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a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 06:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: eh, it's unlikely they do it any other way. alright then, so the draft plan here is, get the rack, 900 + 900, and the 20/200 option to start with, for a total of $3223 payable i ncash which you can actually raise by going in the local market ?
BingoBoingo: I am asking if it is a typo, awaiting response.
mircea_popescu: so either i'm misunderstanding some4thing or there's a typo in this post : 20/200 mbps (downlink/uplink) ie the server can RECEIVE 10 times as much as it can SEND ? this is backwards from practice.
BingoBoingo: The bank situation looks like it will continue to suck until a local id is in hand
shinohai: Been a long time since I've been around motorbikes, but yes.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what's the trade situation there, can you get a pile of cash for btc locally ? << Looks like it. At the very worst a boat ride to sufficient liquidity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude... first off you're looking at symmetrical for some reason, nfi why, second off no bw is free, contrary to what "cheap vps" outfits might've advertised to you and thirdly didn't we do this a few times before already ? ☟︎
trinque: this btw after I ignored him for a week
asciilifeform: 'we think that saheeb has much money, let's weld on a coupla zeros'
asciilifeform: come to think of it, maybe the sole connection to that cage ~is~ a sat ?!
asciilifeform: i dun recall ever seeing a price like this outside of satellite market.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's the trade situation there, can you get a pile of cash for btc locally ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-18 14:57 asciilifeform: 'The United States federal government has paid approximately half a million dollars to a private corporation to help various agencies conduct surveillance on the Bitcoin blockchain' << pretty lulzy, that's, e.g., 3 janitors, 2 clerks, 1 intern, for 1yr
asciilifeform: most preciously, in intro, 'moldavian is a language quite like other foreign languages you may have learned, such as french, spanish, italian...'
asciilifeform: well it's a language thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2011/grafia-istorica-a-limbii-romane/ << review item depicted on right
asciilifeform: incidentally, i picked up a lulb00k from a bankrupt shop , 'молдавский язык' , chisinau , 1990 . even has 'history' intro. guess of what country, 0 mention.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 15:40 phf: the whole font changes meaning take two is coming from the japanese. they were actively promoting this idea back during early unicode standardization days, where there was a strong drive to include every idiosyncratic version of kanji in the standard, because "that's how my family writes it in our last name".
mircea_popescu: for a long time the country's name was written in the japanese style, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-03#1513931 ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'chukcha wrote a book. we open the book: pg 1: 'man got on a horse.' pg . N : 'man got off horse' pg . 2 .. N-1 : 'tgdyk, tgdyk, tdgyk...' ' ☟︎
asciilifeform: hey if dressed up a bit, sells just as well in usa -- arsebook 'games' etc
mircea_popescu: onward hops the plastic horse, and there's a circle of dirt under its feet on the wooden square...
mircea_popescu: it's a very third worldy thing, to want to be the sad horse turning around the peg. so much so they actually sell this insanity here, as toys.
asciilifeform: it is a thing that they end up . but nobody sets out to.
asciilifeform: or a defective rng. or hell knows just about every broken-but-running mechanism.
asciilifeform: or washing machine walking across a room
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 02:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, he's evidently not useful. but he's not a logic gate, either. he's certainly not human. the fundamental identification/classification of "i will deliver result X through randomly chosen path each time" is... rng. at least to my mind.
asciilifeform: briefly to return to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1772934 , what motl and most other similar are, is precisely this : the unwanted oscillator. ever see a street lamp that flickered, on, off, on , off ☝︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, recently /me introduced briefly phuctor to whitebeard, mentioned bernstein smooth integers speedup, got very confused headshake and an invitation to point to where did this wonder happen ?! in s. n. bernstein book. "not that one, a newer one, american" "oh."
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 22:29 asciilifeform: aha. mircea_popescu also at one time was a maths man.
asciilifeform: whereas when i say 'this box is oscillator' it has a rigorous meaning. it means that i can draw the spectrum, and it is peaky.
mircea_popescu: you can\'t say how it'll fall but you can say it won't fall a beehive.
asciilifeform: motl is a loaded die tho. q is, loaded how. and does it have clinical implications for others.
mircea_popescu: your usage of it is defensible, but to declare it a clock seems a little much.
mircea_popescu: you ~use it~ as a clock crystal. but what it is... well... it's actually a rng.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, he's evidently not useful. but he's not a logic gate, either. he's certainly not human. the fundamental identification/classification of "i will deliver result X through randomly chosen path each time" is... rng. at least to my mind. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but any implemented oscillator is a... rng ?
mircea_popescu: so this definitionally makes him a meat rng then ?
asciilifeform: motl is not a meat rng tho. d00d suffers from a clearly identifiable fixation, 'the west' (tm)(r) where there is a 'capitalism' (tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 16:27 mircea_popescu: the important point here is that there can be NO retrospective read of the history of ideas in any actual discipline that is both a) longer than epsilon and b) fails to discover the PRINCIPAL bar to discovery is personal dishonesty.
mircea_popescu: this schmuck apparently changed physics for bitcoin you say ? a well.
asciilifeform: this particular d00d has been at it for a while.
mircea_popescu: it's only a pattern as an artefact of a short section selected.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
mircea_popescu: he's saying the things that could be said, some fraction thereof, as a function of the possibility of saying and no more. other exactly identical items are saying other fractions, and will continue to do so. to credit this is that long discussed error, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523269 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for all you know, orlov lives on a moored boat, and this dood lives in rms's quarters.
mircea_popescu: it's a cheap if useless mental trick, very substantially the same as http://trilema.com/2014/agency-and-other-notes/#selection-31.0-37.0 ; a certain sort of safe (ie, improductive) activity as a cover for impotence.
asciilifeform: i suspect that most of these folx are.. physiologically incapable of touching a subj that hasn't been tonywashed.
mircea_popescu: fucking tony. to quote from recent trilema, "And obviously it will then become, suddenly and unexplainably, a "native" topic of conversation ailleurs, specifically in such ESL ailleurs as may "coincidentally" but necessarily "forget" to mention where they even discovered this may be a topic of conversation in the first place. Oy vey.."
mircea_popescu: "Tony told me I was a statist because I am a critic of the Bitcoin. Tony isn't the only man who has raised this accusation."
mircea_popescu: whatever, whoever is dumb enough to imagine john smith invented religion is called "ustard" for a reason.
mircea_popescu: but all the pretense that "today matters -- after all i was born", as if this isn't well settled 2014 fare, and http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/ never occured, and so on... he's really REALLY late to the max keiser show.
mircea_popescu: it's little more than a restatement of ye olde, dearest dream of all nigger, "we'll get in later anyway:" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they all parasitize some topic or other. obama is a constitutional law scholar or how did it go.
asciilifeform: this d00d fills a previously-unfilled hole, gotta be , 'bitcoin as bolshevism'
asciilifeform: from his commentreplies, also gold, e.g. '...People who despise Western national fiat currencies are dirty fucked-up commies of the same kind that has plundered my country. I just won't ever support their goal, they're scum for me. Do you get it? Relatively to these important things, whether the replacement is called Ripple or Rouble is just a technicality. It's the same shit except that rouble actually works as a viable currency for
asciilifeform: 'The ISPs and commercial banks are parts of the capitalist economy and a systemic attack against them is obviously a systemic attack against capitalism – real-world capitalism – as such. Maybe it's because my position in the formative years – I considered myself a builder of the new capitalist economy including the old-fashioned brick-and-mortar commercial banks – but I just wouldn't hesitate for a second whom I root for in t
mircea_popescu: dude... nobody gives a shit now, ever will, or ever fucking has given a shit about your retarded usg idiocy. wake up and smell the coffee, jesus fucking christ, it's like watching imbecile african mamies with dirty bare feet and stupid headgarbs drone importantly about what-they-remember the preacher said in church.
mircea_popescu: there's a natural tendency to do the right thing that needs lengthy and elaborate stamping out before you get the full blown jwz.
mircea_popescu: his ~10 mn retirement went to a home in martha's vineyard and supposedly some memoirs to come.
mircea_popescu: this is about as likely as imagining john kerry is a better dresser at home than when sardined with orcs for publicity photos.
asciilifeform: muchly depends where. literally few blox from asciilifeform , bridge is being recemented. and not far from there, a brand new one built.
asciilifeform: the 1 item that still ~worx to spec in usa : roads. sorta like bread in ye olde su. it is a symbol of imperial 'mandate of heaven'
asciilifeform: ( and yes i have a manometer , and one of those small pumps )
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:47 asciilifeform: to be fair the company was not really a honest commercial co, moar like one of those unofficial usg research institutes, they proliferated under reagan and died with him
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:32 fromloper: yeah, somehow a lot of potentially interesting people on social media end up mostly posting this kind of crap
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1772007 <<< they went to "social media" aka sv wankpost rather than eg, came here, for a reason, after all. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771985 << i don't understand where the extra mass comes from iyo. in the trinque solution, one extra file'd have been gaining a total of count-patches lines. ook ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:13 apeloyee: I proposed being able to name arbitrary required antecedents << also probably needs a mechanism to declare "there are no other files in the tree"
mircea_popescu: that it got replaced ? im sure it's a mention here and there in the log
mircea_popescu: "city on a hill. of froth."
asciilifeform: i ain't got a better one. it'd make sense.
mircea_popescu: there's a certain "cramped spaces and highschool-ariline boarding security" nazism reinstatement that is appealing to a certain sort of person.
asciilifeform: i could even see the appeal if the plane were e.g. a mig, and does immelmans.
asciilifeform: whereas the airliner equiv to the cruise would be to buy a 1stclass ticket to go nowhere in particular, in a circle
asciilifeform: why put a shit hotel on a boat ?
asciilifeform: ( incidentally there is -- imho wholly without merit -- a school of physical-crackpotteristic thought that holds that he botched the job. )
asciilifeform: i respect folx who do honest work, even on particle zoos. just as i respect that cataloguers of rare birds in the jungle ; it is not a wholly pointless thing. but it is not comparable to heaviside, who walked into a room with 22 equations and came out with 4.
mircea_popescu: (before the large cern one, a smaller all-german item existed, proved most of modern physics, including all sorts of quark properties, laid the groundwork for eventual finding of top quark, etc)
asciilifeform: ( preferably if you have such a machine -- throw it out!! now! )
asciilifeform: the use of comba , and in fact of ANY multiplier that compiles into having a x86 MUL instruction anywhere in it, is unsafe on intel celeron. and ppc32. and possibly ppc64.
asciilifeform: somebody, somewhere, has such a machine.
asciilifeform: the result, however, is not in any sense 'translation', it is more of a compilation.
mircea_popescu: (for a better c complier, less "optimizing" at least)
mircea_popescu: and yet a bundle of c that produces exact same binary as your ada compiler does -- could be written
asciilifeform: consider a translation of ffa to c
mircea_popescu: i can't be the only one who translates code as a routine attempt at understanding wtf.
mircea_popescu: paternity is purely conventional in this strong sense. among us, we may think r,s & a invented rsa. among some gray beards somewhere else, they may well know better.
asciilifeform: different if the difference can be written as a program.
mircea_popescu: suppose yet another one takes your thing, fixes a bug, and says "this genesis also includes exactly alf's thing verbatim, except for this subtle bug i fixed". thereby... these are different, yes ?
asciilifeform: how many time do i gotta say it, i do not ask for a concepts-v.
mircea_popescu: and, back to the trunk, we've not even discussed the horror of translation. suppose you write a thing, in ada. suppose another, who works on a lisp tree, takes your thing and identically translates it to lisp (here defined, that on any correct machine his code will in all cases behave indentically to yours). what's your v to do here ?
mircea_popescu: what literate code is all about, nothing keeps you from putting a philosophy.preamble file in there. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and i will say, ftr, that invocation of ANY ffa components on ANY overlapping segments, is an abuse. and there is not in fact any way to guarantee correctness , if such a thing is permissible.
asciilifeform: as i said to apeloyee, in NO case can it be guaranteed that the parts cannot be cut up and re-sewn into a subtly broken shape.
asciilifeform: it gets attributed if it previously appeared under a signature somewhere.
mircea_popescu: if your desire can't be made to work in elementary cases, how would it work at all, is the bojum here. what, xor assignment gets a free pass, but "any program longer than 6 lines magically becomes attributable" ?>
asciilifeform: i'll repeat, i do not ask for a v that understands 'essences' or makes any such attempt.