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mircea_popescu: there is nothing that the usg has ever done or could ever do that has even the faintest whiff of permanence. not one thing.

mircea_popescu: just like every single last schmuck working for the usg must know that one day we will hang him for ~THAT~ crime, just so every schmuck fucking around with "bitcoiin development" must know that one day, his efforts will be undone and we revert.

asciilifeform: gotta admit, usg switching to funding tx spam with stolen coin, rather than giving it at mega-discount to mircea_popescu et al, was a less-retarded-than-usual move ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202562 << admitting that the entire point of the usg is to prevent fun. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: what i gathered from what you were saying yest was that they contain an actual spendable tx that will be accepted as input for future txn by future usg clients, thus forking off the legitimate network

asciilifeform: skorjanc, usg claims, was ratted out by a stoolie

decimation: http://spacecoastdaily.com/2015/07/blastoff-atlas-v-successfully-launched-from-cape-canaveral-air-force-station/ < usg manages to lauch another gps satellite

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202458 << usg sop. consider, if they did not proclaim to have found 'quality dope', might have to let him go ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ usg training drills for cw2

asciilifeform: like any industrial-strength chumpamatic, usg-history typically leads you to 'conclude'... the very premises of the syllogism behind the conclusions.

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: when you build mental world out of usg's 'legos', don't be surprised if you find yourself reaching their 'recommended' conclusions.

asciilifeform: building new things on it? even if usg were not getting in the way? not so appealing imho

asciilifeform: a local scrap dealer i will not presently name, sells retired usg contractors' boxes, often with whole shebang still in.

ag3nt_zer0: "adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form" << via buterin's waterfall?

asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it wasn't especially viable then. and after adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form, i can't think of who might voluntarily work with such a thing today

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op << My impression is BitPay is under such constraints because born insufficiently USG, now merely avoiding a Shreming

asciilifeform: i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op

decimation: also they would very likely summon usg

mircea_popescu: "ideology" ? yeah, that's right : usg's fucking ideology.

mircea_popescu: and the infortmation of WHO READS IT is not usg's business.

ascii_field: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/03/11/why-did-victims-in-islamic-state-beheading-videos-look-so-calm-they-didnt-know-it-was-real << usg's canned response to ^

decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1199899 < the majority of these blacks are actually 'spending' usg's money ☝︎

ascii_field: for all we know, usg just finished installing 900Mhz intercept network and now is banking on 'streisand effect' to get us to use it.

ascii_field: punkman: not like usg considers the question 'is this trivial to make' before they gag

ascii_field: pretty snoreworthy idea, but apparently hamhandedly desaparecido by usg

ascii_modem: back to the mexican fella - in a very important sense he is more dependent on usg staying in business than a u.s. post office director

mircea_popescu: by the time "systemd" is a word, usg-as-nsa is no longer.

ascii_modem: usg hasnt given a fuk re conquest in the normal sense of the word since war with spain.

decimation: so it would indirectly funded by usg at best

decimation: usg's classic move is to pay $mil to contractor to tell it how it sucks, and then do nothing with the results

decimation: heh apparently usg paid its think tank to identify the top open source projects that 'need security investments' https://github.com/linuxfoundation/cii-census/blob/master/results.csv

ascii_modem: gabriel_laddel: usg claims earth and all of known unviverse

mircea_popescu: i guess as the flesh sears under the hot tongs, "high ranking" usg employees will scream how people "willingly paid taxes"

decimation: about 80% of usg depends on these kinds of 'willingly' gotchas

ascii_modem: will be with usg ads!

ascii_modem: both the money and the meat - countereconomic voodoo creations of usg

decimation: farm? also usg

ascii_modem: hotdog stand in podunk? usg, yes

ascii_modem: its all usg

decimation: usg or 'big 4'

mircea_popescu: that's a major point incidentally. we'll have to make our own crypto oscars, this usg situation is untenable

ascii_modem: 2) just about 'anyone who's anyone' in that entire subdiscipline is a usg career

decimation: mircea_popescu: I buy your political reasons, but aes was the 'winner' of a fairly large and open 'competition' and was then recommended by usg. How is that 'coming out of nowhere'?

decimation: it's been well covered in the us media that walmart 'arbitrages' usg benefits/slaves into profit

mircea_popescu: fucking hell, having usg-ssh imported into bitcoin wasn't bad enough

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196623 << just like there exists a class of innocent nazi ministers, and nice soviet officials, and respectable usg civil servants and so on. THEORETICALLY. in practice, no. ☝︎

asciilifeform: if cheap autonomous flying machines haven't reignited usg interest in geographically-selected gps jamming, nothing will

decimation: usg can no longer employ/manage to keep the thing running

asciilifeform: (if anyone remembers the old eu/galileo thread, where usg pissed and moaned about not being given root on galileo)

asciilifeform: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp50/primary-frequency-standards.cfm << illustration for n00bs, of usg's cesium fountain

decimation: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datum-Symmetricom-BC635PCI-U-PCI-Time-and-Frequency-Card-BC635PCI-QTY-Avail-/161733020476 < for folks wishing to create their own usg-free ntp server

asciilifeform: i have wanted that thing for years. but i;m not paying usg 500 for a book

decimation: because now even the little kids growing up today will know what they are signing up for if they work for usg

decimation: actually I predict this event will mark a turning point for usg

mircea_popescu: all i see here is, the usg is no longer a virgin. today, china raped them and they thanked it for the service.

asciilifeform: so when i worked in an army lab, it was 1 actual usg 'green badge' for 25-30 'purples'

asciilifeform: decimation: there is an official usg fiction that dirt lifted from 'airbus' isn't passed straight to 'boeing', etc

assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 08:41:10; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one?

ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=34&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQtwIwAzge&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F58004844&ei=pLyeVcuAEcm2ogSx-5rgBg&usg=AFQjCNH_j-TsYTnEvRDHiEZH3WbYMAwywg&sig2=JNwKq1S17c8cSu5k9ZR6sA&bvm=bv.96952980,d.cGU

decimation: you set rtc, usg doesn't set your clock?

asciilifeform: so in that sense it is 'usg institution' in exactly the way my house, and my earthly carcass, are

jurov: and i keep telling you they already do cuz internet *is* usg institution

asciilifeform: i believe that it is wrong for a large network of bitcoin nodes to depend on a usg institution.

jurov: what is usg to do? risk diddling time on throngs of linux/windows machines?

assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:59:04; asciilifeform: and this kind of dull, mechanistic diddlage is precisely what usg specializes in

jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one? ☝︎☟︎☟︎

assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 02:13:37; asciilifeform: the coasts are where usg hands out payola.

mircea_popescu: decimation: what usg agency would perform this work domestically? asciilifeform:at&t. << top kek

asciilifeform: i'll bite. what else will perma-wedge if usg clock moves 2h into the past for a day ?

assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 03:18:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194158 << bitcoin actually has enough power structure to enforce a uniform rejection of usg leap second.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194577 << if mircea_popescu has figured out how to 'reject usg time', i'm all ears. ☝︎

decimation: wait, to be anti-leap second is to be pro-'usg controls time'

assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:17:38; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193950 << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194158 << bitcoin actually has enough power structure to enforce a uniform rejection of usg leap second. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: the coasts are where usg hands out payola. ☟︎

asciilifeform: my point is that this kind of attack is not only the kind of thing usg specializes in, but pretty much the only thing they know how to do at all

decimation: and 'fucking with bitcoin' is probably pretty low on usg's hitlist (not that it should be so low)

decimation: what usg agency would perform this work domestically?

asciilifeform: and this kind of dull, mechanistic diddlage is precisely what usg specializes in ☟︎

decimation: if usg starts messing with gps it would be quickly noticed and shouted at

decimation: but that usg clock is depended on by and awful lot of shit

decimation: most ntp nodes are tracable to some source (yes often usg) to two layers

decimation: and usg fucking with the way computers distribute time would ultimately be noticed by some innocent bystander

decimation: usg didn't make this policy any more than england did

asciilifeform: (yes, decimation will teach you to tell epoch time within +/1 1000 by using the stars and moon. that does not change the essence of the fact that global epoch synchronized by machines is a fiat - specifically usg - creature)

BingoBoingo: Leapweek would purely put USG time in the realm of clearly fiat time

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what << How often? A minute over a century and ignoring should be fine

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193950 << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: a matter of conventional agreementr, currently overseen by exactly usg.

ascii_field: if usg wants to spend its coin this way, it can

ascii_field: just as usg turned their orbital nuke dropper into 'space shuttle'

ascii_field: well, afaik the 'precise' is not publicly known. but the ancient rumour that was taught to me was that it was a usg military propaganda trick

decimation: if usg can spam uv over a large area for hours, then you probably have bigger problems than money

decimation: in fact, someone who depises 'astronomical time' in favor of cesium time is also fully in favor of 'usg time'

ascii_field: but only launders usg money

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: usg was a major client

mircea_popescu: you will notice it is not actually a usg contractor. it's a sudanese contractor.

ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it isn't 'greatest leak ever' - but certainly the most complete gutting of a usg contractor in history

mircea_popescu: they are the exact equivalent of materiel. the humvees the usg lost to isis work for isis just as well.