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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd like ada then
mircea_popescu: but oh, no, "you gotta make this hacky flagging scheme to show us what to paralellize!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in that most effective software isn't public.
mircea_popescu: and srsly, what, it's my job to tell the processor how to process ? that's why it's a processor, let it process!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you gonna explain how the grocery thing relates ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no threads, no multicpu
asciilifeform: even mcl has threads.
mircea_popescu: phf fwiw i believe "threads" are a miserable kludge, so i can see the angle.
phf: lisp's attitude to threads for a decade now has been "now let's see how this whole `threading' thing plays out, and maybe come up with a solution in a decade or two"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is here committing the 'economics is what i see at the grocery counter' fallacy
mircea_popescu: brits had a very similar problem, "our tank is very well made" "how does it do in the sand ?" "WHAT?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: without importing all the battlefield lulz on the topic : it is rather important for lisp to be used in ACTUAL applications, as opposed to conceptual.
phf: the web part is fine, but i want a bit more reliability out of a bot, maybe move it into a separate process even. this whole ascii's "does cmucl even has proper threads" is biting me in the ass
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446818 << phf tell you what, ima hold up changing trilema links until you're happy with it then. you say. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: let's also put this in teh record "S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "50504.3351821","min": "50143","max": "51211","vsh": "437407","vsa": "22090949739","cnt": "15"}, "7d": {"avg": "49898.0738545","min": "49008","max": "51211","vsh": "1288832","vsa": "64310234322","cnt": "95"}, "30d": {"avg": "49515.8488864","min": "41707","max": "53882","vsh": "22173235","vsa": "1097926553583","cnt": "1517"}}
mircea_popescu: possibly might be an idea to eschew counting references to a log line made by the same author ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446775 << makes sense. hopefully the holders will be kind enough to get out of their positions amiably. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: did a woman you cared about ever manage to get a satisfyingly loud and wet quarrel witcha ?
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of phf from 2 to 3 << Teh desire has been expressed and heard!
mircea_popescu: $rate phf 3 Teh desire has been expressed and heard!
mircea_popescu: lol this guy
asciilifeform: and the timestapmz
asciilifeform admits that he misses the old checkerboard patter in the logz
phf: have some people transcribe it
phf: oh that old old log is not there yet, and will probably go in within a month or so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he doubtlessly failed to understand both his capabilities and his responsibilities, until later, as is usually the lot of people.
phf: right, because endpoint for the log is an iso8601 date
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/01-02-2013 << fanci that ?!
phf: right, but that will redirect you to /log/2012-02-01 because i like iso 8601
asciilifeform: ( i was not tuned in yet, so i have nfi )
asciilifeform: did anyone actually give half a fuck what he thought ?
danielpbarron: mildly annoying that old log url and new log url have date in reverse order, but i guess a script can hack around this trivially
phf: so the way it used to address is /?date=06-04-2016, i think that should still happen when you hit /log/
mircea_popescu: you'll hafta excuse flurry of nonsense, trying&figuring out new clothes.
mircea_popescu: phf word. also, a way to go to arbitrary date should be... oh nm, i can just hack teh url.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the consacrated words being under the dragon. "i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage X.". with or without the banishment rider.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446782 << it is not clear that fella had unilaterel workfunction-twiddling auctoritas ☝︎
phf: it could, but i'd rather not have random durps hitting the domain and then hitting the logs until i'm certain of logs ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah is ok now that i know wtf.
mircea_popescu: phf i tell you ?! oh oh! i c.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, not enough content below to have the page scroll to the right spot
phf: mircea_popescu: now that's just crazy talk, the behavior is identical to old log
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once it became obvious they can gpu mine. that discovery.
mircea_popescu: hmm this is odd, clicking on your link lists http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446781 as first on my screen ☝︎
asciilifeform still snarfing up the logz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you linked to the strippers whatever ?
mircea_popescu: so iirc the way this was solved before is, phf makes the page TITLE of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446757 read "phf: i was frankly surprised you managed to produce them manually" and then trinque makes deedbot fetch the TITLE of all pages and this solves reading loglines into chat. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-06#1446757 << guy reads teh logs. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: human memory being obviously the most directly augmentable of all the high cognition functions.
mircea_popescu: i want it to be a flag in the search, so as to search IN IT.
danielpbarron: nah i'm just doing it manually because it's only a month old ; but it'll be really easy for you to do it that way as the urls are virtually identical
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-top-refs << this is a splendidly useful tool, actually!
danielpbarron is currently updating blog posts to reference new log instead of old one
mircea_popescu: phf: well, so far i've succeeded in breaking annotations phf: or maybe not phf: well, something's working anyway <<< bwahahaha check out the ada-lisper at work! :D
mircea_popescu: phf: incidentally there's a bug in ref counter, only finds one ref << thanks danielpbarron :D
mircea_popescu: how about we get a gentleman's agreement to piss on him and his "discovery" - i know a lot more actual gentlemen in banking and finance than in computing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "gentleman agreement" for the love of all that's slippery and wet.
mircea_popescu: phf: adlai: i'm half expecting bot to fall over at any second, you want it to spew log lines, you crazy, mang << no, seriously, this is a must. deedbot must say the logline when it sees the reference, there's no way about it, because seeing the line reminds me of the log directly, but clicking links etc is such a high bar...
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is both what distinguishes children from men, and an absolute bar to leadership.
mircea_popescu: adlai: asciilifeform: would you argue that satoshi should've switched PoW each time a new optimized (ie, gpu, fpga, etc) miner was released, at least, before he sepukkud? <<< whatever he'd argue, it is a fact that YES, satoshi should have been a man rather than an herb, and once he knew things blew up should have called forth the dragon. ☟︎
shinohai: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/06/house-of-horrors-police-find-apparent-sex-slave-chained-to-strippers-pole-in-detroit-home/ <<< Police said mircea_popescu was nowhere to be found. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (at least when they are links to the log)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf i find myself agreeing with adlai, the way we have it now, the log is in fact near-unreadable EXCEPT in wwwtron. links oughta dump into the chan assbot-style ☟︎
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-04#1445594 <<< what i was thinking is "offer wires as an alternative to a cash settlement to people who presently hold x.eur and to whom i've committed to delivering upon request", and then close it, at least until i have another professionnal setup to handle it properly ☝︎☟︎
davout: ;;later tell hanbot ^
danielpbarron: same idea with deeds ; could submit same thing over over, but then get neg-rated out of a voice
danielpbarron: no, that's what WoT is for
phf: otherwise can go ascii route and ref the same post over and over again
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-19#983318 << The damnation of the guilty is of severe importance ☝︎
BingoBoingo: No, you've lessened the damning!
phf: rozal now has three BingoBoingo rates and this thread
danielpbarron: and by yeah, I mean yeah I had the same thought, that perhaps this is a less legit reference
danielpbarron: yeah, the rozal ones get triggered by the log line being referenced in BingoBoingo's rating on him
phf: i wonder if assbot quotes should count for annotations though
phf: i was frankly surprised you managed to produce them manually ☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: yeah you can probably pop the answer out way faster than the way I just found those
danielpbarron: i suppose that means there may be lines with even greater references
danielpbarron: yeah i just noticed, it didn't like me referring to multiple lines in the same line
phf: incidentally there's a bug in ref counter, only finds one ref
danielpbarron: there's a four-way tie for 3rd most referenced log line : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-01#1418803 ; http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-25#1144802 ; http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-07#1090204 ; http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-05#546880 ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-05#1446454 << http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-04#700916 << the most referenced line : asciilifeform commenting on some news story that BingoBoingo wanted to scoop before coindesk, saying that they'd all pretend they scooped it first anyway ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: the idiocy is of interest strictly to archaeologists.
adlai: asciilifeform: not quite, iirc he wailed and gnashed teeth at the ungentlemanly conduct of ArtForz.
phf: adlai: i'm half expecting bot to fall over at any second, you want it to spew log lines, you crazy, mang
adlai: asciilifeform: would you argue that satoshi should've switched PoW each time a new optimized (ie, gpu, fpga, etc) miner was released, at least, before he sepukkud?
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-04-26#1 << new url to first log line, and its 2nd reference :) ☝︎
asciilifeform: (incidentally, the node/mine dichotomy is an excellent illustration of the 'protocol vs promise' principle. in that initially, they were one and the same - cpu miner was enabled. but this was 'promise' in the sense that nothing kept the two tethered together)
asciilifeform: i find it difficult to imagine that mircea_popescu would not have known this. ergo on 'day x' he believed that he was connected directly to a mine.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That was January, mebbe February news and previously August-September news
asciilifeform: so in other 'news', somewhere b/w 1/3 to 1/2 of ~all~ public nodez are ~admitted~ sybils at this point.
trinque: why is IRC so damned terrible?
trinque: wtf is this disconnected by services shit?
adlai goes back to trying to make money make money
adlai: recursing into inner links, across the log.b-a.chasm, left as an exercise to the industrious lisper
asciilifeform: i can't be the only one who takes in the log at least half the time from the logtron
asciilifeform: so long as the latter doesn't interfere with the log browser's mechanisms re arrows
asciilifeform: imho it would be optimal for the thing to spew old-style assbot spew, aha
adlai: this is what assbot did back in the good ol' days.
adlai: i don't want to click shit, i want text quoted in weechat without me moving an eyeball.