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asciilifeform: trinque: manifest is done, i built on it in the experimental item linked earlier
asciilifeform bbl:meat
asciilifeform: i'ma guess it's on mod6's conveyor already.
asciilifeform: for nao -- simply log'em. ☟︎
asciilifeform: right nao this set consists 99.999....+% of rando liquishit.
asciilifeform: ( see linked thread. )
asciilifeform: imho set of addrs advertised actively with peers oughta consist solely of 1) people noad operator manually -addnode'd + 2) peers who actually sent in valid blox in recent past
asciilifeform: i'ma post some grep ProcessBlock debug.log > whogave.txt once it runs for a spell.
asciilifeform: prelude to actually rebaking the coad that does the address-collectin' (so to prefer folx who actually supply blox, to the dead weight people ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: this experiment will work 9000x better once there's several trb folx other than asciilifeform doing it, cuz learning 'block x came from... this-here trb noad' dun tell me much, it'd be useful to know where ~he~ got it, etc
asciilifeform: currently not so hard to see who is 1 of us and who not
asciilifeform: prolly oughta also print the peer version hdrs, but that can go in the regrind.
asciilifeform: currently live on zoolag.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: item's been on conveyor for a while, will be interesting to shed some light on who's hero and who's zero.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000312.html and the predecessor ( mod6's http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000311.html ) into 'experimental'
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers!!! http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000312.html << . ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hrm, pasting the txt worked...
asciilifeform: and i used the www box !!
asciilifeform: grr jurov , 'Signature verification on clearsigned text failed, discarding. Review the message in your sent mail folder for wordwrap or similar mutilations of clearsigned text.'
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers ! trb node zoolag will be down for approx 20min for experimental patch bringup, starting 5min from nao.
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: bit of pest control work
asciilifeform: mod6: lol funnily enuff metoo
asciilifeform: gotta admit i like esthlos's summary page
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, the local telecom monopoly where i get me fiberz bought what remained of aol. so finally the ancient nightmare is in a sense troo, asciilifeform is 'subscribed to aol' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where's lower than aol, nao i'm curious
asciilifeform: y'mean ~to~ ?
asciilifeform: but email is rapidly converging to ~= aol
asciilifeform: could be worse, i suppose they could all have been on aol...
asciilifeform: e.g. most recently, BingoBoingo's customs crapolade
asciilifeform: ( e.g. to/from vendors )
asciilifeform: lesser mortals still stuck with occasional emailism
asciilifeform: well, knuth managed it
asciilifeform: ( i dun have a corps of janissaries to fetch letters from hitler containing the ssl magic of-the-day )
asciilifeform: i actually bothered to peek in the logs on that box, it gets confronted with ssl crapola handshakes from the receiver's end and evidently doesn't spit out the hitler-approved answer
asciilifeform: ~0 to do with spam in the usual sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure their actual objective was simply to herd the remaining folx who can't entirely get away from emailism, into the google/microshit corrals
asciilifeform: the jwzs destroyed emailism 100%.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855439 << i found last night that ~nuffin from my old squirrelmail workhorse actually gets delivered any moar. prolly for this reason. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( 20 eaten by ip hdr )
asciilifeform: gives you that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855126 # tho ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw i'll add that if you use raw ip, you 'win' 8 'phree' bytes ( that normally eaten by udp header )
asciilifeform: 1492, 'sailed the oceans blue...'
asciilifeform: heh if we had the giant fpga..
asciilifeform: (~1kB)
asciilifeform: so you could potentially even get away with signed-x-inside-encrypted-y
asciilifeform: currently seems to me that nuffing below ~1400 actually frags on modern irons
asciilifeform: ( hence why i put that 512 as the initial guess for Payload_Size )
asciilifeform: which in so far as i can tell, doesn't frag.
asciilifeform: at any rate this is not particularly catastrophic , all you need is 512byte
asciilifeform: possibly i misread http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855464 , but gotta point out that the padding is not somehow separable from the message prior to decrypt, it is 'in' that final 4096bit output of the modexp ☝︎
asciilifeform: where 'result will *always* be a block of 4096 bits (512 octets). Each such resulting block can hold at most 1960 bits (245 octets) of the original message' etc
asciilifeform: ( or see diana_coman's rsa walkthrough, http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/15/eucrypt-chapter-10-oaep-with-keccak-a-la-tmsr/ )
asciilifeform: ( and pretty sure we had the thread )
asciilifeform: i know of no pill against this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even in naked (padless) rsa , sig is always of ~equal bitness to modulus
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855437 << the headache is that a 4kb-key sig is ~4kb... ☝︎
asciilifeform: i think i get it tho
asciilifeform: strictly former
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ain't brunei 7000km east...
asciilifeform brb,meat
asciilifeform: to mathematize : if the validity of a received datum can depend not only on past , but on ~future~ data, you have a 'to allcomers' ram giveaway. precisely like the 'orphanages' etc
asciilifeform: it's what gives ddosism its teeth.
asciilifeform: one of the dozen foundational idjicies of the arpa people , was permitting 'allcomers' to clog up routing tables with state.
asciilifeform: i grasp that sometimes cannot avoid stateful protocol, but the state belongs in the multi-opteron pc running the user proggy, not in the 32kB of misfortunate routers along the way
asciilifeform: ( sans fragging, it's entirely stateless, like bare ip )
asciilifeform: udp is in fact quite popular for ddos, and the fragging mechanism that drags folx into supporting stateful reassembly is the major enabler there
asciilifeform: ( + http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-30#1218171 , and earlier ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he was prolly thinking of the http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-30#1218223 threads ☝︎
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: in other noose, BingoBoingo's crate seems to be moving
asciilifeform: ( these already , not counting i suppose mircea_popescu's chix, cannot escape anywhere, the 'education' mutilated'em into permanent usaschwitz inmates )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re the loans lulz -- i regularly wonder when they'll dispense with the pretense and finally herd the debtors into work gulag
asciilifeform: right, but iirc it was some outrageous sum, that made mircea_popescu's torpedo look economical
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc uy's cost mega-moolah
asciilifeform: Mocky: you're a likeable fella... get'em to like you
asciilifeform: if BingoBoingo doesn't pull off the ransoming of the crate, it will have to happen asap
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm pinching pennies in case i gotta do an expedition in near term
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: mod6: i'll do it if absolutely nobody else wants to , but stretched rather thin, so give it coupla days if you can
asciilifeform: and sits down in budget. ( nuke subs are prolly out, for the time being )
asciilifeform: not even necessarily in jest. i'm not averse to using absolutely anyffing, if it worx.
asciilifeform: mod6: if there were a place within 500km of BingoBoingo with sane customs regime, he'd be there already, neh.
asciilifeform: but i suspect not a winner, they do what, 500 km.
asciilifeform: more practically, usb stix over pigeon.
asciilifeform: i.e. you'd have to ship'em out of BingoBoingostan in boxes. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and gotta be manually transported in the other
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the tricky bit , as i understand, with those, is that they only work in 1 dir
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: homing pigeons might work...
asciilifeform: and i'ma never recommend to anyone the use of heathen 'rsa chips'. not even because they all, without exception, work with only 'toy' key lengths, but because srsly wtf. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( as it is, ice40 won't even hold ~one~ 4096bit adder ! )
asciilifeform: Mocky: in the past i attempted a fpga rsa also. sadly the 'ice40' would need to be about 250x bigger, for it to be bakeable
asciilifeform: Mocky: the constant in that O(1) unfortunately matters.
asciilifeform: Mocky: in theory you already have rsa with Ch. 4 . but nowhere near line speed.
asciilifeform: oh it is
asciilifeform: Mocky: it will once i get one going with inline asm'd addition/shifts.
asciilifeform: ( on sw , the sun ddoses you 24/7/365, as well as washington )
asciilifeform: ( and really quite different thread... )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: very diff set of problems, there
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whole reason ddos even exists as a concept is the short-sighted idjicy of arpa designers. i'd like to avoid repeating it.