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mircea_popescu: put the fear of god into them, as that guy said.
BingoBoingo: It's amazing how much failure gets passed along as "progress" in USistan
phf: there's a coop yoga place, that designed "as a sort of community wellness center", good thing that the owner owns the building too, because they can't seem to quite break even, and periodically have strategic brainstorm sessions about how to make money
BingoBoingo: Yeah, or write it off as oppreshun because people don't understand her condishuns
ascii_field: phf et al: from my (admittedly very distant) perch, my understanding of usg's engineering problem is as follows
cazalla: posted link as it contains some quotes, that's all
ascii_field: this will be hailed as a great leap forward by the redditard crowd, because difficulty in this altcoin will initially be very low, making their 50-125 appear to 'count for something'
ascii_field: (what commercial chip do you know of that sells as a ~range~ of possible performance ??!!) ☟︎
cazalla: FAQ sorta conflicts with the idea of making money with this thing by selling goods.. "we think payment in BTC is not as big an improvement at the present time over standard ways to purchase macroscopic physical goods."
ascii_field: apparently they have a bastardized wot as well. ☟︎
thestringpuller: ascii_field: they are trying to use mining as a way to hedge your investment by giving you access to inflation as you sell shit for btc.
ascii_field: 'your margins on bitcoin earned by selling digital goods and services with the 21 Bitcoin Computer are likely going to be much better than your margins from bitcoin mined with the 21 Bitcoin Computer. That is because the 21 Bitcoin Computer allows you to use bitcoin as a true digital currency for taking worldwide payment for your APIs. The mined bitcoin just provides continuous liquidity into the system. '
phf: it's interesting to see how fast urbit "turned" both politically and on technical questions. markdown jet? choosing markdown is a copout in itself (there's a naggum rant where he says that plaintext markup languages are designed by people who don't understand NLP), but why would you outsource something so traditional as a text blob parser? seems like an opportunity to showcase your language's text manipulation facilities, etc.
ascii_field: phun phakt: it is not a proven fact that the difficulty of the rsa problem as such is equivalent to that of factoring. ☟︎
ascii_field: 'For instance, bitcoin prevents double-spending with global mining costs in multiple dollars per transaction (as of 2015). Trusted transaction intermediation is an easily implemented service whose cost is a tiny fraction of this. And the transaction velocity of money is high; transactions in land are far more rare.'
ascii_field: 'galaxy, star, planet, moon, comet' << glorious. they retired the naval org chart (before that, prior to mr mold selling out to usg, it was feudal titles of nobility - as in my former 'dukedom') ☟︎
ascii_field: 'With this mechanism, Urbit can update a distributed system (such as our own :talk network), upgrading both applications and protocols, silently without user intervention or notification. ' << itching to try this yet ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla but there's also my unnamed one as well as bucephalus or w/e the recent one got called.
mircea_popescu: anyway, 20% discount because he gets to own 20% of the million he brought himself, as well as of richard's company.
cazalla: spat out all manner of shit that might as well be in another language
asciilifeform: how many boxes might we suppose presently exist that are honestly describable as a bitcoin node ?
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trinque: adlai: as for the one with a sig wrapping a sig, I'll have to update the code first.
adlai: you mean the quoted public key block getting interpreted as a valid one?
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280502 <<< This is the perfect place for someone that perceives pgp as "silly". ☝︎
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for deedbot- from 1 to 2 with note: works as described, not as desired
trinque: tenyks was used as the basis, though I've grown to dislike it and will eventually replace
trinque: er that's sha256 of bundle as the private key
trinque: eats pubkeys or clearsigned messages, farts bundles and transactions to the address derived from the sha256 of bundle as pubkey
mircea_popescu: (spoiler : boy meets girl at insane asylum. neither is a visitor. she "is an artist". he "is writing a book", about DSM, of course, because what better qualifies one as an expert in the field than being insane.)
mircea_popescu: "A Tough Day as Leaders" wait wut, who's symantec the leaders of.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279862 << Banned as drug precursor ☝︎
assbot: A Tough Day as Leaders | Symantec Connect Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZEqL )
cazalla: i still don't understand how or why tiny boxed photos with lense flare and filters is more popular than a proper photo.. could normal photos be just as social?
asciilifeform: 'Recently, however, Brar has fallen out of love with Facebook. He discovered — as Business Insider reported recently — that his Facebook fanbase was becoming polluted with thousands of fake likes from bogus accounts. He can no longer tell the difference between his real fans and the fake ones. Many appear fake because the users have so few friends, are based in developing countries, or have generic profile pictures.' << oh
asciilifeform: doxygen is RETARDED, it takes actual sweat to so much as link to a specific line of src
asciilifeform: i have the thing on screen as we speak.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am curious as to the logic of this inference.
TomServo: Almost as dramatic.
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that treating price as a scalar is loony
asciilifeform given that we had the thread re: 'market depths' today, cannot help but wonder whether a fella with, e.g., 10,000 btc in those times did ~not~ actually see himself as in possession of 40,000 usd
mircea_popescu: whichy, as he said then and i believed then, set him back a few months of dayjob.
asciilifeform: as i understood, a negrate is a kind of radioactive tomb, a warning to others
asciilifeform: as in, what is the logic above
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pete_dushenski: updating any timestamps), as long as the node believes
pete_dushenski: fewer than 10 entries, either as the result of a GETADDR
asciilifeform: as for why this general thing, see mr mold: 'The CS-research bureaucrat's main difficulty is that no one wants to fund bureaucrats. Therefore, he must pretend to be either a creative programmer or a mathematician, preferably both. Since this task is critical to his survival, he is extremely good at it. The bureaucrat has many strategies. But probably his best is to take an area of creative programming and devour it like a locu
pete_dushenski: with hot new titles such as "Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions."
pete_dushenski: figured as much
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279879 << actually as far as i can tell it is ~worse~. the 'small binaries' are bytecode-compiled that runs SLOW AS FUCK ~and~ REQUIRED RUNTIME INSTALLED ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279839 << i just came out of a shop near dc, it sold that same mimolette (as far as naked eye could tell) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:32:40; phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:12:54; phf: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/amazon-tablet-casio-calculator/ << "the pricey calculator" section about new casio s100, which costs $220, about as much ebay hp-16c, but otherwise is a piece of shit
phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees. ☟︎
phf: http://www.wired.com/2015/09/amazon-tablet-casio-calculator/ << "the pricey calculator" section about new casio s100, which costs $220, about as much ebay hp-16c, but otherwise is a piece of shit ☟︎
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279578 <<< nah, that's the first paycoin, this is garza's paycoin (was also first! ignore the 2 in the url) http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/ still, may as well be $1000 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: im writing it up as we speak.
asciilifeform: suspected as much
mircea_popescu: so since i'm now looking at the table of "crypto currencies", as if that's a thing now (hey, why not you know, alternate centers of gravity - why not!!1), here's a table :
mircea_popescu: as the us is not printing new bills, the incentive is not present.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, if you are so much as seen publicly with a bag of cash big enough for a car (much less a house) - immediate jail, unless you have an alibi
asciilifeform: as the ruble, under hruschev
asciilifeform: as per zimbabwe.
mircea_popescu: stuff with two digits should be reminted as coins.
mircea_popescu: the eu still has 500 euro bills, which are about as useful as argentine 100 pesos.
asciilifeform: these are (hard as it may be to believe) separate ministries
asciilifeform: as in, the thing usg universities, 'ngo' complex, etc. finance.
mircea_popescu: im still puzzled as to why all the eth derps imagine they're competing with bitcoin, quoting all sorts of bitcoin news etc, when it's quite clear they're trying to eat the ever shrinking ripple pie.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i'd be actually surprised if anyone managed to use this thing as intended to date.
mircea_popescu: We will make an effort to de-emphasize Skype, and emphasize Gitter as a means of real-time communication for developers. Gitter has the advantages that (i) it’s easier to quickly jump in and participate,"
mircea_popescu: As some initial steps, we are going to do the following:
mircea_popescu: we might as well discuss the heavenly host. purely imaginary nonsense with no practical bearing.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 02:46:22; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278952 << is this meant as some kind of improvement on good ol' yacc ?
mircea_popescu: "The organisation hopes to buy the Concorde currently on display at Le Bourget airport in Paris. If it is successful, the plane will be restored before resuming operation as a private heritage aircraft that will be flown at air displays as well as being available for charter. "
trinque departs to drink and be merry with the couple of highly respectable gentlemen (such as ben_vulpes) he had the honor to meet on his tour in Portland.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yeah white butterfly but broad beans are a good scam as the flowers trick them
cazalla: yes, broad beans as previously mentioned, lots of bees and insects about with the warmer spring weather
asciilifeform: either undersupply of squad cars or - as i assumed - oversupply of policemen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps unrelated (but possibly not), near the minez where i toil there has always been beggars. as in, 24/7, the buggers beg in shifts. for a month or so there was a cosmic anomaly: a passably young gurl. and today she was dragged away screaming by two bicycle cops.
asciilifeform: incidentally, usg imploded libya by vaguely promising 'mansions' - 'your crown-owned official mercedes will become yours! as will your crown-issued chicks!' etc
asciilifeform: pig: 'as much slop as will ever fit in me!'
asciilifeform: the $maxint folks who never see the inside of a courtroom except as plaintiffs
mircea_popescu: so then if you yourself don't accept the thing you propose as proof, as proof, what do you want from me!
asciilifeform: eh that's where i see anybody who doesn't commute to an office as elite
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278952 << is this meant as some kind of improvement on good ol' yacc ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278941 << this is the EXACT same basic thing as debeaking (ask a poultry farmer) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i haven't heard of a fingerprints-bank as of yet.
asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned
phf: asciilifeform: yes, i did some ml a while ago. i used sml/nj as a default compiler, afair it had full language coverage and nice emacs support, i would then port code to mlton or mlkit. mlton has a particularly nice feature set, small binaries, everything's unboxed, gc can be tuned, but it's full program optimizer, so at the time i didn't have the patience to use it as my primary compiler.
mircea_popescu: newton's aunt, einstein'swife and mozart's sister were not as fortunate
mircea_popescu: (it was intended as a sinecure - he chose to make it a job.)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278964 << the way it works, is, approximately, every data structure is treated as something quite like a blockchain. ☝︎
asciilifeform: at least some vegetarians appear to take an interest in 'cell culture meat' as a way of giving the yet-unpersuaded a softer nut to crack on the path to conversion
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 23:06:24; mircea_popescu: the proposition is that the usg exists as a system of stupid people, dedicated to the supporting of stupidity and the containing of the threat (to them) presented by intelligence.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278715 firstly, and most importantly, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1223732 and secondly, most interesting dialogue, not here but in both the livresque as well as actual history of the world, was between two people. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: as in 'v' re: versionatronics.
asciilifeform: and the fewer bits i see as salvageable.
asciilifeform: 'food' shorthand for 'things lacking which might as well eat the bullet now vs later'