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asciilifeform: phf knows very well what is 'who-calls'
asciilifeform: phf: with what didja replace , e.g., 'who-calls' ? with grep ?
asciilifeform: congrats phf
asciilifeform: phf: i'm still curious re with what you replaced emacs.
asciilifeform: phf: this is not untrue, but i'll be damned if i EVER consider hitting a key 70times in a row, a legitimate part of life, ever.
asciilifeform: ( unrelatedly, phf , the ivory2 appears to be back on auction )
asciilifeform: ooh hey phf retired from massaging bits, or wat
ben_vulpes: and also phf's actually-useful btcbase
asciilifeform: phf: ah those.
asciilifeform: phf: that must be new/recent
asciilifeform: phf: i've contemplated a 'cheat' : run macivory 'lifesupport' on patched m68k emulator (e.g., 'basilisk') that would bring nubus i/o out to a test stand, on which the card would sit
asciilifeform: oh hm i thought phf had an ivory
asciilifeform: out of curiosity, why does phf keep 'ivories' around if he has alpha, and on top of that a patched/working x64 generatron?
asciilifeform: phf wouldn't happen to know the pinout, by any chance ..?
asciilifeform: phf: i already have a logic analyzer, but would have to get it attaches to the pins on that thing
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 00:13 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 16:49 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i was thinking' of buying that 'ivory' and making a signal interposer . any idea whether the magic cpu was soldered down, or LIF socketed..?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-18 06:11 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626739 << all three listings were bought by same person http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623423
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 23:59 phf: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasfields << him
a111: Logged on 2015-07-19 22:04 mod6: <+phf> ben_vulpes: because makefile.unix expects them, (search for obj/nogui/%.o: %.cpp, etc.) << ben_vulpes yeah this stuff
a111: Logged on 2015-09-24 00:25 mod6: <+phf> shinohai: you probably have rm_gitignore.patch applied, which removes .gitignore files from src/obj/nogui and nukes the folders along the way? << i said to disregard this patch. reason is, it wipes out output dirs required by the bitcoin makefile.
asciilifeform: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112326565327 << holy fuq phf
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i was thinking' of buying that 'ivory' and making a signal interposer . any idea whether the magic cpu was soldered down, or LIF socketed..? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ty phf . but it was not clear to me what piece mircea_popescu had the problem with, was it where to get the patch, or where to put it.
mircea_popescu: phf ty
asciilifeform: it is on the ml, and also visible in phf's thing, http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_wires_rev1
mircea_popescu: phf funny that he spent any time on bbsen / early mailing lists and dunno what tourist is
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 22:47 phf: ben_vulpes: oh hey http://btcbase.org/patches/logbot-multiple-channels seems to be broken, missing antecedent for http://btcbase.org/hash/95A0046C0AF25E21DBA310217A289D7649DD86CB89709A89931BFE318A41022FFD4BA9DC046E04DAC1B32BC5304239866BF5CA9AD59328B7DA79B1D06437E273
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform also has a ~working~ 3620 but it is useless for phf's purpose , it was implemented as massive pile of ttl and a few ~dozen~ gate arrays )
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:41 phf: asciilifeform: i don't think that's a wasted effort. i got in touch with zeptobars people again, and my current best option (since they said shipping to russia is maddness) is to travel moscows sometime in summer and hand deliver the chip. assuming that i have one, but i take it you're no longer interested since "snap4 source"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-13 00:13 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i dug out my crate of dead bolix boards, turns out i'm a chump, the pcb in question was a dead xl1200 ~i/o~ board. the only cpu on it is what looks like a z80! 0 smbx silicon. ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: phf: cool thanks, will investigate
asciilifeform: phf: no, see, you gotta know max size to make array.
asciilifeform: phf: i suppose the correct term would be 'orphaned' patches
asciilifeform: phf: how did those end up existing ?
phf: and finally grapher now properly shows broken vpatches (i.e. ones that don't have all of the antecedents), for example http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=experimental all polarbeard ones, and my phf-shiva-swank are broken
asciilifeform: phf: oh hey mouseovers
Framedragger: phf: not enough docker
asciilifeform: phf: lol 404 ?
mircea_popescu: phf not a bad heuristic, except for the part where 30odd yo is kinda too old to work for a salary just like 20something yo is kinda too old to "work in pr" / http://trilema.com/2010/bani-pentru-piariste/
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 17:20 phf: "you want meaning in your life? lol. here's 50 books of meaningless rituals. that you have to perform daily. the smarter you are the more rituals you get. knock yourself out."
mircea_popescu: phf aha. quite spurious failed civilisation(s), that continent
mircea_popescu: phf i don't follow. so what if they are ?
mircea_popescu: phf well he's considering what he's considering, seeing how he's doing the measuring. i was kinda biasing towards ext2 in the previous discussions (which i guess nobody reads or something ?) , but hey, can't impede man's independent manhood!
mircea_popescu: phf entirely idle example, no more important than strand of hay, which is why chosen here, illustrates beautifully.
asciilifeform: phf: didja miss where i noted that i wrote to them ? and signed fat cheques to some of'em ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 19:06 phf: (if nobody else steps up, i'm going to bring one up in a day or two)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:29 phf: it never occured that he wanted the link. when he said "i want snap4 source" i assumed he's talking about the original alpha source, or a complete working lispm emulator from scratch, a spherical horse of "working, readable lispm emulator", rather then what's actually there
asciilifeform: and phf earlier was right, it is very difficult to clone the iron EVEN with the src
asciilifeform: phf: it just blows my mind, if random d00d had not tipped me off, i could handily go ANOTHER 8 YEARS of ida
asciilifeform: anyway phf i meant american postbox
asciilifeform: srsly, i'm not one of them weird folx who whisper around. phf can have the iron, or gpggram where to send.
asciilifeform: phf: you can have for cost of postage !
asciilifeform: but even so it's a bit rich , to silently watch asciilifeform considering to buy electron microscope, to get at WHAT PHF HAD IN HIS POCKET already omfg.
asciilifeform: if , for example, there are detailed design docs, or yet-nonpublic sources in there, phf is well justified in his continued skulduggery perhaps
mircea_popescu: phf my conclusion is built out of a lot of disinterest, mind.
asciilifeform: phf: i can't speak for mircea_popescu , but i don't specialize in hasty conclusions
asciilifeform: now if phf dun wanna publish his src, whateverses, who am i to say that he must
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 17:37 phf: i'm not sure, but i remember you have to put a handful of magic incantations to live fix clx on genera to make it connect to crapple's x11
asciilifeform: phf: you're quite right that it isn't. thing is an astonishing pile of gnarl. but all of the necessary info, is ~inside~ it, just like 'bitcoin' lives inside the rubbish of trb
asciilifeform: i'll buy this, because i'd rather buy this than 'phf is afraid of smbxmasons revenge'
mircea_popescu: phf why was it you didn't link him again ?
asciilifeform: but same thing happening, every single fucking time, all the way up to phf staying mum re the src.
mircea_popescu: phf emails also basically suck. who even reads them. do they even arrive anymore ? etc.
asciilifeform: phf: i was given him as a paid support .
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:18 phf: your approach to sourcing this info is by googling, while actually getting in touch with people who might know is derided as "whispering". while the content's been published and public since forever, those who follow along presumbly knew since then
asciilifeform: i wrote to motherfucking kalman reti, phf
mircea_popescu: phf the worth is always an objective, public matter. that you like inept whore / bad painting / whatever in your own livingroom does not make it worth anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:42 phf: the timing of this rant is amusing, because i'm flying out to dks's tomorrow. which is why last time we talked about it i ~explicitly asked you not to rant about this in public~. if nobody cares about symbolics proper, then people certainly do care about the fickle opinions of older men, who are sitting on irreplaceable treasure troves of smbx technology.
mircea_popescu: phf so far i'm just trying to probe this crater, i have nfi what's going on.
asciilifeform: phf: if there is one thing bolix aficionados is not, is poor.
asciilifeform: i won't telepsychoanalyze phf or any other of the other folx. but i gotta wonder wtf was in their heads.
asciilifeform: also phf yes i recall why you were going. but in light of the instruction set being out... my mind boggles, why to bother with ANYTHING but fpgaization pronto.
asciilifeform: phf: oh neato, can you buy kbdbabel ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:10 asciilifeform: phf: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/Symbolics3600Keyboard.png and -- laboriously extracted empirically !! -- http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix_keys.txt
asciilifeform: anyway this thread is not a personal stick to poke at phf, but at ~all~ of the culprits.
asciilifeform: phf: i have 0 idea of what is the goal of others. can only infer.
asciilifeform: nobody's gonna 'legit manufacture' it, phf , even if dks and that nsa d00d who owns him, do an 'official' release.
asciilifeform: what's still in that treasure chest, that phf -- or anybody else -- wants?!
asciilifeform: also it boggles my mind, why is phf still buying the old iron, the instruction set's been out since '09... buy fpga board.
asciilifeform: phf: this is proving my point.
asciilifeform: it's one thing to scan schematics, and post, i forgive phf for not having gotten around to this chore (he proclaimed to intend it a year or so ago iirc) because it is a heavy labour
asciilifeform: !!gettrust phf
asciilifeform: phf: asciilifeform is 'all-comer' ?
mircea_popescu: phf he has a strong case though. no blogs, no mirrors, jack shit. "oh we knew. github." cmon.
asciilifeform: phf: i publicly struggled with reversing every piece of smbx gear i could get my hands on. chronicled on my www.
asciilifeform: and did phf bother to mention the public existence of src ?
asciilifeform: phf, incidentally, do you know that i blew MONTHS, if you add it up, possibly most of a year of life, sawing open 'snap4' genera in ida ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/Symbolics3600Keyboard.png and -- laboriously extracted empirically !! -- http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix_keys.txt ☟︎
asciilifeform: can i download phf's mac-patched, actually-builds genera somewhere ? or do i have to knock on a naugahyde-covered door in the bar from lsl and whisper 'ken sent me' and knock 3 times..?
asciilifeform: phf: yeah i'm not sure why a xl1201 owner would even need the console
asciilifeform: phf: you dun run your 1201 24/7 do you.
asciilifeform: phf: aha. doesn't sound like a jet turbine either
asciilifeform: phf: consider publishing, it could come in quite handy at some point.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 12:25 mircea_popescu: phf the story of alpha is perhaps one of the best illustrations of the fundamentally anti-intellectual stance and calling of the female state. 1980s true 64 bit architecture, well supported (openvms started there, ffs, go revolutionize shit in 2015 with the remnants of 1980s tech). "sold" to fiorina's company, never heard from again, because gotta prop up intel.
asciilifeform: phf: link to yours some time ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 10:43 phf: i don't quite remember, what goes where, but i'm pretty sure the emulator.c that you linked is a frankenstein that primarily emulates alpha, though it has some signifcant knowledge about what the alpha emulator does, so it's not quite qemu, but something a lot scarrier
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 10:39 phf: asciilifeform: if you spent time with it though, you'll realize that it's an assembly dump of the original emulator written for alpha, and the "emulator" part is actually a combination of c and lisp necessary to ~translate original alpha assembly into portable-ish c~
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 10:39 phf: asciilifeform: if you spent time with it though, you'll realize that it's an assembly dump of the original emulator written for alpha, and the "emulator" part is actually a combination of c and lisp necessary to ~translate original alpha assembly into portable-ish c~