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mircea_popescu: i dunno it's ever done in anger ; afaik it's a process of wholy vegetable male, where cock gets hard but eyes stay vacant.
the female will mount it eventually, because
the female will mount what she has available.
mircea_popescu: actually doing it or jacking off
to pictures labeled
thusly ?
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of
this exogenous porn.
the whole
trope of "
blacks supremacy porn" is ~entirely white male interest item. no depiction of a female elf in a classic mmorpg was made
to appeal
to females. and so following.
mircea_popescu: considering
there's more kids in india
trying
to get / having recently gotten into us colleges
than
there's kids in
the us jacking off, one could readily explain pornhub elements on
this cultural driver.
mircea_popescu: anyway, BingoBoingo 's
theory can also be constructed into a
third possible explanation : VHS america for a new generation, "they're so loose
there, so '''freee''', sons even fuck
their mothers!!!"
thinks 19yo
chowdry rasmadumberthanrockes while wanking it in glee.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (the important
thing
the amateur freudian is
to keep in mind is
that
the "universal" quality pretended
to
the framework is not universal at all -- but very speciffic
to
the
time and place,
the setting,
tired imperial vienna. in different conditions -- same breakage can
take different forms)
Mocky: i expect equal part laziness. I'd also expect
the sisters and not
the mothers
mircea_popescu: i expect
they'll succeed after
the potheads and before
the pedos, ~same chances as
the dog-and-pony fuckers.
mircea_popescu: Mocky
the only problem i see is
that if
this were
true, it'd be
the sisters, not
the mothers. and
there's actually an "unknown" (because pantsuit media ignores, so
that matters, hurr) interest group pushing for raising
the legal ban on
this.
they even have a whole rational argument, "since anticonceptionals..."
mircea_popescu: for lulz : i suppose everyone is aware
that
the word cretin is
the byproduct of euphemism
threadmill, dood was
trying
to introduce
the word "christian" ("cretien")
to discuss
the deeply retarded inhabitants of small isolated villages up in
the alps.
mircea_popescu: sounds more like laziness driven, but i guess
this is also a perfectly workable scheme (and, anthropologically,
the actual driver of actual incest in
the sort of isolated communities where it happens, ozarks, switzerland & co.)
Mocky: mircea_popescu: seems
to me
that 1.
the incest porn is anxiety fueled because 2. he is surounded by chix he'll never approach and he know's he never will 3.
the fanasy porn where mom / sister seduces ~him~ lets him imagine getting laid without
the burden of
trying
to be an agent
mircea_popescu: the one i had in mind specifically discusses
the matter from
the perspective of pantsuit attacking
traditional system, by expanding
the franchise
thus lowering
the average quality of
the participant
thus undermining
the defensible functioning of
traditional institutions.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
this says
the
thing, but isn't
the one i had in mind ;/
mircea_popescu: so far,
the
theory here articulates "1.
the incest porn can't be odepian-fueled because 2.
the only possible perception of his own mother is as a lesser
teenage goat which 3. he can't be bothered with
the better ones, why
the fuck would he be interested in
the lesser ones not
to mention 4. if he actually was in
the slightest interested, us suburban life would likely consist of
the boys gangbanging
the wives after schoo, "thur
Mocky: i'm generalizing from people i have met, and how
they would shit
themselves before walking up
to a girl.
mircea_popescu: the devil himself knows not
the mind of man, yet mocky can
tell by some pixels ? WHAT PIXELS!!! is all i'm
trying
to get out of you, show me 'em.
Mocky: no, i agree it won't be worth putting it down. but it's not like
they are fed up with chix and are now like, 'might as well porn.'
they never had
the chix and fantasize of
the real
thing
mircea_popescu: and don't fucking
tell me
that "but oh mp, among
the vast fields of females under 25,
there's a few parts per million for everyone!! you find yours,
they find
theirs" bs. i
take ~anything
that moves.
mircea_popescu: consider
that my productivity is measured in
the parts per MILLION, and
these millions are already EXTREMELY heavily selected for unelective properties, and
then
think of
the sophisitcation of
the machinery working
that conversion rate. you
think joe-from-suburbia can match any of
this ? how.
mircea_popescu: whatever rando
teen can encounter on his own horsepower is not only not worth putting down
the fap-pad, but is SO SHOCKINGLY BELOW
that standard it overwhelms his (admittedly limited) mathematical powers. it's strictly irrepresentably bad.
mircea_popescu: this 1990s-era
theory whereby "the poor onanist, missing out on cheese for chewing
the rinds" was, perhaps, defensible
then.
Mocky: how's he
to know
that?
mircea_popescu: what'd
the boy get, if he put down
the fap-pad and
talked
to little miss sunshine
two doors down ? less satisfying sex
than his own hand can provide and mortgage payments, what else ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps
there's a reason for
the latter ? you want
to propose people chew concrete, you gotta come up with ~SOME~
theory as
to why it'd be good.
mircea_popescu: this is like asking me "how can
there be a difference between chewing risotto and chewing concrete -- i never could bring myself
to
try chewing concrete"
Mocky: how can
there be a difference for fap bois getting 'satisfaction' from porn, and
the statisfaction from something which
they can't bring
themselves
to do, ever?
mircea_popescu: ie,
that exemplary boy would not be bothered
to fuck his mother even if
she were right there spreading an' begging for it (something we suspect her just about desperate enough
to actually do, by now), on account of
the much more interesting happenings on
the screen. in which case, it's strictly impossible an oedipian complex is driving him.
mircea_popescu: 1. admitting
there is such a
thing as a "boy unable
to
talk
to girls", 2. you are stuck admitting
that
this same boy can nevertheless look at any piece of ass he wants, as proven by
the social media event known as "the fappening", 3. in which case you are left
to somehow introduce a putative difference of satisfaction, between doing just
that and
talking
to girls -- 4. because i
tell you i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: Mocky let me write
that sentence down again, i suspect it suffers in notation.
Mocky: sure but what's porn got
to do with what contemporary mother will actually do?
mircea_popescu: (not
that it's
the only avenue, either. plenty available -- for one
thing, contemporary mother will probably very much put out, even if maybe not for her own son, for amanda's
two streets down.
they could have
the old airman's wife club, if
they cared
to.
they do not care
to.)
mircea_popescu: i don't know
that it supports it ; i believe it entirely sinks any possibility of
the alternative you present holding
though.
Mocky: mircea_popescu: how does
that idea support
the daddy worship view?
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> it goes well, getting my blog moved over
to mp-wp. finding a 2.7 compatible
theme <<
The default chops up rather nicely
mircea_popescu: those boys who "can't
talk
to girls" could
talk
to girls just fine -- but
they don't perceive it pays. correctly, because it doesn't. (much like
the ~same boys come here refuse
to
talk
to
the outside, because
they naively extend what worked for
them irl -- except here, it doesn't,
there's not gonna be a pizarro withou
talking
to
the scary outside, nor is
there gonna be a "trilema irc" other
than by people federating servers i
mircea_popescu: compete. which is why
the plaintive whine of
the fappened girls was
that "they have
to
take naked pics, like it or not, it's
the minimal bar
to compete on
the sexual market".
mircea_popescu: what exactly do you imagine is
the difference of satisfaction between "boy unable
to
talk
to girls" who gets
to see any priss' naked ass whenever he can summon
the interest looking at such ass and
talking
to a girl ? what,
that he can make mortgage and alimony payments in
the latter case ? let's not get ridiculous, porn
thoroughly resolved any sexual interest of
the young male, and much better
than reality could ever hope
to
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 15:25 mircea_popescu: i
thought "incest porn" consisted mostly of daddy worship, "if he just stayed with us, i'd even suck his cock".
Mocky: it goes well, getting my blog moved over
to mp-wp. finding a 2.7 compatible
theme
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you happen
to remember which
trilema article explains
the pantsuit attack on functioning systems, "1. expand franchise
to include morons" ?
BingoBoingo: he HAD a firmer grip on
the space
than Erik did
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah,
that dood made some
terrible choices in his life, didn't he.
mircea_popescu: he's
telling me what "the
thing about whores is". and it sounds just like
the
thing about girlfriends,
the oneofwhich is away "at school".
BingoBoingo: Was back when Dooglus had
taken over
the gambling space with one of
the few Honest forum investments
mircea_popescu: "KLYE: Hahaha,
The
thing about whores MP is
they are not easily summon-able. Hard
to get
them over (let alone all of
them in one room) and an absolute bastard
to get
them
to leave once
they are here.. :P"
mircea_popescu: (douchebag
there splattered STILL hasn't gotten over
the simple fact
that no, ~he~'s not good enough lels)
mircea_popescu: there's really not so much possibility of independent
thought outside. manalone ain't got what it
takes
to compete.
BingoBoingo read NZ "ecofascist"
thing last night. Very light reading. Other
than
the clash of cultures butthurt dude very much profiles as a Pantsuitist.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
there's
this very strong "send us your fat, your old, your ugly women [with divorce settlements" blowqing all over arab lands, for 3decade+ by now.
mircea_popescu: matches well
that group of "transsexuals" who evidently enough are so preoccupied with cunt,
they just want one of
their own. about as "transsexual" as
the compulsive gambler who buys himself a slot machine for his "den" is "transeconomic",
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Could also be
the Indian kids watching because
they suspect an old blonde is easier
to imagine
themselves bagging.
BingoBoingo: Or
the alienation angle.
They want
to REALLY by loved by a loving mom, and not have
that cold bitch keeping
them down
BingoBoingo: Maybe
they don't understand what
the fuck fucking is, and "just want
to" really love mom?
BingoBoingo: Or a way of coping with daddy leaving by
trying
to be just as good without having
the good sense
to leave
mircea_popescu: i can't conceptualize pure oedipian complex of raw-raw-ima-fuck-ma without
the other
trappings. soft, female-emulating kids are NOT oedipian, because can not be.
mircea_popescu: or
the psychological
tension produced in
their head by "please daddy, stay, i'll even suck your cock!!!" vs "what, are you a faggot ?!" gets
them
to scapegoat
the evil dumb bitch whose whole fault he left it is in
the first place.
BingoBoingo: Weak evidence, but apparently
the people compiling
the searches like mommy more
than
they like being daddy
BingoBoingo: Well It's first page results,
the promoted stuff. Dunno
there's a methodologically sound way
to investigate an SV
trap
mircea_popescu: ke it better
than chocolate ? maybe
they just
think chocolate icecream fattens, so
they DO NOT ORDER IT for
that reason -- but also can't do w/o icecream, so... vanilla itis.)
mircea_popescu: in ordine sparso : you have no good reason
to suspect
the search works (and plenty of reason
to suspect it does not) ; you have no good reason
to suspect objects returned have any countable relation
to anything (for all you know "12 clones of
the same 1 momstory") ; and you have no reason
to suspect
the mental process discussed would produce countable objects (is a herd of dependopotami ordering vanilla icecream proof
they li
mircea_popescu: i dunno
that
this is methodologically sound. so you've counted... online instances of statement of something on
the basis of a serarch ?
mircea_popescu: i
thought "incest porn" consisted mostly of daddy worship, "if he just stayed with us, i'd even suck his cock".
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Of course
the reasonable explanation is
that incest porn's likely popular because of
the mommy centric lives of
the masses
mircea_popescu: "We wonder, and some Hunter may express wonder like ours, when
through wilderness where London stood, holding
the Wolf in chace he meets some fragment, huge, and
there stops
to guess. What powerful but unrecorded race once dwelt in
that annihilated place ?"
☟︎ BingoBoingo: "Mientras
tanto, el comandante en jefe interino, Marcelo Montaner, fue consultado por la prensa sobre la relación del Ejército y Vázquez, a lo que dijo que no le corresponde responder, según recogió
Telemundo."
mircea_popescu: in other news,
trilema is back
to where comment section > article. only
took a few years (though,
tbh, i did kinda miss it).
mod6: Oh, yeah, looks like I'm way behind on
that article's comments. I'll read up, stop wasting
time.
mircea_popescu: not really been following
the comments discussion huh.
mod6: Haven't
tried. Was
thinking we might make our own net until gossipd, whenever
that might be.
mod6: Update here: Got
the irc server built with
the proper nick/topic lengths, also ratbox-services configured with
the same. Finally got
the ratbox-services
to connect successfully
to
the server, but I'm still doing minor config changes
there.
BingoBoingo: I remember being 3 or 4 in
the grocery store produce section and being struck with
the awareness
that my awareness is stuck in my head alone.
That I couldn't bounce my awareness from head
to head.
There were some very Bush I era fat people and I very much wanted
to will
them stop eating for a few months.
trinque: whoever said it first,
the hypothesis rings
true,
that consciousness is an arrangement of language in
the skull which is by no means human birthright.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm curious whether you're aware of Julian Jaynes. I'm not in a position
to assign credit for who first said self-aware consciousness might not come naturally
to humans, absent learning it from a parent at a critical age.
mircea_popescu: made slightly mroe interesting by it having been written before rather
than after linus went dumb.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2014-08-31 06:24 asciilifeform: i always use
the
term 'calmed down' for
these people. starting from having played 'half life', where
there is a scene of an einsteinesque white coated figure who gets an alien 'headcrab' jump on his head. it
takes roots, he struggles for a while,
then 'calms down' and ambles on as zombie.
mircea_popescu: keks, empire still hard at work secreting imaginary effigies of
the republic
to "defeat" ?