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orgndnor:
i don't use facebook or twatter, sir
orgndnor:
i like to reside privately and peruse the worlds data to form my own assumptions.
orgndnor: well, fellows, you are just that much superior; no way
i can engage.
trinque: poor thing thinks
I'm ingroup signaling with it
trinque: and he thought "this is it;
I'll tell them how it really be, and they'll dig"
BigTexasBingo: And
I need an answer on what is wsup, and how does it connect to hair theory.
orgndnor:
i get it if singularity is wsup. maybe you got inside tech knowledge.
orgndnor: yeah. that's exactly why
i am here, again.
orgndnor: respect and all that shit,
i assume that involves discipline.
orgndnor:
i mean, you are pedigreed, wealthy, educated, opinionated and idealistic
orgndnor:
i guess lock down til the fuedalists return
orgndnor: well,
i've read a lot of material. most of the available logs, monsiuer p's blogs...
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-21#1785459 << incidentally, this doc has been very useful thus far in illuminating my own naivete. Spent the last coupla days just learning ultra-basics of, e.g. hash preimage, second preimage, and collision resistance. Hell,
I even had to look up simple big O notation.
I am, however, learning it, at least. "One day at a time"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 14:52 mircea_popescu: and as to the final thing : the whole idea of the archive item (which lobbes asked for and
i very much doubt he realised at the time what an immense item it is) is to RECONSTRUCT the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence the merkle tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
mircea_popescu:
i'm seriously considering getting an actual freeze room next place. like a fucking restaurant ;/
mircea_popescu: it's this huge, taller-than-person, double-door purely usian abomination unknown in these lands.
i just opened it and the act apparently upsed the clever packing scheme used because
i ended up covered in items.
mircea_popescu: ima waste all the dozens of bytes at a time
i feel like, holy hell "install disc". TO INSTALL AN X THAT CRASHES ALL CLIENTS.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, if unix philosophy were anymore than 15yos notions that "that's it, now
i understand women!" they very much would be.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:45 mod6:
I was thinking lsat night about my version of V in Ada, and am using shellouts there for the gpg related things. even with an integrated FFA, still need to add in an integrated Keccac from s.mg - those two
I can work around. Others might be harder than it sounds.
mod6: But, not impossible.
I'm not sure, maybe someone else has better ideas how to handle this.
mircea_popescu: fwiw,
i don't think shellouts PER SE are a bad idea, or the wrong thing, or untenable. much like the notion of building houses WITH DOORS isn't in itself problematic. now, what gets in through those holes, well...
mod6:
I was thinking lsat night about my version of V in Ada, and am using shellouts there for the gpg related things. even with an integrated FFA, still need to add in an integrated Keccac from s.mg - those two
I can work around. Others might be harder than it sounds.
☟︎ mod6: Well...
I'm worried that if start to try to pin down all of the versions and their hashes, it just adds a bunch of complexity.
mod6:
I've gotta go snow blow this 8" of snow. Will think on it a bit.
mod6: mircea_popescu:
I see your point re-hashes, might be something to consider in the future. Been avoiding painting myself into a corner with the prototype.
mircea_popescu: print a warning, "your X util exists, but its hash differs from what
i ran this on, so please test and report" ?
mircea_popescu:
i'd take it one step further and : mod6 do you think it might be a good idea to actually include hashes ?
trinque: ah
I have no idea if there actually is one without /tmp, but
I get where the guy's mistrust comes from.
trinque: at first
I said to myself "what unix ships without /tmp", and then
I get to 0x04 and what can
I say. "ship completely useless" indeed.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 18:48 mircea_popescu: normally
i'd have alf explain it to you ; but he's busy. so what
i want you to do is write a blog article about "how to use merkle trees to avoid duplicate problem in web page archiving", and then
i'll comment on it.
mircea_popescu: and as to the final thing : the whole idea of the archive item (which lobbes asked for and
i very much doubt he realised at the time what an immense item it is) is to RECONSTRUCT the poorly designed "web" into proper structure. hence the merkle tree discussions and so on. so very much yes, eventually we'll be using a proper republican accessing scheme.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and as to the selection :
i just tried ctrl^ and it worked fine. IN NANO.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:42 phf: we also at some point had a thread, where
i believe ascii but also others were leaning towards the idea of a single file vpatches (
i.e. that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file).
i'm starting to think that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit the entire compilation in memory"), but then
i've been looking at TeX on one hand, and the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on the other
spyked: there's another thing, though
I still have to get up to date on
http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=hypertext : teh Trilema JS is trying to solve what seems to be a limitation in the current URI scheme. the "resource" in URI refers to documents/pages (files!), whereas we want to (and it would be useful to be able to) link to subtrees in the document.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785621 <-- ugh, my engrish; of course, by "highlighting"
I mean "text selection", which is a GUI thing, and w3m and lynx/links seem to lack it altogether. now, scrolling they don't lack, but the js bit still doesn't implement window.scroll. anyway, let's consider the fact that text editors implement both selection and scrolling (and possibly other features useful for a browser), so a stripped-down text
☝︎ hanbot: phf anyway re your footnote four,
i think it looks great, and stolen takes one l, though "stollen from elsewhere" sounds delicious
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so
i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ?
i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes to explain what
i mean : there's some reality the contract handles (R) and some actual wording of the contract W. the delta R-W can be brought under an arbitrary value epsilon, but not to zero. the delta epsilon translates in a delta time dT you have to pour into the wringing of this allignment.
mod6: Sure, let's circle back around,
I'll send what
i've got. others can send theirs too.
mod6: Alright, noted.
I'm basically using some generics + one that has broadcomm support.
spyked: shinohai, my guess so far is that text browsers completely lack window interaction (e.g. scrolling, text highlighting), so they can't do the Trilema bits. but
I want to be able to give a proper answer, which requires a bit of debugging.
trinque: would be great. once
I've gotten feedback from several folks
I'll genesis.
mod6:
I'd love to see others step up and work through that as well.
mod6: yup,
i recall. thanks for posting that.
I need to go through the steps myself. maybe can do here in the next couple of weeks.
shinohai: neat, thanks!
I got weird behavior for most part when
i last compiled
spyked: will write up a blog post when
I'm done
spyked: hi shinohai.
I compiled it and ran it, but running trilema js still doesn't work.
I've also tried a few other browsers with similar results.
I am trying some simpler js snippets to get an idea of what works and what not
spyked: hey mod6,
I just checked v99993 using ffa ch1-5 and also used it to test a press of phf's vtools and it works fine. NB: Debian systems are now pretty much broken and won't allow setting the default gpg to v1, so
I had to manually replace the gpg calls in v.pl to use gpg1.
Loren:
I just read the declaration of sovereignty.
I found it very interesting, but
I'm leaving because
I have nothing interesting to say.
I've to read the logs first.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~,
I am happy to announce the release of my V : version 99993 K. The tarball has been posted to the website
http://thebitcoin.foundation : Also, take note, the trb-howto guide linked on The Foundation website has also been updated.
mod6: jurov:
I sent an email to the ML, but isn't showing up.
I can confirm that the clearsigned data verifies on my end.
mod6:
I suppose, if we could get the following commitments: 1) Someone in L1 (L2?) to source two new machines [with equiv specs] for The Foundation, delivered to ben_vulpes March 31st. 2) A delivery plan for these two new machines to Pizaroo in .uy.
mod6:
I think the foundation should avoid this sale.
ben_vulpes:
i've got a pretty cut-and-dried cost basis for those two machines. it'll look like an line expense for the machines and hardware, followed by a line of income for sale-of-assets matching to the satoshi, plus possibly a token fee to the foundation for assembling them.
mod6: Feels like it'd be hairy. Although,
I can see the possible necessity. If
I can be convinced that the accounting will be simple and straightforward for the public,
I'll consider it more.
ben_vulpes: hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now;
i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
ben_vulpes:
i have one machine that's about to come out of the crate that
i'll detail on the blog;
i'd intended it for vpsen but would also be happy to lease it entire.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
i dunno that
i could be arsed to read/whatever a contract tbh ; but do you have a gearlist or anything yet ?
ben_vulpes: trinque: can
i get the pizarro website's rss feed added to deedbot?
mod6: this time
i was like "WAT?!", but then
i was like "ok, MOST of the time this thing is correct if it's complaining,
I must have did something wrong... but what could it be?!"
mod6: Ah crap. Disregard this ^ --
I screwed up and created a detached sig of the charter.txt proper, not the vpatch. hurr durr.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 01:00 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless,
i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit
mod6: alright! My bad before, that problem wasn't an "error" proper, it was a Warning, a Warning in 'error.c'. If
I'd read more carefully
I'd probably have noticed.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless,
i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit
☝︎☟︎ mod6: again, uber simple,
i encourage everyone out there to test with wider testcases ofc.
mod6: fwiw
I used that binary produced, even with the error, to test and see if it would yield the same vdiff as the original would, and so far, looks like it works just the same as printed on the box.
I don't have as good of a test case as hanbot will have tho. Mine was very basic.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: aha. Other than the subj. popping up in logs occasionally and my looking it up
I really don't have a firm grasp on merkle trees.
I will happily digest and produce blog post once completed with homework.
mircea_popescu: normally
i'd have alf explain it to you ; but he's busy. so what
i want you to do is write a blog article about "how to use merkle trees to avoid duplicate problem in web page archiving", and then
i'll comment on it.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 17:59 lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one,
I realized that
I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip
I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches.
lobbes: This exercise lead me to think about many other small but important details regarding how download requests will work.
I'ma thinking
I ought to bake a blog post for general input
lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one,
I realized that
I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip
I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: trinque: ty,
I am trying to get that habit into habituation again
shinohai:
I almost want to go fishing today.
shinohai: Wow.
I fully expect that to happen here though, it being only February. At least 1-2 more weeks of cold at some point.