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mircea_popescu: human industry isn't this activity whereby orc sees field, goes RAAAAAA!!! and runs amuk in it, the results to be tallied later by forensics.
mircea_popescu: ikf you don't start with it, and build on it, you're not working, you're just wasting everyone's time, yours first and foremost.
mircea_popescu: reporting is THE CORE of real work. not some bullshit side part. THE CORE.
mircea_popescu: eh, bs. reporting isn't some sort of chore that's to be shoved in the wasted hours, after "real work" was done.
mircea_popescu: then what, exactly, is the substance of your complain ?
mircea_popescu: not like i;m sitting here on a pile of gold an' coin amassed through exploiting phf, mod6 an; poor little old you but won' tsplit the loot.
mircea_popescu: get your ass in the fucking hustle rather than whining to me about how poor you are.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is there a bent nickle you made that i kept from you or something ?
mircea_popescu: holy hell look at that, just as soon as getting the fuck alligned to reality is in discussion, what ignatius wanna do is resurrect greenspan. what the fuck nonsense is this.
mircea_popescu: just finished feeding one earlier today, pretty little thing.
mircea_popescu: if the idea here is, "show mp a good time", the average daily budget of the yurpean burlesque show attraction, a well built girl in her 20s, is <20 euros.
mircea_popescu: this is not a workable model. i won't even call it "business model", it has 0 to do with business.
mircea_popescu apologizes to ppls for his in and out shenanigans. hopefully fixed now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it does not count. because it is ~retrospective~. this is how rocks communicate, "i can't speak for other hunks, but so far i hurtled three miles downhill"
mircea_popescu: i dunno, atm im figuring some time and a re-read is the only ticket.
mircea_popescu: the core of that article is trinque 's lament, not your feelings as to the world and your adequacy in it. the man has a point -- large and round and not something we can afford to ignore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, try and think about the actual problem being discussed, rather than some simpler problem you feel more at ease with and everyone else should be retarded enough to permit the replacement with.
mircea_popescu: spyked, i have no stylistical qualms, it's just an example of phisiology. use whatever works best, sure.
mircea_popescu: this "here i sit, my eyes intelligent, my expression absent" situation's for the birds.
mircea_popescu: or alternatively, there's all sorta greatness, phf has a perfectly workable code metadiscussion system on btcbase, jurov had a ver yworkable one for earlier trb work and so fucking on.
mircea_popescu: because it occurs to me that ~if~ you publish your codebase you're working on, and if your blog works correctly in the mp-wp sense, then therefore you get all this for free, just make a metapost.
mircea_popescu: and so some other guy can go "that nfi part is just a discussion of so and so, like this" and so on ?
mircea_popescu: can you do this in some manner ? so people can follow your work if they can be arsed to import the same ide / cms ? (here, it's a bit of js, and a browser, that entire stack)
mircea_popescu: how do you work, do you have this codepile loaded up in some sort of management interface ? does it permit adnotation ?
mircea_popescu: you also can publish on your own fucking schedule, just don't hang yourself in your own petard.
mircea_popescu: there's no rule you must publish the signed thing. you can publish 11 drafts before signing, what of it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman, more practically, are we running cuntoo latest or what is the situation there ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: responsibility is a fine and great thing indeed ; but it's not mechanizable, as part and parcel of why we have a wot as it is rather than as the lulzentreprise everyone else imagines it to be.
mircea_popescu: there's this lengthy list of examples of people coming to grief through the process of "that mp so dumb, dun even know how to horseride a shirt" or w/e such.
mircea_popescu: this pov is even voiced, but always in a chiding tone in training environments. it has its place there, but i dunno how practicable it is in the general.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose in a very theoretical, idealized sense. in practice however... what are we to conclude on the basis of
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884426 ? that neither i (nor anyone else here for that matter) had diffraction loaded in head ? the wave model of energy ? what exactly ?
☝︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this is like slavegirl saying "i don;'t understand why not ask detailedly for tongue movements and assorted shenanigans". she gets punished if jher bj is subpar because i don't have the fucking patience to micromanage blowjobs. it'd be like writing the book im about to read, if i wrote it what sorta discovery is this!
mircea_popescu: in any case the "i am of the republic, i will now base my self worth on the qty and amt of loading-in-head my works get" is, as of yet, a recipe for eternal sadness. this is a new rather than old republic.
mircea_popescu: but... what can you do. it's a crapshoot, you know this going in.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i would also like people to do more loading-into-head of whatever their native language is, so i could get better movies, music lyrics and music videos, books, blog articles and everything else.
mircea_popescu: and this paroxistic-avoidant approach worries me universally, phf is stuck in the exact same rut, for instance. i have never in my life seen this approach to things work. not once, not FUCKING ONCE, and this is all the more indicative as it's one of the most commonly deployed broken strategies.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rather than in the normal, and correct manner in which things are discussed, as they are noticed, to get to their bottom, which is then gotten to and marked as such and things move on, with the bottom in question an ever-reliable reference always at the ready for having been correctly found, and always visible just under the skin of things, for having been correctly found.
mircea_popescu: what worries me is this approach whereby a) things tend to be discussed in response to some kind of prodding, and b) while that feeling lasts, only to c) fall back into an eerie silence within a few hours or maybe days, for WEEKS AND WEEKS AND MONTHS AND YEARS AT A TIME!!!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: whereas usg.blue reads not-at-all, never ever no matter what ; and usg.red reads always-aforehand. both of these idiocies, equally idiotic as they find themselves, are therefore always found in some uneasy truce. but you can't properly notate "read on 2nd pass" as "didn't read" or "won't read".
mircea_popescu: because the republic's a practice, not a "narrative" aka daydream. fundamentally, what distinguishes us from the github hipster / foss moron / entire collected pile of avortons looking for their abortion from "the bay area" & portland to
eudemocracia and beyond is that we don't read on the first pass, BUT ON THE SEC
mircea_popescu: this is exactly cosubstantial with the
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919401 inquiry : "reading everything aforehand" as a strategy is just as dysfunctional as any other idealism aka premature optimization. there's a fucking reason republican doctrine is "do it by hand first, automate later, and those parts that actually need it and benefit from it, rather than randomly and abstractly like the pantsuit do".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: as i sit here now, there's things around me i've never read. serial numbers on smoke detectors, handling and caring labels on rugs, brand names on plaster and wall insulation facing inside, towards the wall. i am not about to tear the place apart to read all possible strings around me. i might, ~if need be~, of course. but not before.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing with this reading business : most things are read on the second pass.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: one somethong to do with trinque 's unhapiness with the cuntoo userbase ; the other something to do with wtf to do re v & portage/ebuilds.
mircea_popescu to bed. but ima try to be on tomorro (tho prolly on the viaje nick) because it seems to me there's two different layers of unhapiness preventing cuntoo from making meaningful progress, neither of which properly gotten to the bottom of.
mircea_popescu: this isn't because "we're building housing for the sort of braindead morons who literally can not avoid walking into fire", but because "holy shit, spending life avoiding spurious pitfalls is such a sad way to go about things".
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919297 << there's an immense difference between usability and nurturing idiocy. yes, "not walking into open flame" is basic test of cns functionality ; nevertheless patterns of bursting flames on timers are found in video game platformers, not in between one's bedroom and bathroom.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: now, if you wish for your takeaway from this to be "hanbot is not cool enough to run cuntoo" that's your priviledge, but i tell you i don't see the wisdom. for the same money you could say you never read the damned scripts, and butress the claim on eg
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-06#1893199 ☝︎ mircea_popescu: hewhet.net/2019/03/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-iv/ spanning a coupla months.
mircea_popescu: you don't mean "pls try again" as in, issue command again ? as opposed to "put !!v strings in again" ? do you ?
mircea_popescu: whereas if we decide we dislike the "packages" abstraction (and not merely dislike it a little bit, but quite a lot, enough to justify a lot of rewriting) then the available solution's to just make one big v tree. coming with the obvious problem that if indeed the whole world's just one tree, then trying to play BOTH duke nukem AND warcraft 2 will result in two copies of the kernel compiled, like if we were idiots.
mircea_popescu: in this context then, if we decide we like the "packages" abstraction, for whatever reason, the obvious solution would be to maintain ebuilds of various vtrees as packages, and emerge them into a desired pile together.
mircea_popescu: whereas implicit v-ism would be "all code is made one pile, then built once and linked, and that's it".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suppose the one true break here, is that portage system actually excepts to build and link by bits. "out of the codemass intended to be used, arbitrarily selected portion A is built and linked first, producing object files, then B is built and linked against those binaries"
mircea_popescu: well, in gentoo world. in tmsr world, what orchestrates that is v.
mircea_popescu: well, wouldn't this be better than just moving everything over to portage ?
mircea_popescu: so is rather the problem that v-tron doesn't come with the right toolkit ? should get a tar and an interface for make ?
mircea_popescu: at the very rock bottom of this : the ~deal~ of portage is that it installs things for you without you necessarily understanding why. this is the pay-off, yes, "you don't have to be concerned with every little detail" or however it goes. and the cost for this is, that you don't get to understand how it installs things for you. because ultimately, you don't, whether you want to or not entirely immaterial, ungermane an' spur
mircea_popescu: i mean, maybe all local wot failed to sign a patch portage deemed essential so it downloaded it from power-rangers.net. yes ?