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diana_coman: trinque, I'll add it to the list; what should I pack and send exactly, once it's done?
a111: Logged on 2014-10-10 00:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot << chuck moore (of 'forth' fame) seems kinda in favour of this. as am i. a kind of 'environmentalism' i've been advocating for many years (intellectual pollution doesn't blacken mere lungs. it makes everybody - stupider. measurably.)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 21:34 asciilifeform: imagine if programmers actually had to answer for their pollutants.
asciilifeform: but with imaginary bulldozer, many succumbed to 'hey what could it cost'
asciilifeform: grr can't find in o(1). but the unifying thread is, when tools of the 'soft' variety appears, all sortsa folx, not even necessarily stupid, became afflicted with the erroneous notion that they have '0 cost' because coad dun have mass and can be cribbed gratis
a111: Logged on 2015-09-02 22:09 mircea_popescu: there is clearly a problem here. ideal objects (such as software) are not comensurate with physical objects. this attempt to "engineer programs like screws" was a reasonable first hack at the novel an dunexpected problem,
asciilifeform: was in the http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-02#1260148 flavour ☝︎
asciilifeform: it was 'put to yourself the question' but in ro iirc
asciilifeform: hm where was that mircea_popescu piece re the magick furniture.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( they come in 9000 variant )
asciilifeform: you dun have those rubber-coated haemostats ?
mircea_popescu: no way, you're liable to tear skin with that thing.
asciilifeform: ( dun errybody own bag of classic surgical toolz ?? )
asciilifeform: i thought that's what haemostat is for!111
mircea_popescu: im telling you, it's for augmented pinching
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in asciilifeform's planet vise-grip is used for exactly 1 thing ( when working on ancient auto engine, to clamp the old dead hood lift piston in place... )
asciilifeform: also unlike e.g. rms, asciilifeform even washes, even tho washing dun even directly bake any ffa...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's the perfect tool for ONE job, as my recent header illustrates.
mircea_popescu: "i can't do any ffa work because i'm working on a manner in which to do it that wouldn't produce the idle inquiry of loc 6 months in"
asciilifeform: 'the wrong tool for erry job'(tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: this "structured data" argument is good enough in the general, but consider what it'd have cost you to actually have all that pre-structured, rather than bash-prototype
a111: Logged on 2019-01-29 17:34 asciilifeform: comments ( grep -P '^\s*--' ) turn out to be 1835 ln in libffa and 390 in ffacalc.
asciilifeform: arguably there was 'perlism' prior to perl, just as there was surely alcoholism prior to cheap gin.
asciilifeform: 'get to rock bottom' faster.
asciilifeform at one pt actually ~was~ 1 of the people naggum wrote about, who 'reached for perl like goebbels for pistol when heard word 'culture'' . then one day realized what it was doing to his brain and ~quit~ , like BingoBoingo quit drink, and never touched since
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 22:13 mircea_popescu: much unlike naggum's mythical perl, doods sit around doing nothing all day with their reward circuitry so blownout, they literally fail to understand that no, "your message was too long" is an inacceptable reaction to the situation where "my phone is uselessly broken"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892453 << today 'mythical', but in '98 or when it was he wrote , was in fact troo specifically starring perl. (today other crapola, and moar fragmented so not immediately pointable to as 'hey, perl' ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: inwashes people, destroying their value systems and their trust in their own understanding and appreciation of the world they live in, but if you're very good at it, you can create a new world for them in which all of this makes sense.
mircea_popescu: "a person's behavior is shaped by the rewards and the punishment he has received while not thinking about his own actions. few people habitually engage in the introspection necessary to break out of this "social programming" or decide to ignore the signals that other people send them, so this is a powerful mechanism for programming the unthinking masses. rewarding idiotic behavior and punishing smart behavior effectively bra
mircea_popescu: much unlike naggum's mythical perl, doods sit around doing nothing all day with their reward circuitry so blownout, they literally fail to understand that no, "your message was too long" is an inacceptable reaction to the situation where "my phone is uselessly broken" ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is remarkably fucking true about, you've guessed it, ~social media~.
mircea_popescu: ing the programmer with a very strong sense of control and accomplishment that a perl programmer does _not_ try something else."
mircea_popescu: can be very hard: the perl programmer is very good at solving his own problems and assure you that he's on the right track -- he looks like any other programmer who is stuck, and this happens to all of us, but the perl programmer is very different in one crucial capacity: the tool is causing the problems, and unlike other programmers who discover the cause of the problem sooner or later and try something else, perl is reward
mircea_popescu: equiring more perl -- the perl programmer who veers off the road into the forest will get out of his car and cut down each and every tree that blocks his progress, then drive a few meters and repeat the whole process. whether he gets where he wanted to go or not is immaterial -- a perl programmer will happily keep moving forward and look busy. getting a perl programmer back on the road is a managerial responsibility, and it ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "most people, when faced with a problem, will not investigate the cause of the problem, but will instead want to solve it because the problem is actually in the way of something more important than figuring out why something suddenly got in their way out of nowhere. if you are a programmer, you may reach for perl at this point, and perl can remove your problem. happy, you go on, but find another problem blocking your way, r ☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ << turns out i already had. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:59 mircea_popescu: im sure eg spyked would love ot give it a gander -- maybe he thereby learns asm and becomes as smart as ave1 for one, and maybe it helps his adalisp for the other.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892309 <-- funfact: /me reads plenty of asm on his saecular assignments, mostly to maintain & debug shit software stacks that crash in weird ways. haven't written any asm in a while tho, and dos asm especially has been a challenge last time I looked at it ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892345 <-- neato! I'll give this a reread myself ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892247 << see how comms trip you up ? had you ~said~ this much i'd have said very different things, because i entirely don't see the problem with a cl blogotron.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892289 <-- post updated with some more context re. lisp blogotron http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html#selection-177.0-179.1 the scope might still prolly not be 100% clear, it seems to require a separate post ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:48 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892244 << manual how ? i have a script somewhere doing it for trilema, want me to dig it out ?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892287 <-- yes pl0x, it would be much help. my biggest issue atm is having to do manual greps after <link rel="pingback" href="..." />, haven't been able yet to get something reliable that doesn't require parsing html ☝︎
asciilifeform: presumably not so seekrit that it being perma-hosted by usg loc blows it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but what if there's some secret sauce in there!
mircea_popescu: hahaha there's some of that isn't there.
asciilifeform: i dun presume that errybody oughta burn cycles to post erry possible oldies. but mircea_popescu's i simply happen to like.
hanbot: inb4 this becomes the "whisperers" thread all over again
mircea_popescu: well, let's put it this way : no later than at the chestnut tree cafe i shall.
asciilifeform: i'ma eat these if/when mircea_popescu bothers to dig'em up.
mircea_popescu: and so on. wtf, i can't dedicate my life to documenting my past life because then who's gonna produce the future.
mircea_popescu: and then when he gets to romanian he's gonna want fain backups, and conceivably, wtf was http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22dtng%22 and also, that one time when i sat down to read my collection of pif, what was in those large year-bound things, and could i perhaps dig up the "casino" roulette thing i made by hand to get all the other kids's turbo chewing gum "surprise" dollars, dms an' turk lyrasi
asciilifeform: i'ma deliberately not eat moar until i catch up with chores this wk, but otherwise yes
mircea_popescu: and then if i were to leak eg http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Se2eN/?raw=true ie, historical forum bits of travels ~as thery happened~ alf's gonna also want that and so on.
asciilifeform: most of the a.org links lead to null
asciilifeform: sad thing is that most of'em never got snapshotted.
mircea_popescu: feel free to quote it at them, why not.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu had these ultra-compact pieces that i suspect would penetrate the biofilm of all sortsa thick heathens today, if they were still on the main pg
mircea_popescu: and all that.
mircea_popescu: "You will lose the right to bear arms, not because they hate you, but because you aren't worth it, and you will lose the right to speak freely, not because they're affraid of it, but because you wouldn't know what to do with it if you had it. "
mircea_popescu: not even that bad, huh.
asciilifeform: 'They're sucking the blood out of the fiction, at 3$ an hour, and there wasn't enough fiction to go around to begin with. And since you are paying today for tomorrow's fiction, darn straight you want your rightful slice of it. '
asciilifeform also liked https://archive.is/B9jL1 , with the heat engine.
mircea_popescu: i must say, it's pretty weird to read 13year old stuff and not find something to object to.
asciilifeform: they oughta try mars, i hear pretty stable.
mircea_popescu: because ultimately... leads to instability.
asciilifeform: iirc it got renamed to 'climate instability', nao airtight
mircea_popescu: btw, how's global warming been faring with the mini freeze they got last week ?
asciilifeform: in other lulz, swampistan went from -16 to +16 c in <day .
asciilifeform: it is, highly a++ recc'd to anybody who still finds himself tending heathens
asciilifeform: yea tending heathens with headset, meanwhile primordial trilema..
mircea_popescu: win-win as they say.
asciilifeform: i managed to fit it into timeslot of a meat chore, ftr!111
mircea_popescu: i guess ima put this in the report, "lost cto to binge reading ancient html site" ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not noose, but i simply like the flavour. just read 'guide to psychopathic rape', for instance, a+++
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not like the femstate's bankruptcy were discovered last tuesday.
asciilifeform: re ancient-mircea_popescu thrd : https://archive.is/pMyw2 << also pretty interesting.
asciilifeform was aboutta say 'hah, i threw out my last i686' but turns out nope, here's 1 runnin' still
hanbot: kk. scheduled for tomorrow evening.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot pick a laptop, bake the man's cuntoo. (principal issue, that gentoo->cuntoo "bridge", see if his sig matches).
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892053 << there's an hp clunker willing to guineapig, but it's an i686, will that do? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:24 diana_coman: trinque, it's possibly best to run your latest script and then hand over everything you need, fresh and clear? not a big issue otherwise to rummage and pack that dir but I don't even recall if I did not touch it further after that point when I sent the genesis patch so I'd rather not introduce artefacts
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892055 << entirely sensible to rerun, sounds good. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Implementing muLisp for the Intel 8086 was more challenging because the 1-megabyte address space was segmented into 64-kilobyte segments. The MS-DOS operating system reserved 360 kilobytes of that address space for its purposes, leaving 640 kilobytes for implementing and using muLisp. Awkward segmented architecture is becoming less common as memory costs decline. However, techniques for overcoming the limitations of short pointers a
asciilifeform: to round off stoutemyer item , http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kXgko/?raw=true << ocr txt from same.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 13:57 mircea_popescu: exactly the same substance as the "artwork" basis of http://maddox.xmission.com/irule_.html
asciilifeform: i like the formatting also.
mircea_popescu: kinda goes for the whole thing, tbh.
mircea_popescu: though perhaps there's a lead.
mircea_popescu: there's this place we visited then, that can not be found now anymore.
mircea_popescu: imagine you, they have!
asciilifeform: i dun imagine the colibri & ocelots changed much since then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it grew to at some point include a forum also, and i put a buncha cr pics from first trip there, which was teh ~only reason i considered over the years digging up archives, but was too lazy.
asciilifeform: back when asciilifeform was spending his days putting robot arm through glass doors etc ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: lmao. back when hanbot was chitlins and things ?
hanbot: spyked: (snip) <-- for some reason, I took zenofeller to be a proto-trilema. I archived some of the posts, I think some of them can still be dug via archive.org << oh sweet, i'ma happily wade knee-deep in these again awhile.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr i quite like the ancient pre-trilema, if you still have whole thing somewhere would be pretty great to read it off proper www, rather than usg's archive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you think $item is at level of 'amateurship', dun put in
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892248 << 1st i hear of the name, seems to be at least coupla diff people. tho dug up a https://archive.is/WnZJY , which reads almost trilema-like...