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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the settlement, if indeed there was one and it is not disinfo - went, as always and without exception it does, to the bloodsuckers
asciilifeform: same as i would.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: doubt that it's as complicated as all that. probably just straight mental mapping of the lion in the washington zoo, or even in some cartoon, to the real thing << Last time I went to St Louis zoo they had balding malnourished lions. Surprised local bangers didn't take them as bait for training their pitbulls.
asciilifeform: as pictured in mircea_popescu's old article
asciilifeform: decimation: doubt that it's as complicated as all that. probably just straight mental mapping of the lion in the washington zoo, or even in some cartoon, to the real thing
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 04:09:48; asciilifeform: where believer is invited to picture himself as blind from birth street urchin etc
decimation: I suggest anyone who is against lion-hunting: go help guard the lions (without weapons) in their territory. when the lion eats your leg as you sleep, you will know he is doing it with appreciation
mircea_popescu: " As such, 5 of the 56 field offices operated by the FBI currently lack a computer scientist assigned to that office's Cyber Task Force."
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-02-2015#1025516 "nothing feels as good as fighting rightists ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Crocodile humor is the laughter of the powerful at the powerless. It is not intended to be funny. It is intended to intimidate. Those who laugh, as many do, are those who love to submerge themselves in a mob, feel its strength as theirs, chant and shake their spears as one.'
asciilifeform: 'Many UR readers have had the priceless educational privilege of growing up behind the Iron Curtain. These readers will identify Professor DeLong's tone at once: it is the tone of the Soviet humor magazine Krokodil. I will take the liberty of Anglicizing, and call it "crocodile humor." Extremely educated readers may also be familiar with the Nazi variant, as found in Der Stürmer and the like. The material is different, of cou
asciilifeform: 'Béraud used to contribute to the Fascist weekly paper Gringoire, which in its later years had become the most disgusting rag it is possible to imagine. I have seldom been so angered by anything in the press as by its cartoon when the wretched Spanish refugees streamed into France with Italian aeroplanes machine-gunning them all the way. The Spaniards were pictured as a procession of villainous-looking men, each pushing a han
decimation: "My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States."
BingoBoingo: "Winnie the Pooh, on the other hand, wouldn’t know the first thing about courage. If he were on United Airlines Flight 93, for example, not only would he have not joined the revolt against the terrorists, but he probably would’ve gotten down on his yellow knees and sucked the terrorists’ cocks one by one. “Oh, bother!” he would shrug as the al-Qaeda operatives drilled the back of his throat with their pube-slathered ding
BingoBoingo: "He’s got that swagger. There are a lot of good lessons children can learn from a major-league pussy-crusher like Big Bird, such as the importance of confidence, courage, and friendship. "
asciilifeform: as for mircea_popescu's observation as quoted in qntra, i will say now what i said then:
asciilifeform: 'and that Darkode intended to use Bitcoin addresses as authentication tools' << mno. someone purporting to be 'darkode' admin proclaimed that ~some idiot webwallet~ will be used !
asciilifeform: the joke is always on the public, because at no point was so much as N=1 needed for any conceivable purpose
trinque: BingoBoingo: "As if so often" << typo
decimation: as a long time user of RPN calculators I do indeed find forth pleasing
trinque: that actually works fine for me as a separate tool, and as you say, if there's a wiki, great
assbot: Logged on 06-08-2015 01:59:06; *: BingoBoingo thinks whole problem is that 'patch' demands line numbers instead of using nearby lines of code as landmarks
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-08-2015#1226803 << i happen to like forth. i bring up chuck moore as an example of 'yes we can recreate 25 years of electronics on a napkin, and it'll fucking work' ☝︎
trinque: this grouping together of things signed can be done with deeds as they are
mod6: so i guess all in all, the deedbot solution, if it can be created, seems better than my initial proposal of 2 mailing lists; one for everything, one for patches accepted only. which seems simple as well, but now we have to manage two lists.
BingoBoingo thinks whole problem is that 'patch' demands line numbers instead of using nearby lines of code as landmarks ☟︎
mod6: but what if we then, say, at the end of a testing/release cycle were to (instead of signing or as well as posting to the mailing list) post the plaintext patch and a detach signature from the originating author, myself & ben to deedbot as a perm storage for these patches?
asciilifeform: neh, as in pumping happily
mircea_popescu: yes in her, but as in, he fell in ?
asciilifeform: (so long as you have a serial port going)
asciilifeform: walks an array of $machineword and adds'em up, munging the carry bits as needed.
mircea_popescu: this strikes me as uniquely retarded
mircea_popescu: that didn't play out as expected.
shinohai: My thoughts as well. I'll throw up a webserver or stuff like that on there. But those sorts of postings are a big nope for me.
mod6: that would be the way to do it as I said earlier. but not sure if that's really feasable.
mod6: main difference seems to be... we would now need to enter our password every time to verify the signature as opposed to just --verify
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 decrypt on *clearsigned* file << this indeed works. created file A.txt. copied A.txt to B.txt and subtracted some lines. created a unified diff of both. clearsigned the diff -- which is mutilated for escaped hyphens. upon `gpg --decrypt` of the clearsigned output patch file, i get the same hash as the pre-clearsigned hash file.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 ^ give that a long think. << i like this idea with the wot graph + source patches as a tree next to it so relations can be easily seen & drilled into.
mircea_popescu: so basically ml as restateds + grapher in the sense of the above, svg (clickable) is really the definitive word on this ?
mircea_popescu: have all the wot listed on the side. have all the patches AS A TREE listed next to it. have relations from wot tyo patches.
jurov: as with xorg buffer, i'm curious, will see if anyone submits something with valid sig that gpg fails to unescape.
mircea_popescu: ie, - came out as - and - - as - -
ascii_field: as described earlier.
mod6: ascii_field: so does `gpg --decrypt` work for that as danielpbarron & jurov said?
jurov: so, ml can stay as is (without filename mutilation)?
mircea_popescu: if it stays as a ml, becomes a wiki, somehow otherwise including deedbot or not changes i do not care per se
mircea_popescu: well i don't feel equal to the task of restating the whole conversation as ongoing for past weeks / peaked today. i'll just say : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225521 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the objection to ml as is was not that individual patches are unreadable.
ascii_field: custom as in opening up rusted shut things that i haven't adjusted for many years
mircea_popescu: but that's not a bin oh you mean text-as-binary ?
ben_vulpes: putrefaction of corpses, it was the sovereign smell of their first meeting, and her emblem. The turd slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but bravely clamps his teeth shut. Bread that would only have floated in porcelain waters somewhere, unseen, untasted—risen now and baked in the bitter intestinal Oven to bread we know, bread that’s light as domestic comfort, secret as death in bed . . . Spasms in his throat
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << how aboot i buy you a vidcard ? Hard to stick in portable machine. Also problem isn't machine. Problem is cg isn't available as source or for OpenBDSM
mircea_popescu: mike_c anyway ima link to deedbot just as soon as it pops.
mircea_popescu: as a substitute for a personality.
ascii_field: but not really. 'simple as possible, not simpler'
mod6: as you can see clearsign mangles the text: - --- a/rotor.sh .... - -../dist/configure
ben_vulpes: n6: d'you plan to get into the wot as well?
punkman: I just mentioned it as an easy way to make deeds out of patches
mod6: see, we could uu encode stuff or gzip stuff or do any number of things, but then it's far less readable "as-is"
ascii_field: but as replacement?!
ascii_field: deedbot as adjunct to ml - works
trinque: mod6: as for how deedbot- might be used, not clearly defined yet
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225757 << i like the deedbot idea; that is submit patches as deeds. The mailing list has stuff i need to decrypt/verify anyway, and I'm not a big fan of email in general ☝︎
punkman: but I'm guessing as to patch order, branches, etc
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225805 << this is what i refer to as 'blackholed' ☝︎
trinque: so if you say did the structured data in the "blobs" as sexps you could sign that text easily
mircea_popescu: jurov i wasn't proposing they be used as is.
asciilifeform: same as a tarball would be
asciilifeform: afaik this was never an issue with patches (they were attached as binaries)
mircea_popescu: as opposed to what ?
asciilifeform: as i understand, any mechanized thing really depends on patches stating their antecedents
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's what i want to accomplish, as a goal : i want to be able to put up a linux system, then go curl http://trilema.com/autobitcoin.sh | gpg -verify > autobitcoin.sh. and then run that autobitcoin.sh, which auto-follows the changes of people i have selected for this task, builds them and runs them ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not on the fucken reader. prolly 2/3 of our problem as is
mircea_popescu: this is where im headed. have the syntax as a burden ON THE WRITER
jurov: i see it as minor change. majur obstacle is how to sanely track stuff who released, who signed
asciilifeform: as in, can i download whole thing and attribute every delta to a wot person ?
punkman: kako uses it on bitcoin-assets wiki as well
asciilifeform: well, one reason why possibly not is that i suspect that the ml is as quiet as it is because signing things is arduous
mircea_popescu: but just as the saying goes, past performance is no guarantee of future success. that we readily crushed the "omai, bigger blocks" initiative, like all "initiatives" to date does not offer any guarantee we'll manage next time.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact, approaching the matter conversely, a straight github repository would be just fine from the M perspective if it were doubled by duly deedbotted hashes of the plaintext. and on the other hand, irrespectively how inscrutable -r content would be just fine from a U perspective, just as long as someone can somehow convert it into a plaintext they can sit down with, follow, and never be surprised.
mircea_popescu: one is USE. specifically - hanbot must be able to put into work the theoretical advances b-a produces. and ima use her as a stand-in for "intelligent and willing to work, but not able to grow a beard". ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 04:43:53; asciilifeform: need hard ~dates~ as well as identity.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225116 << i can see this as pretty legitimate. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: But MPT made it way to clear in his adverts that he did "dark web stuff" to address him as a person. That would be like buying a gram of blow from the white boy dressed as a pimp.
shinohai: > "the FBI agent name dropped Coindesk as a thing he reads...."
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Customer service at a regional univeristy. Nothing glamorous, but given how long as it has been since I was last fiat employable.
BingoBoingo: Seems about as true as ever http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2014#726890 ☝︎
BingoBoingo notes filings issued in venues other than a #b-a deedbot will from now and from twenty years in the past be treated as suggestions rather than orders.
ben_vulpes: mine explode at the line that fails instead of airily carrying on as though nothing happened.
trinque: that's what I as a newb trying to wade in wanted to know
decimation: and there is no tool (as far as I know) that automates this task
ben_vulpes: no, for another read through and another hack at "etc. as before" will resolve this.
asciilifeform: need hard ~dates~ as well as identity. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 03:22:40; asciilifeform: a mistake that is owned up to, before it sinks any ships - can perhaps be accepted as a mistake, and forgiven
decimation: I thought ascii was okay with repos as long as it was clear which patches 'caused' the repo state
decimation: this is an infinite argument amoung developers: 'repo is for good code', 'no repo is for new code as it is being written'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if there is every any symptom of folks reading the ml but not #b-a, it might be worth considering to use the ml as something other than a file dumping ground for #b-a
asciilifeform: guessed as much.
mircea_popescu: the problem is simply this : as you get successful you get fat, and that fat is then... coming to expect.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not on front page yet, but may as well submit since no one else took this low hanging tomato