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thestringpuller: if they rip out OpenSSL for libsecp256k1 won't this cause undeterministic behavior in signature checking? Or does the "comooniteee" just want to not check signatures anymore?
asciilifeform: don't expect ~sane~ crypto out of the leprosorium
mircea_popescu: "this bag is as heavy as that car. we don't know whether that car is just a cardboard cutout or what, but hey, provedly heavy bag! !1"
mircea_popescu: dude speaking of "provability" bs. FSB are "provably secure" because it can be proven they're at least as hard as regular syndrome decoding. which is np complete. while we don't actually know if THAT is in fact resolvable in polynomial time or not, nevertheless... PROVEDLY SECURE!!11 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now doesn't want to go into jacuzzi.
mircea_popescu: re BingoBoingo 's https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/808993/4006420 << check out the ugly head of puritanism rearing its head yet again. "if i don't enjoy anything in the world i will surely be spared doom!!1". nothing's quite as resilient as idiocy. ☟︎
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381103 << seems like everybody who doesn't lurk in #crypto-crackpots missed the joke ☝︎
punkman: I didn't even dare suggest adding it of course!
punkman: and if prb had sane logging we wouldn't be having this discussion
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 22:16:42; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380266 << yes! and you can almost ~define~ 'sane system' this way. with the caveat that it can't be a non-orthogonal fudge like a program consisting of one line 'start_bitcoind()' nor anything in that spirit. ORTHOGONAL operators.
mircea_popescu: punkman only if "standard format" doesn't expand at pre-compile time into "here's a debalanced tree of 547657698 "standards""
asciilifeform: but unix doesn't give us a rpc-thing that doesn't suck
mircea_popescu: i do but i don't recall why i wasn't so hot about that.
mircea_popescu: punkman certainly a worthy attempt, even if mod6 prolly won't be able to put it in current release.
asciilifeform: we aren't trying to minimize patch-line-counts AS SUCH
mircea_popescu: didn't he end up basically rewriting sendmail because sendmail sucked ?
asciilifeform: one way to look at it is that he isn't much more of a 'free man' than, e.g., i am
asciilifeform: just like you don't become a famous small arms designer by refining the kalash
asciilifeform: problem is that one doesn't get to 'make a name' in academe as 'cryptographer' by pushing rsa. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but i - obviously - wasn't there.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha don't kid, you make my heart jump so.
mircea_popescu: which is why they keep inventing academic honors for the emperor. they work admirably, don't they.
mircea_popescu: king can not invest by staff. he doesn't have a staff to give.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the expression of the castrated subhumans that nevertheless are intelligent enough to notice the problem, this is usually called the "knowledge problem", ie poor state can't acquire and process enough information to make a reasonable gosplan.
mircea_popescu: problem being, they don't actually help, just serve to alienate me further.
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu doesn't have an argument against gosplan ?! other than not liking the colour & shape on purely aesthetic grounds?
asciilifeform: i'm trying to grasp how it isn't an argument for gosplan tho
Azelphur: mircea_popescu, haven't been around much recently so haven't familiarised myself with it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382567 << well, actually, they sold back when they had to take the poisoned dollars of the masses, a few bucks at a time. once they n olonger need that, they don't. who eats garbage if they can help it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that didn't work out so well did it
Azelphur: whoops, he said he'd pay me an installment of £1000ish on Monday, then said it was a bank holiday and that he would send it out Tuesday, ignored me till yesterday where he claimed he had sent it out, but honestly he has said it's sent so many times and it didn't arrive I don't trust it any more
punkman: told me he needed some contract work 3 months ago, but didn't follow through
mats: for some reason the abrams doesn't have it
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: lol aren't you a bucket fulla sunshine.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: good idea except that syncing reference implementations to the best of my knowledge don't know the current blockheight
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even dump that, which would be insane but at least it'd be insane.
ben_vulpes: didn't phf do something with timestamps?
mircea_popescu: this doesn't explain why young men are so undistinguishable from monkeys.
trinque: why is the egyptian man's desire for food, a place to shit, and women to fuck different from mine? and if it isn't, whence this idea that my motivations are manifold (and advanced!), his few?
asciilifeform: this being said, i wouldn't mind visiting limonov's (or mircea_popescu's for that matter) planet where folks practice bare-handed head-chopping from sunrise to noon, and measure neutron cross-sections, compose symphonies, after dinner
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 03:40:38; mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live.
mircea_popescu: it isn't up to them. some people dont' care. some do. they can't change this anymore than you can be a woman.
mircea_popescu: the only news in the world is the history you didn't know and the measurements you took incorrectly.
mircea_popescu: i don't mind.
asciilifeform: and i suppose 'human processes' didn't change a lick since pharaonic egypt. aha, right.
mircea_popescu: anyway - the exact same sort of people sifted to the top in the su as do anywhere else all the time. which is why yeltsin didn't survive and putin did.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform prison term didn't dislodge. people came back to their own flats.
mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: you can't blame the gods and live to see the morn.
mircea_popescu: when plebs "own stock", the problem becomes unsolvable, because the ready answer is, "i can't blame myself, for i'm nothing - so i'll just blame the gods"
polarbeard: that's right, I shouldn't have released it this early anyway
asciilifeform: (no, you don't ~have~ to split the patches into patchons, to do this)
polarbeard: you didn't read the script
ben_vulpes: why won't you answer that one
ben_vulpes: "i didn't know any better" is, for the record, an entirely acceptable response.
ben_vulpes: the dependency chain of "well i work for satan because i got this useless phd that i got because i had a masters i didn't know what to do with because i got a bachelors that i similarly didn't understand the purpose of because i was told to go to college and" it never fucking ends and i don't really give a shit about the root cause for whatever retardation.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for ben_vulpes, but the idea that folks who what they do for some explicable reason, rather than because of daemonic possession, was - imho - an advance.
asciilifeform: i read the whole thing, still can't figure out the 'why'
ben_vulpes: "what, can't afford 10 dollars for your text editor?"
assbot: Logged on 02-05-2014 03:15:33; asciilifeform: basic course on russian privatization. 'your formerly state-issued flat is now yours. you are a millionaire!' - 'neato. but my salary hasn't been paid in a year. gotta buy something to eat. what does dinner cost?' - 'half a million.'
asciilifeform: but somehow most ended up bought up by folks who didn't have to worry about eatin'
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 02:07:25; ben_vulpes: toilet paper, and i ain't talkin equity!
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 01:40:55; mircea_popescu: they didn't want to make a simple "stock ownership for employees is STRICTLY reserved for employees making over 500k a year and over the age of 50" for obvious reasons
ben_vulpes: well it doesn't actually work, asciilifeform
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 20:50:17; BingoBoingo: We only got 3 or 4 inches of snow. Yet rather than remove it derps drive over it until it refreezes into a slick that doesn't remove so easily
ben_vulpes: toilet paper, and i ain't talkin equity! ☟︎
ben_vulpes: lol you didn't read the thread didja
ben_vulpes: life would be more like you don't get them when you need them.
mircea_popescu: hey, they don't pay me $infinity + bonuses + golden dirigibles for nothing.
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no reason people who make 30 an hour should own stock ; and if they did it certainly shouldn't be yours.
ben_vulpes: i had to explain how buy-and-hold of non-dividend-paying-stocks the other day wasn't forgoing compounding.
mircea_popescu: they didn't want to make a simple "stock ownership for employees is STRICTLY reserved for employees making over 500k a year and over the age of 50" for obvious reasons ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the problem here, and it's a fundamental problem, is that the derps that get employed aren't usually investor grade.
ben_vulpes: i don't see the problem with embezzling a reasonable amount of toilet paper. it's a valid business expense, and the staff don't get taxed for it.
ben_vulpes: except for the ones who are not and who don't want anything to do with my asbestos gloves.
mircea_popescu: uh. weren't q&q quartz timepieces like 10-20 bux since forever ?
pete_dushenski: who wouldn't want an over-priced timepiece manufactured by hobos ? not ~real~ americans !!!1
pete_dushenski: btc-e trading higher than bistamp, which is itself trading higher than bitfinex... don't think i've ever seen that before.
mircea_popescu: yeah, until it doesn't it keeps paying.
mircea_popescu: myeah. dey doubled down on stupid didn't dey.
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall what that was ?
mircea_popescu: actually, that one reporter wasn't bad, however long ago.
polarbeard: that's why I said I don't know wether this will hit make's limits
mircea_popescu: so technically it doesn't need the v once the output has been generated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381687 << the definition of "effective" under which he operates is both peculiar and self-defeating. he wants to get something (in this case, anything, whatsoever) for nothing (in this case, no casualties, the one thing usg can't afford is coffins). so in that sense, his insanity is sensible. ☝︎
polarbeard: yep, this is quite experimental anyway, I don't know make's limits
polarbeard: I don't know if you'll find this interesting or horrible :)
pete_dushenski wasn't raised by wolves, can't confirm
pete_dushenski: just imagine the conversation at lizard hitler hq : "sir, we have reports that the bitcoin xtcoreclassic team isn't providing adequate lulz to our enemies at #b-a. we've expended all the resources we had at our disposal and it still isn't enough. they're indefatigable sir!" "send in... the drones. it might not be a perfect plan, but it's all we have right now. at the very least, it'll buy us some time." "right away,
pete_dushenski: widow from vietnam can have 350/mo forever, can't afford cauliflower
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 21:48:51; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381561 << who the everliving fuck ~doesn't~ report the theft? 'oh i don't need the insurance money, just keep it' ?
pete_dushenski: there's a good reason you don't see many 15-20 year old hyundais on the road
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: bwahaha. "how much does your enemy need to pay you for you to answer the call in his time of need ?"... indeed. why shouldn't "recovery" guys be on the same side as "thieves" ?
jurov: rental agencies don't report that?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No. Thefts are rentals that just don't get returned. Talked to a couple people who did the scary work of "rental car recovery"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381561 << who the everliving fuck ~doesn't~ report the theft? 'oh i don't need the insurance money, just keep it' ? ☝︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: magnum r/t for sure. probably less than $10k for a decent one.
BingoBoingo: We only got 3 or 4 inches of snow. Yet rather than remove it derps drive over it until it refreezes into a slick that doesn't remove so easily ☟︎
BingoBoingo: What I don't get though is the people so lazy they won't do their own driveway and end up housebound three days after the last snow falls