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cazalla: danielpbarron: he's never worked for a living in his life <<< maybe he can get a job as a postman because he never fails to deliver
punkman: danielpbarron: why the hardon for you?
punkman: ruin_dpbs_life: danielpbarron: you're a dead man i'm going to fucking do whatever it takes to hurt you << lolwut
xanthyos: to all USG people reading this log i am not antistatist or anti FIAT and i will turn states evidence on danielpbarron
ruin_dpbs_life: danielpbarron: you're a dead man i'm going to fucking do whatever it takes to hurt you
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: (your setup - doesn't)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what's more, this is guaranteed not to happen on the final box, because we'll actually use the 128M eeprom for the os.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you can just put a blank flash drive in the top usb port with an empty directory 'revert' and the thing boots up factory default << this is not a feature of the machine, but of the modified 'uboot' installed by the script you used.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: it's a possibility though, right? << yeah, but from all i've seen it's a very remote one.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: is there any evidence to suggest that << nope.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron stop oppressing dragons with your self-unaware patriarchical gender stereotypes.
mod6: danielpbarron: i don't have any evidence to support that.
cazalla: danielpbarron, seems obvious eh
ben_vulpes: but as to danielpbarron's pointer...
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: on top of that, x86-32 (yes) only
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: haiku << yet another 'c os', but with questionable posixness and 'we're different because we're special' derp
decimation: danielpbarron: yes, it is amazing that nobody has done this
hegemoOn: thank you danielpbarron
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.BingoBoingo.3:f897d81412340d00fd94bd16bd7e0a9848c61da2d8e8ce69d467ff19a732aa2f
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
asciilifeform: danielpbarron:
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: just looks like a slapfight from over here is all i'm saying.
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.justusranvier.-2:60908b3a5891c5ee52759dcff6a4e3fe099511f500c40082b9f5cef4e5dfa374
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: not so simple (doable, though) - it has to run from rom. you almost certainly must use 'buildroot.' i have a 'buildroot' config that grinds out a kernel and a userland, but said kernel fails to boot and produces no output to /dev/ttyS0 - despite being configured to do so. evidently the support for Marvell chips in the mainline 3.xx kernels is bogus.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: in essence, like most supposedly 'gpl compliant' commercial products, the compliance is a total and unabashed crock of shit. <<< funny how much stock rms puts in the nude declaration, huh.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: and there is no practical way to separate the 'flies from the cutlets' here. who here has even 'tried' building a lin. kernel with -not one- driver for hardware you don't have or want?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: linux 2.6.x kernel is a mega-turd. and while there remains a single line therein which does not execute during the normal operation of bitcoind-on-pogo, i will maintain that this is true.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in essence, like most supposedly 'gpl compliant' commercial products, the compliance is a total and unabashed crock of shit.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i have not been able to build the linux that comes with pogo. the included patches do not apply cleanly.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: but try to understand a more fundamental principle here. eventually this needs to turn into a system with -no- extraneous parts. as in, i take a stick and point to a byte, and you are able to tell me why it is there.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: 128M of eeprom are more than enough to store whatever you want, but these things eat up ram footprint (both by themselves and when read-cached)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: those can't be stored on /dev/sda1 << absolutely not. node must be self-contained and able to format a brand-new disk entirely on its own, when plugged in.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the latter is almost -readable- in length
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: linux kernel and minimal userland are massive compared to netbsd
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron this was back when reddit mostly consisted of people who had bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nobody ever read all of reddit. so it's okay : failure by design.
mircea_popescu: or i guess i'll ask danielpbarron to include instructions on how to arbitrarily set it.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: Guest85903, just use the name that your mother and father gave you; honor them. << not a bad principle.
davout: danielpbarron: it's ok to have sidechains!
davout: danielpbarron: i heard gavin andresen wants to add a couple extra chapters to it, for moar adopshun
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.danielkrawisz.-2:9143f035179316633074c1e4c4ce2798d56d610b61fc201aa50d947c24d8451e
mircea_popescu: bitcoinquestions in general a machine is secure if its secure. linux is not a magic pill. as danielpbarron suggests, not connecting it to the internet helps a lot, but also makes it more difficult.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: better than refreshing a faucet << pretty much teh point.
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2015 06:06:54; danielpbarron: hah same here
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: which is a deal-killer
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: netbsd on pogo << last i checked, lacked support for internal eeprom
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: as in how many ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: blocks?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron was it 2gb space ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron for the sake of sanity, can you proceed closer to asciilifeform's original ?
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts, danielpbarron had a normal pogo
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can oyu check an report ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: so possibly you got a slightly more recent fw than i
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: yes, but it was able to boot from it after.
mircea_popescu: yeh he booted the drive. did you danielpbarron ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you installed arch to the drive and booted to it, didntcha
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: nope
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: when thing powers up, it boots from the eeprom
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: mine - did not
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: your 'pogo' booted from external devices without replacing uboot ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron "You can throw out the packaging and manual; we won't be needing those." << gotta love the justifiable pride the most serene republic's flag elates out of people.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron has probably noticed that pieces of 'systemd' crash every few hrs. on that box
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane. << quite
the_scourge: danielpbarron: nixos has a pretty good balance of minimal and predictable (even for noobs), have you considered that?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: this gives you a rather heavyweight linux - with systemd, even.
danielpbarron: here's a rough draft of pogo instructions: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt / criticisms welcomed!
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: my 0.7.2 node took 2 or 3 weeks to full sync << no he's right, it's what it used to be.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: of course it will crash. esp. if you built it with max=750 (as in the patch) but with 250 likewise
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the_scourge: danielpbarron: which block did it change behavior?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Looks like he wasn't
danielpbarron: you can see exactly how i built it here http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: what version of Bitcoin are you running?
mod6: thanks for the updates danielpbarron
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/patch_test.txt
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: 'install' is 'all install_docs install_sw'
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: read the makefile
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: that gets me two up on you
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what version of openssl ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: for 'pogo' ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: neato
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you have a wedged portatron?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: danielpbarron's was, no ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes didja get on the part of teh log where the entire d&t think you were discussing with danielpbarron etc is dispelled ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I wouldn't know where to start on that danielpbarron is having some sort of twitter conversation with Weev and just wanted to suggest there might be use cases for the OTR thing.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/563512344308117504 << OTR and ephemeral keys have use cases
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wow nice find
ascii_field: danielpbarron: no, it should -not- be using any libs installed on your box
ascii_field: danielpbarron: it's all wrong
mike_c: danielpbarron: can you link me to it
mike_c: danielpbarron: looks like you are missing zlib, no?
danielpbarron: ;;later tell asciilifeform any suggestions? this output is from your auto.sh -> http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-error.txt
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron <command-line>:0:0: warning: "_FORTIFY_SOURCE" redefined << that doesn't sound so good.
punkman: danielpbarron: this one? "bitcoin-armv5-bastard includes the 'orphanage burner'"
punkman: danielpbarron: with orphanage burner?
trinque: danielpbarron: you give it your key; it checks the web api, adds the key to the keyring if you're in l1/l2
ben_vulpes: oh gosh don't do that danielpbarron
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