hrs. and it is not difficult to see why thrown out.

asciilifeform: i dun get why mircea_popescu equates the present situation with a complete lack of the item

asciilifeform: trinque: i won't recommend to take current ffa and put in battlefield . but proposed to calculate a bandwidth assuming current degree of ughslow

asciilifeform: i'd concur with mircea_popescu that one ought not connect ffa to, e.g., icbm, until it comes with proofs for all of the components, etc. -- but we do have a working modexp, from which can extrapolate pessimal speed ( it will get faster, but let's assume for said calculation that it will not )

asciilifeform: a clever buffering scheme would work mircea_popescu-style, by sending otp rngolade during idle pauses in conversation, and thereafter using.

asciilifeform: ( and yes a 0.85s item will have to buffer, and it will feel somewhat like talking to lunar base. so wat. )

asciilifeform: ... it follows that a 0.85sec 4096b modexp is all you need for a reasonable 'rsa phone' item. ☟︎

asciilifeform: btw let's do the phone thing, briefly. a 4096b rsa modexp can carry 4096b , i.e. 512byte, of payload sans padding. let's conservatively suppose that padding ( and hash auth, or whatever, and/or lubyzation, etc ) costs half of the payload room. so you get 256 byte per 4096b modexp;

asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. ) ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: point being, if you have a net made of gsm modems that can throw packets , you do not need a relay through which 'all calls' go - at all

asciilifeform: all it needs is a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687276 ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear to me for what a phone needs a server

asciilifeform: i too would like to meet the d00d who , e.g., wrote nonleaking realtime rsa , made a modem around it, made own FG, etc

asciilifeform: 'In Manupassa’s case, after Dutch authorities seized Ennetcom’s servers they pushed a message out to all of the firm’s phones: if you’re, say, a doctor, lawyer, or other non-criminal user of the devices, please get in touch. No one responded to the message, even though, according to court records, Ennetcom had some 20,000 users.' << sooo precious

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/6Snbe << meanwhile, in the land of the homebrew caesar cipher experts and nsa provocateurs : 'A dizzying number of companies offer these sorts of phones all across the world: Phantom, Global Data, Encrochat, Secure Mobile, PublicPGP, PGPClass, Elite, Fortis Iceland PGP, and many more.'

asciilifeform: 'unity' dun look like a 'can control'

asciilifeform: the derp who 'i am an orc and tinker because what else' and 'i am a phd and tinker because i am god and bow to me, peons' converge to very similar result, sorta like the new world and old world vulture are unrelated birds but look quite alike and have same diet and habits

asciilifeform: re 'why would anyone think to use threads' -- this is not mega-puzzle. naggum described similar situation in the bulldozer essay. imbecile sees an obstacle, reaches for the most obvious available power tool that seems to push aside the obstacle; without giving half a shit what's behind it, woods, swamp, mountain, or where the earth he pushed aside will go, and how it might interact with him later, etc

asciilifeform: aah so 'a qt'