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mircea_popescu: people have a lot of trouble thinking of anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 17:58 asciilifeform: re: cryptoradio, here's a gedankenexperiment: consider a tx station consisting of 2 separated (by, say, a km+ of cable) transmitters; each sends prng soup across a few 100MHz . modulation of payload is strictly via altering their relative ~amplitudes~ .
asciilifeform: in other lulz, the french apparently did almost think of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1733006 a while back, but 'additional signal to help receive normal one' snore, https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01489004/document ( sorry, pdfola ) ☝︎
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2017/11/beachcombing-a-guide/ << The Whet - Beachcombing, A Guide
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-05#1733062 << dood, nevermind charters and bs. a) you still haven't published ~a report~. and it's the 5th. b) http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651459 ! and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714557 !! ☝︎☝︎☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/entomologykos-a-kinda-pseudokynegetikos-it-all-comes-from-ticos/ << Trilema - Entomologykos, a kinda Pseudokynegetikos. It all comes from *ticos.
trinque: didn't say anything other than I don't do anything without a reason
jurov: namely: <a href="/bundle-492667.txt">492667</a> bundle links and the stylesheet
mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721620 lulz : apparently there's a polyamory community on freenode. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why does erica look like a boy
mod6: looks like a ghetto radio shack
asciilifeform: thereby scheme reduces to looking for a truly rngistic signal that at all times is known ~in advance~, but from 2 or more diverging physical directions; and comparing.
asciilifeform: re: cryptoradio, here's a gedankenexperiment: consider a tx station consisting of 2 separated (by, say, a km+ of cable) transmitters; each sends prng soup across a few 100MHz . modulation of payload is strictly via altering their relative ~amplitudes~ . ☟︎
shinohai: What's that a picture of, a fivver developer's meetup?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 16:59 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the bait and switch thing. reddit started life as a sort of 4chan with a jump, ie the little girl's not on the page, but you have to click. this wasn't accidental, because their phase 2 ("growth phase" eh) consisted of the exact value proposition : add your crap to reddit, watch people click on it. once growth stopped they dropped the bait, switched to "we will control the conversation in this ever-so-importan
mircea_popescu: gaussian is a decent "middle of the way" representation ; but not so useful when discussing specifically stuff to the extreme one side.
mircea_popescu: yes it's true that heat in a rod, or whatever diffusion phenomena are relatively smooth in this sense ; nevertheless em is the least smooth of the entire series.
asciilifeform: so subj is really a restatement of asciilifeform's orig q : how does the fox's equip have to differ from the extant.
asciilifeform: 'not using hunter's equipment' still requires a meaningful difference to exist. just as in the case described in old trilema, where some illiterate camel fucker reinvented caesar's cipher ( and unsurprisingly exactly as breakable as if caesar were resurrected and using his , because why not , despite 'not issued by hunter')
mircea_popescu: ie, the very substance of the "fox can be found" argument. yes, if he uses sparkplugs you yourself sold him ; yes, if he lives in a space of gaussian noise ; yes if etc.
mircea_popescu: apeloyee let me take the matter this way : are you familiar with how every "be a graphics artist" software package out there has a coinvolve-with-gaussian "effect" ?
asciilifeform: still passive, he has a triangle of receivers pointing in orthogonal planes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unfortunately noise is not a scalar : enemy can distinguish your transmitter from supernovae, strictly from the fact that the latter happen 'in the sky' and the former -- not
mircea_popescu: or at least get a decent approximation.
asciilifeform: ( admittedly spark plug 'fox hunt' worx great in the otherwise rf-quiet jungle, but would not in a city or anywhere remotely industrialized )
mircea_popescu: apeloyee but this is relevant if you already know there's a signal there
apeloyee: if you have more transmitters than enemy has receivers "in the area" (precise meaning is a legit research q), then you can hide from the enemy, otherwise, you will be eventually found.
asciilifeform: even if it takes, say, a whole minute to move a byte.
asciilifeform: well it's a sport, they use agreed-upon standard item, just like both tennis players get same type of racket, etc
mircea_popescu: apeloyee ammo is always expensive even if free, for a purely ecological reason. you don't want your space too filled with ordnance.
asciilifeform: it isn't a particularly mysterious process.
asciilifeform: incidentally, rf 'fox hunting' is at this point a traditional sport in ru, and the 'fox' is always found . ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in general, the only thing a "find me an em shrubbery" produces reliably are false positives.
mircea_popescu: this is a much more reliable sound-detection with satellite support item
a111: Logged on 2017-11-02 19:50 asciilifeform: at any rate drawing a plot like http://www.oliviamode.com/OliviaView.htm should not be possible for proper item.
mircea_popescu: all sorts of phenomena intercede. clouds is an example, but the point is that "noise floor" is not JUST a floor, but also randomly distributed perturbations, which during a whole day can reach significant amplitudes.
apeloyee: I concede I don't have a good estimate as to the amount of information a fixed location's good for
mircea_popescu: (item got reliably measured because in the 90s they were derping about putting a d-fluorine mw laser on it.)
asciilifeform: apeloyee: transmitter does not have to be a point source
apeloyee: asciilifeform: in one receiver case, one can detect a narrowband transmission using autocorrelation; in case of "aperiodic" whatever, one can detect a spatially fixed transmitter by measuring correlation between signals of two stations. of course, in practice one would need to use many pairs (or a clever algorithm I cannot now think of), and filter known stations
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 14:18 asciilifeform: apeloyee: q was, is it possible to transmit in such a way that for someone without the key, there ~is~ no 'signals received'
asciilifeform: also met a phriend of his, who asked not to be named, who traded 2 bolix 'ivory' cpus for asciilifeform's 1 bolix-3620 .
asciilifeform: ( iirc he was stuck with unpleasant meatspace chores for a long while. )
mircea_popescu: out of their happy interaction, a whole alt-world of no impact and no importance.
mircea_popescu: so... nsa wants to keep in touch with the whatever community, and idle tards of ~same value as a pig their size want to be kept in touch with.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe this turns into a job ? if he gets ensconced neough ?
asciilifeform: there is also quite a bit of fixation, among the aficionados, on the physical process of building the radios, stringing antennae through treetops, and other minutiae.
asciilifeform: as i currently understand, it is a kind of primitive voice-powered usenet group, with the diff that you can get gestapo to pick up spammers
asciilifeform: ( in mega-b00k re 'evil fyoootoor' , 'stand on zanzibar', this process becomes a proper service, for which they charge, and you can get not only firing squad but whatever you like, burning at the stake, guillotine, etc. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: hey it's a pretty effective method -- entire firing squad, 'for free', on call
asciilifeform: ( what whatever reason, convincing police to shoot is a popular suicide method in usaschwitz. rather like it was in orig auschwitz. )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but that's the point, a battlefield where everyone was properly armed hasn't existed since the sabine "war-games" ie let's figure out who impregnates this gang of feverish sluts.
mircea_popescu: i am offering the (sadly unverifiable) proposition here that it is more likely to have your door broken into and your pet shot because "they thought tuttle lived there" a la brasil ; than because you were running a clinton-porn-pirate-radiostation and someone in usg noticed.
mircea_popescu: so, to make it perfectly plain : A. they'll break down "your" door at any point and for no reason because it's not your fucking door and they're not reasonable. B. a forty cent bullet is more effectual countermeasure than ANY amount of thought.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it is altogether likely that HADN'T there been a "hero security guard"/illegal immigrant to try and break in the door, 60 or so useless tards watching a "concert" would still be here sucking down their coca colas.
mircea_popescu: ONLY when some dork tried breaking in the door, ONLY, ABSOLUTELY ONLY when confronted with a hard decision did he start shooting. not before.
mircea_popescu: consider the following point : the recent las vegas shooter had bought a room ; and had ferried a quarter ton of materiel up there ; and then the concert started, and he sat. ☟︎
asciilifeform: apeloyee: q was, is it possible to transmit in such a way that for someone without the key, there ~is~ no 'signals received' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ie, there's a dork doing great seo successes by auto-translating and republishing content.
shinohai: Though taking a drink every time the video buffers is fun. Wheeeeee!
mircea_popescu: isn't it great for a free and open society to enjoy a vigurous academia which, like the brain on the healthy body, encased in its grey old stones, can lead through the bog of nonsense towards that enchanted high plateau of truth and sparkling clean springwater on the side ?
BingoBoingo: Grain fineness is one of those things that scales. If you want good rice start with a few tons rather than pounds.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732711 << of course. back in the z80 days the whole memory could be printed out, wouldn't even take a whole book. more like what today passes for one, ie 40-50 pages' worth. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:12 asciilifeform reads 'tcptrack' manual and bewildered, why is it needed ? what's wrong with ' netstat -a ' ?
trinque: guy who can announce what he does without pissing himself also a plus
a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 19:05 vlad56324: irl i work at a bakery
a111: Logged on 2017-10-26 17:11 mircea_popescu: anyway, there's still an open thread god damned it. so re "in the hope they'll achieve usg agency status" above : the final socialism, usg's "ourdemocracy" came up with a gamified nationalization process : they naturally confiscate the domain leaders in all domains, under the guise of you know, "pension fund investments" and "consumer protection law enforcement". ie, there's a faux money and a faux legal prong which make sure
mircea_popescu: perience tailored to a visitor's taste, using machine learning."
mircea_popescu: and in other tears of modernity, "I was formerly a PhD student at Max Planck Institute for Intelligent Systems, Tübingen, Germany, under the supervision of Bernhard Schölkopf and Stefan Harmeling, where my research focus was image denoising. I have achieved state-of-the-art results using neural networks. I am currently co-founder at TasteHit, a web analytics and personalization startup. We aim to create a unique browsing ex
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732747 << If you have a Minix3 that is too much Minix, that's almost a whole Fedora of Linux ☝︎
asciilifeform: gotta luvv, incidentally, the 'huffman compression' thing. 'we can't decompress because nobody has the table'. except if you had instrumented sticks of ram, that can be read out of band ( i.e. without cooperation of the mobo and its contents , through a second hole ) you could quite easily restore the entire image ( which sections get read , in what order ? concatenate'em. )
BingoBoingo: <vlad56324> what i would like to ask after reading the logs: what is a safe linux distro to use for day to day computing? << Minix 2 is prolly closest
asciilifeform: once you load it into a comp, it is 'hot' again.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/ .
vlad56324: not one that you boot with a live cd w/o internet
vlad56324: so true cold storage should be on a dedicated computer, correct?
vlad56324: that's creepy as fuck. Consider that a couple of years ago i was feeling safe generating paper wallets on a online ubuntu distro
vlad56324: ok and another thing that was really a curiosity after reading the logs
asciilifeform: consider that in the age of 1990s microshit, it was not necessary for a box to have modem at all, to be infected ( just as today )
asciilifeform: it will still be possible to be surprised at 'why is this thing, that i put there, doing $x' . but this is a substantial step above the pig farm where you have a bowl of unattributable slop.
asciilifeform: at the end of the day you should have a box where the question 'why is this on my machine' should never have to be asked
asciilifeform: it isn't a cure but is a treatment.
asciilifeform: take, e.g., the above recipe, and build a box where the only soft is what you put there deliberately, with own hands.
asciilifeform: but none of it is a thing that you can 'download, install, forget' etc without working with own hands
asciilifeform: a few of the folx here use heavily modified gentoo-derived items
asciilifeform: but no there is not a sane distro by any sort of reasonable standard
asciilifeform reads 'tcptrack' manual and bewildered, why is it needed ? what's wrong with ' netstat -a ' ? ☟︎
vlad56324: basically i'm on ubuntu since a lot of time, then after reading i've discovered some useful networking instruments such as tcptrack
vlad56324: what i would like to ask after reading the logs: what is a safe linux distro to use for day to day computing?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a pretty solid command of it lang; if you ask him very politely he might answer something.
vlad56324: irl i work at a bakery ☟︎
asciilifeform: vlad56324: say a bit about yerself while you have the microphone ?
asciilifeform: vlad56324: consider making a key and regging in wot ?
vlad56324: newbie, learning a lot from btcbase logs
asciilifeform: yesterday i learned that there exists a similar subculture in academia as pertains to 'covert radio' ( see 'olivia' thread )
asciilifeform: gotta luvv the 'i have a tall pile of mathemasturbatory squigglies ergo I Fix Bitcoin' school of derpery
ben_vulpes: well there's a whitepaper, that makes it just as good as bitcoin.
asciilifeform: and naturally, 'Chia Network is a San Francisco-based company' 'Chia will be sold to the public next year'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-03#1732583 << to think timis street empty one must come from not such a good life. ☝︎