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mircea_popescu: wow / eve / etc : people go through the early game, master it, then can't move on to the logical next phase so they just quit. so now AAA studio is forced to salvage broken game that broke their playerbase through... oh shit, incentives. ie, inflation, ie, "we'll give you free level 60 characters". because guess what, the inflation was actually better than death, and their success at doing what they wanted to do (prevent bots
mircea_popescu: which incidentally... it really makes me chuckle at the predicament of "AAA" studios. so first, they make a broken game (broken here defined as, not-neutral state-evolution-graph) ; because their game is broken, they have to forbid bots - not just in form, but in practice. then if they don't manage to forbid them too efficiently they die everquest/diablo 3 style, inflation. but if they do manage to forbid them, they die like
mircea_popescu: shinohai you know once you get half decent at the metagame you don't have to baby it. i spend about 10-20 minutes a day changing bot diapers is all.
mod6: it's great isn't it?
shinohai: I haven't watched it yet :/
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's supposed to be "funny" ; the only problem being that cancerous fags can't possibly be funny. not no matter how hard they try ; not just because they try too hard.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i can't help but notice the fascination with this mysterios ceo figure in the usg.pinoy dept.
mircea_popescu: they got borges, and that's good enough. what if he's president for life of an item that doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: the list of things modern derp doesn't realise could do because never had opportunity to find out is long indeed.
mircea_popescu: phf back in her younger days chet held open kitchen for the girls of the neighbourhood + some foster kids ; because she could cook, and wasn't an idiot - which was more than could be said about the respective girls' mothers/grandmothers.
mircea_popescu: and the reason for this being, evidently, that they didn't get kitchen-socialized in due time.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 23:37 mircea_popescu: here we sit wondering about "garburators", which i dun have, and dun particularly want ; meanwhile he sits around with roach nests deliberately placed in the house, something the soviets cca 1966 wouldn't have allowed.
mircea_popescu: this "monogamous relationship living in block of flats with 50 sqft kitchen" thing is nonsense in ways the victims don't even grasp.
mircea_popescu also never uses and doesn't like the machine dishwashers. they miss spots ; competent woman can do much better job much faster ; get her gloves, teach her how to etc.
mircea_popescu: here we sit wondering about "garburators", which i dun have, and dun particularly want ; meanwhile he sits around with roach nests deliberately placed in the house, something the soviets cca 1966 wouldn't have allowed. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now let's point out that the categorical differnce you apparently hallucinate midway through this single object ain't there.
mircea_popescu: (yeah people kitchen-restored both of those! people tried to run the dacias on toluene, you can't imagine how industrious socialists get.)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-15: [20:30:04] <ben_vulpes> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542439 << so i've done my own digging and asked a few others to dig as well, and i can't figure out what "the code" i'm supposed to have is. grepping for 'footnote' turns up zilch in my copy of mp-wp. throw me a bone here?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160915/#515 << apparently i didn't include plugins. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/mp-plugins.tar.gz contains footnote and recent comment, which is all trilema uses ; and all i expect you'd ever sanely want, except if you're in that dubious spot where caching makes sense, but not on a deeper level in the stack you might want a caching plugin. altogether dubious, this, for technically apt peo
phf: in fact, it's best to treat interactions with u.s. infrastructure as a trip to the zone from пикник на обочине (or stalker for en readers), where rules of physics don't apply, nothing is what it seems and you're not guaranteed to come back alive
ben_vulpes: boggling, isn't it
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: most contractors are idiots and don't know how to build a fucking house.
asciilifeform: it is only possible if the ground - isn't
ben_vulpes: which shouldn't even be possible if the circuit were disconnected.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes if you're the sort of fella who buys houses and builds compartments for the dogs and sons and etc. (and you are), buy a fishing set, you won't regret.
ben_vulpes: could, don't really want to.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes doesn't own a fishing rod and line ?
ben_vulpes: the particularly annoying thing about this current house is that i don't see a clean way to install the garburator.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542439 << so i've done my own digging and asked a few others to dig as well, and i can't figure out what "the code" i'm supposed to have is. grepping for 'footnote' turns up zilch in my copy of mp-wp. throw me a bone here? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: scavenge heat, don't suck power off the main shaft.
asciilifeform: i didn't mention the cost of paint jobs and debarnacling etc. either.
ben_vulpes: i don't know what you're looking at for those zeros
asciilifeform: if you don't trust, then no deal.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it also isn't clear to me why anyone would want to walk around with a paper privkey.
asciilifeform: btc doesn't even make sense in the given picture.
asciilifeform: and you haven't been 'paid in btc' until the coins land in addr for which you have sole control of privkey.
asciilifeform: again you won't
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: you won't.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it isn't that the shit stinks less, but that latrine with pig is educational, vs the other kind.
thestringpuller: really!?!?!? just because one latrine is dirt and the other is marble you don't care about the smell of the shit?
mircea_popescu: the part you don't seem to at all grasp is that ~nobody cares.
asciilifeform: if i had time, i'd buy the thing and publicly rape it (differential power probe) but i haven't the time. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Can I re-seal after breaking the center? No. A permanent change is made inside the flash memory of the processor.' << which i can't remove and replace with identical-looking one, containing same procedure, exactly why...? ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: don't listen to him, he's insane
ben_vulpes: shan't
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't clear that the thing needs to be a plugin
mircea_popescu: such pravoslavnic folk and they can't find themselves a stable situation.
adlai hasn't had a ~good~ deed poem in his entire life
trinque hasn't had a good deed poem in a while
asciilifeform: adlai: that didn't actually save anything...
asciilifeform: phf and possibly other folks will find v. toth's ~entire www interesting. it is one of these quite educational but at same time mega-depressing 'these people aren't made any moar' affairs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think we did, no.
Framedragger: phf: aha, bitsavers, noted, thanks! alf's archive.org copy should do just fine.. there's even plain text format, doesn't appear to be garbled
phf: indeed, and it's also very idiosyncratic, to the point where i don't think anyone but Fare can work on it. on a whim i switched my system to asdf 1.* (last release before peanut gallery took asdf over) and not surprisingly everything works, ~except~ when project explicitly relies on asdf3 functionality, which is exclusively test hooks, uiop and hardcoded "needs asdf>3" requirements
phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542326 << i suspect that we didn't actually disagree on this to begin with. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and if you CAN'T do this, then the solution is to go, read. i also can't speak maori, but this doesn't mean i sit around and make "maori sounding" noises.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542190 << asdf is the "system" manager, wouldn't be needed in scrollcode world ☝︎
asciilifeform: why are you eating in the latrine pit thestringpuller ? you ain't a pig
phf: asciilifeform: being updated in a sense that we can't have a meaningful v conversation, since your b-t is from 2009, mine is from 2011 and trinque's is from 2016 most likely. all logbot has is a pointer to "cl-log". for all i know tomorrow's version of cl-log is not even going to have b-t in ir
mod6: i've never even seen his cookbook, but perhaps his doesn't have more than one project in a dir. but indeed, ya, you can do that. even if 'tis ill advised.
asciilifeform: so long as it lives in separate file that is recognizably same every time it is used, i can't think of any reason to disagree
mircea_popescu: libraries ; the modern coder's excuse for not reading code. "it's a LIBRARY!!11!!! dude. you don't read that!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as it is i sit on a raft, all day, every day, in ocean of 'things we really shouldn't have to have had'
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 01:21 mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 01:21 mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals.
mod6: so that's why it didn't respond.
mod6: adali: thanks for trying to test, but you don't have L1 trust with deedbot
adlai: it didn't respond to a request in PM
tb0t: Projects: UCI | t | trb | v
mod6: oh, no wonder tb0t was freaked out earlier. i hadn't updated it for deedbot's new control chars.
mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: and lol, the point is well beyond taken that you don't approve of the 'init' function.
phf: log. so at some point we were in "log according to btcbase" situation. with the recent move to multiple bots and more importantly multiple logs, we now have "log according to ..." model, which we can still though attempt to reconcile. once we move to gossip there can't even be a talk of single log. it's always "log according to whoever heard and relayed it" by design. ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: these folks get painfully old don't they.
trinque: asciilifeform: saw that yesterday; angles for "only NSA can save us" doesn't it?
phf: i kind of want to believe that dogen wasn't a bore, nor a stickler, but otherwise their goals are unrelated to each other.
phf: madam blavatski and her followers did a lot of damage for years to come. it was literally in her writing that original meaning doesn't matter, as long as the translation sounds cool (there's a rationalization for why that somehow supposed to make sense) ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: one of the reasons why this is so difficult to teach is that there are no heroes in it. even someone like deryagin, who was respected for renouncing his polywater thing and sinking own career, was really a case of 'ok i set this fire, and put it out'. but there are no heroes in 'ok i have no great invention, won't even bother saying to anyone, and will happily die in obscurity fixing shoes'
phf: further obscurantism comes from people who don't see clearly, but in a markov chain thinking relay what they heard before "of course that's how it is, i heard it from joe, and it was tired then, what dogen is actually saying is this flowery shit i pulled out of my ass"
a111: Logged on 2015-04-18 02:49 trinque: Citizenfive | What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. << I used to think this; lately I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
trinque: I don't see any point for the whimsical obfuscation
asciilifeform: this is a great story, and if the original wasn't this, it ought to have been!1111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but i thought the chick is lazy, won't cook or clean.
phf: people who can't clearly visualize a cause and effect graph trying to do science. dogen is laughing at them all the way from 13th century ☟︎
pete_dushenski: 'your mother isn't my mother' (tm)(r)
mod6: <+shinohai> Shouldn't it be `!%^^^xxx?` instead? << what do you mean by this?
shinohai: Shouldn't it be `!%^^^xxx?` instead?
mircea_popescu: well we don't know anyone can supress gag enough to think ; but otherwise oubliette was on ceiling.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541570 << fix't. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#192 << note that the spec doesn't mention a particular one, neither in log or on trilema.
Framedragger: ah! i didn't know it was large. i see..
Framedragger: BUT i didn't check if it was actually the same AS number
Framedragger: supersechi: keep in mind that just spitting out single words doesn't usually help. use judgement to selectively quote essential details while keeping it short!
Framedragger: supersechi: upload it to both http://keys.gnupg.net/ and https://sks-keyservers.net/ - they will propagate keys amongst themselves but just in case you don't want to wait
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541639 << not only is this true, but you won't be seeing scientifically accurate nanosecond timing in a konsooomer box at all. the physical clock is not up to it. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 09:51 Framedragger: why is Vexual banned - http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522329 - why no bard. you know tor irc channels used to have this skruffy character who connected from some small shanty town in deep russia and spoke broken english. thing is, he found and reported on a ton of deeper bugs, i mean like delicate race conditions that don't normally appear and shit. he claimed to have used win98 and complained all the time that tor broke on win98
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541600 << i can't get past the wtf. i mean, why not give king solomon , or frederick the great, 'the nuke button' just as well ! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: people dun wanna publish, they shouldn't publish. if they publish, it's published.
mircea_popescu: so i don't actually need to know what it was archived as.