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shinohai: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/12/08/world/middleeast/ap-ml-iraq-mosul-ambush.html?_r=0 <<< urban warfare fail for Iraq army
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: random d00d 'from street' could indeed have 'imperial diploma' neh ?
asciilifeform: will mircea_popescu hire a blind d00d? missing trigger finger? or even one of BingoBoingo's patients ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am ill-equipped to describe it. but presumably there is a reason mircea_popescu has a harem, and not a human chick-sized 'cat door' to let in whoever.
asciilifeform: as soon as the cost of failure is >0, selection becomes a thing -- does mircea_popescu not carefully select harem ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu surely was involved in some form of sport, at one time. or knew folks who were. did trainers take the approach 'either body works, or doesn't' ? or did they pick childrenz with the right body type for the contest
asciilifeform: did i miss rsa worst-case difficulty proof emerging from mircea_popescu's well-trained harem ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever translate http://trilema.com/2010/minciuna-cosubstantiala ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 14:44 mircea_popescu has the pleasure to introduce EDLionX , who's chinese, lives in brunei and looks altogether like a great kid (though he isn't a kid!)
asciilifeform: in mircea_popescu's sketch, by what process does 'who' come to exist ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at no point in my head for this thread was 'tuna can', but the headaches of fairly standard industrial robot process over which i presided some years ago
asciilifeform: aite. when mircea_popescu called plumber, did robot show up ?
asciilifeform: this 'total robotization' thing, i can see it as a logical conclusion, but it isn't here yet. e.g., how many robots has mircea_popescu , to date, fucked ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from whence then comes this 'nothing to do' ??
asciilifeform: take mircea_popescu's proverbial 'twerk chick'. her grandmother - was idle ?
asciilifeform: and often i get distinct impression that mircea_popescu is posting from a parallel future on mars : where, e.g., robots are not three orders of magnitude more expensive than well-brainwashed 'work ethic' folx working with bare hands
mircea_popescu: see, when I hire diana_coman to do dev work for eulora, OF FUCKING COURSE she gets to redefine the job on the basis of the title. because before she got it she hadn't seen the code, and after she had, for instance. or for any other reason.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: serious aficionados today have proggies for browsing tree, e.g., 'kombilo'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, it wasn't even that they played 'blitz', but ~memorized game~
asciilifeform: not as such. though mircea_popescu's asian rituals and 'no optionality' thread reminds me of the infamous 'castle tournaments' in jp, where go players would rehearse same game dozens of times in advance
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when my time machine malfunctions and aztec priest eats my heart so that quetzalcoatl will shit the sun back out, it will still be semantic game.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re ^ and the part where the asian folk donated jewelry to motherland's central bank , quite reminiscent of the 'old woman who bought t-34 tank and named it after stalin and her five dead sons' recurring item in ww2
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually BingoBoingo what was that thing vaguely mentioned on qntra recently ? << You'd have to be a bit more specific
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the things to scan, that very often are found: 80 (http), 443 (ssl), and if either found, the page; if ssl -- the cert id strings (see l0gz for how) , and lastly, ftp (yes, believe or now) and telnet greetings. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman https://instagram.fsst1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/15403578_1040577492731424_4285726398984749056_n.jpg << this look like anything to you ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no coding really needed, mind you! at least not for this 'phase' of analysis. but ya sure
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've run into quite a few of these
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nfi, perhaps overzealous ip blok ban
mircea_popescu: diana_coman issue might have been my accidentally leaving field empty.
Framedragger: diana_coman: ah, good idea, thanks :) ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman for some reason it decided i'm anonymous lol. <- fixed; weird though, as I can't seem to be able to reproduce whatever the issue was
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja notice for what he uses '~50% more ram than phuctor' ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 19:16 mircea_popescu: "mice were found in germany which is a country that once invaded the soviet union where lenin introduced electricity which goes through tubes in which tubes today in england most mices live." "OH NOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE!!!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i read the 'google' link, could think of only http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575868 , unique kunstkammer specimen ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is magenta a large qty of price ? << It is a bright kinda fruity color of price
asciilifeform: 'cmp', the other co. linked from trinque's old link, has actual PRICES!111 -- http://cmp.imag.fr/IMG/pdf/cmp_prices_schedule_sept-16.pdf ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from whence comes the notion tha tthey are bridged ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:17 mircea_popescu: anyway, the way "tech" works in the us aka sv is very simply : get the "hipster ass rorbros" on the wagon, then sell them out later for mass market.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: certainly ain't her brudder
shinohai: I use wotpaste w/out browser, thanks to ben_vulpes help a few weeks back
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 00:33 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: you and a few others :P
mircea_popescu: diana_coman for some reason it decided i'm anonymous lol.
mircea_popescu: https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/07/pinboard_turns_seven/ << in other lulz.
asciilifeform: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/the-magic-of-polaroid-and-how-i-rescued-it-from-oblivion/ << linked somewhere from mircea_popescu's random
asciilifeform: and iirc mircea_popescu got an uncleal.tar.gz at some point.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: who's that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same folx happily blew their money on $2 (etc) alt-turds
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i recall, prb was 100% mit-powered
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 16:04 mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing that'd keep them from coming here and giving away the nuclear button to the l1. yes we'd butcher some daughters / most sons, but so what of it - some'd survive. even the cod knows this much, that the correct reaction is to throw the meat at the knife, rather than to try and protect it.
phf: ben_vulpes: that archive has like dozen of access points, half of them regularly disappearing, a project for a lisp aficionado would be to archive it before it disappears completely ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: btw if you are writing a differ, familiarize yourself with needleman-wunsch algo, most extant difftrons for some reason unknown to me do not use it
phf: but so that it's not just noise, here's one thing that i used as a jumping point, http://foldr.org/~michaelw/log/programming/lisp/diff-sexp there's also a cmu archive of differs, including a working common lisp diff implementation (with a different output though) http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/lisp/code/tools/src_cmp/0.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand plox re the 'expired knowledge'
phf: mircea_popescu: i really hope i'm not preventing ben_vulpes from hacking, i have a few previous failed attempts at doing this though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in all fairness, i massaged 'v' quietly for quite some time before posting
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 21:46 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579050 << "image" as in "lisp image"? the reason i ask is because reindenting blocks of code for a multiple-value-bind makes unnecessary patch noise.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-07#1579283 << ben_vulpes please consider posting the example of this you ran into ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 22:11 phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diffing sexprs is an attractive idea for other purposes but it still gotta ~work~ with your lisp (and all conceivable readermacroizations thereof, which is harder)
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't know how to solve that problem, but "i know, sexp will help us!" is not. you basically need to redesign a bunch of things about reader, have a custom save format (that will look closer to (DEFUN FOO () (IF BAR QUX (PROGN ...)))). sexp nature will help you ~a bit~, but like mp said it's closer to "let's save AST", because sexp don't preserve nearly enough required info ☟︎
asciilifeform: i was about to phrase it as 'output of v transformation must always remain obvious to kindergartener' but mircea_popescu has it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: by now you probably understood that 'diff sexpr' doesn't necessarily win, because, e.g., commonlisp sexpr can involve reader macros and look like, say, this -- http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha have a marine diesel
phf: ben_vulpes: yeah, lisp image. fwiw if you're trying to ignore whitespace (since you're going to lose that information in a sexp, unless you preserve that information, in which case you will have to patch it same way), then diff already does it: it's called ignore whitespace (-b or -w or -B depending on usecase)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought you sold proggies for these, and was forced to use latest os etc
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 14:31 asciilifeform: if the next lappy comes with spiked anal cone, what, ben_vulpes won't buy?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 12:33 mircea_popescu: well, technically he asked alf, so there is that. none of our bidnis :D
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 16:42 mircea_popescu: must has indirection! java good asm bad ; unicode good ascii bad ; usd good bitcoin bad ; "signal" "tor" whatever good rsa pgp etc bad and so on it goes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aah found it, nm
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 12:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that link dun werk! https://archive.is/lzImt
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski maybe they were confused as to how "kid lick ton" translates into chinese ?
mircea_popescu: and in other thinspiration / ana : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/%D0%94%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F.jpg
asciilifeform: openssl s_client -showcerts -connect 77.93.194.69:443
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated EDLionX 1 << One of the sharpest Eulora noobs to date.
deedbot: diana_coman rated EDLionX 1 << hard-working euloran noob
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if they're anything like the earlier 'bitpay' scam, they hold 0 btc
asciilifeform: if the next lappy comes with spiked anal cone, what, ben_vulpes won't buy? ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nice message and all, but just fyi #bitcoin-otc seems still alive
Framedragger: asciilifeform: related: https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/
asciilifeform: welcome, ben_vulpes , to the dour world of amd opteron et al, where 'working box is moarprecious than gold, because gold is merely an element in mendeleev table and you can always get more, but there will only get fewer boxes, and quickly'
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 09:04 ben_vulpes: https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2016/12/6/milking-the-iphone << nowhere mentioned "fancy-ass nixy laptops for hipster-ass rorbros"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 13:23 mircea_popescu: soo... anyone want to sell me bitcoin for $100 paypal ? o.O
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'd recommend instead to use standard text formatting scheme (slime's, say) for all lispolade.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 05:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is there an argument for vetoing out-of-hand a v/patch implementation that diffs at the sexpr level rather than the line level?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pgpgram re who/where
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do it
jurov: There's also possibility I misunderstood ben_vulpes, ofc.
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd definitely like to see such thing. otherwise i don't get this obsession with marking stuff "halal" and "haram".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is this one of yours ?
zKawaiiKittyz: this has been a rising problem I've noticed -_-
zKawaiiKittyz: to life O_O
a111: Logged on 2016-12-06 21:10 mircea_popescu: pretty sure the guy reads the log with some sort of frequency.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the poison part was never the difficulty -- e.g., ricin, is even more specific 'cellular' poison
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> i dunno, output a list of 10k items ? <
asciilifeform: what, in the eyes of mircea_popescu , would count as 'serious result' in subj field ??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: examples like your ant abound. consider the infamous sphex wasp
jurov: anyway, if it's not optimization, what does mircea_popescu call the its-not-doing-drunk-walk phenomenon?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what are your expectations of 'data type' ?