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mircea_popescu: (its evolution in turn based on a very simple notion, directly accessible to the very simple minds then roaming the earth - as quarry taken is to be distributed by the hunt boss, so everything is a quarry and so everything is to be split up. this works for non-pastoral societies quite well, but when it runs into the better organised, smarter and generally more effectual shepherds and riders they get raped.)
mircea_popescu: pretty much all the "ancient towns" that did make it, memphis to tyre and sardis etc were rebuilt after being sacked at that time as well.
mircea_popescu: they were ~all palace economies, they were all wiped in the ~same half century cca 1300 bc, as the iron age begun
asciilifeform: just like the weight of knapsack a healthy young bloke can march with is roughly same today as in rome
mircea_popescu: for as long as willing to pretend, works fine.
asciilifeform: ( as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-13#920116 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: and yes, 'them crackpots are crayzeeeee' - for same reason as the folks shooting at usg are. because after 100 yrs of 'we control vertical and horizontal' only the nuts are left to resist.
asciilifeform: which is to say, the tokamak folks are about as interested in desktop, $1000 fusion (of ~whatever temperatures~) as the maths dept at your uni is interested in elementary proof of fermat, or the software 'industry' - in 'fits in head', etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: one key bit of insight is that 'self-licking ice cream cones' - which is to say, all 'mainstream science', as carried out by mandarins who leave their balls in a jar via the degree-wank-till-you're-45 method (vs the ancient and more humane sharp knife and rope one) all produce very much the same output.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-19 01:29 hanbot: <asciilifeform> 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel << wtf is a "mainstream consensus" even, other'n subconscious acknowledgement of the utter lack of substance contained in what they'd like to be seen as doing, anyway.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1484865 << the zombies' notion of 'substance' is quite the same 'palace economy' as their concept of, e.g., political legitimacy - a magical juice produced at harvard and distributed to the mandarins and from there down to 'deserving' plebes. ☝︎
hanbot: <asciilifeform> 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel << wtf is a "mainstream consensus" even, other'n subconscious acknowledgement of the utter lack of substance contained in what they'd like to be seen as doing, anyway. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Additional criticism is levied at the group's leader, Eric Lerner, for his rejection of the mainstream consensus regarding the Big Bang, which leads to more doubt as to the group's legitimacy.' << lel
asciilifeform: fusion pops up as one such. there were many other subjs.
asciilifeform: plays ~same role as 'chemtrails'
mircea_popescu: no, as a general rule drones hang for what they are, queens hang for what they did. there's really little other than "he's jwz" needed to hang jwz.
mod6: "As of this writing, it needs a log of RAM to work, typically upwards of 25Gigs." :D
Framedragger: i just find it amusing in general, yeah pointing out not as a contra, but, just, for the lulz
mircea_popescu: win-win, as they say.
asciilifeform: as they sizzled, sizzled.
asciilifeform: mats: this doesn't solve the problem in a guaranteed way, as the thing has been known to crash
mod6: was so glad to finally be done, as of 5 minutes ago. but now, have to go clean gutters :/
mod6: thestringpuller: anyway, i get that you're "pissed" as you said the other day. if this is production server, you need to have some sort of backups indeed imo. if this is development, well, it's all part of the fun.
shinohai: I'm using my unused pogo as datastore for it xD
mircea_popescu: as stated in teh logs yeh
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 14:58 mircea_popescu: expecting a 100s of GB datastore produced through the fragile stack known as bitcoin to survive for years intact is a bit much.
mircea_popescu: expecting a 100s of GB datastore produced through the fragile stack known as bitcoin to survive for years intact is a bit much. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: vitalik niggerin, as the case may be.
mircea_popescu: these brave weeklings, all tough and impressive as they've read on the inside of the eggshell.
shinohai: "Practically, this should mark the end of The DAO. The SlockIt folks should work hard to dismantle the fund and return the coins back to the investors in as orderly a fashion as possible.'
asciilifeform: no fiber - may as well be antarctica.
gribble: Nick 'rdponticelli', with hostmask 'rdponticelli!~quassel@190.103.200.15', is identified as user 'rdponticelli', with GPG key id 007D7A89C6DF7B2D, key fingerprint 1BC479F968C1D01EA388673A007D7A89C6DF7B2D, and bitcoin address 1MdZetHwDt8SJjVZSkG9GrRdJWrXizu9RE
mircea_popescu: ~what i'm expecting is that in typical inept overwhelmed imperial bureaucracy fashion, some "ceiling"'s going to get hit and before the red tape can be cut through, the true buyer side'll be actually exposed and visible. a visage so grotesque and horrific as to forever mark itself in the hindbrains of all involved.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: re openpgp format: wait a sec, doesn'tt the 'packet' (as they are called there it seems) containing user info have to be signed or sth?
trinque: doesn't really count as a plan, but it's sanity
trinque: I see him more like the guy who, guts hanging out after a grenade, tries as he might to stuff them back in.
asciilifeform: then entirely electable as an obamatronic muppet.
mircea_popescu: guy is ~a bankrupt tv star, "all his money" stuff is bs. he's poor as a church mouse, all his capital is imagologic.
mircea_popescu: and which, as an end game, i'm perfectly fine with. who the fuck cares the soviets don't like living in the best countryt in the world. a) i told them to leave and b) if they deserved any better they'd shoot the gestapo.
mircea_popescu: and to best understand HOW the turkeyization works, consider the case of argentina, wherein exist both an old cuckold by the name turner as well as a young rapist by the name popescu. now, for whatever imponderable cargo cult reasons (see http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/ for discussion), the local cunts want "dollars". there's a huge difference between situation 1, where turner has 100, and situation 2, wh
mircea_popescu: this is currently, and for as long as it'll last, a black hole in the usg budget to parallel the f-35 airplane-coffeemaker-submarine combo.
asciilifeform: as well they should.
asciilifeform: like oil well, lasts for so long as the dinojuice is in the ground at sufficient pressure.
asciilifeform: as seen in pretty much 100% of sufficiently wild untouched orc tribe
mircea_popescu: but when it does happen, it happens in cunt-centric societies, such as jewry and gypsy etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 17:23 mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800)
asciilifeform: "100 of instances worth 30mn a year" << is also, iirc, about same as the market of aston-martin. will say that a-m is also insignificant pissant unworthy of mention ?
asciilifeform: they are every bit as lulzy as antivirus firms
mircea_popescu: and the fucking examples are from colombia and whatnot. tell you what, newspapers here were full of some woman who ran a parillada (cheaapo restaurant) who had her kid kidnapped which the newspapers related to her "flashing lots of money" and "publicly declaring she's making asd much as 10-15k pesos a month" (about $800) ☟︎
fromphuctor: I have a bunch of RSA moduli I'd like to test. The phuctor entry page says it requires GPG public keys. How do I format them as GPG keys?
asciilifeform: as per the last crow.
asciilifeform: i read eth as a standard altcoin scam. 'i'll take your btc, and you can have this magical thing'
mircea_popescu: anyway. hopefully they don't get spooked and do as you say. end up paying the market cap out of pocket a dozen times over the next coupla years, one for each consecutive hole.
mircea_popescu: does it say something like "nationalization of the whole scheme is regarded as the solution by the technologically challenged MIT troop" ?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: yup. with buterin as the chairman!
asciilifeform: 'So there is a recursive payout 'problem'? No there isn't. It was all in the specification. When the DAO was fund raising, it was explicit that the only thing that mattered was the DAO's contract code. Nothing else should be taken as being reliable. Well, the contract code is still operating exactly as it was specified. A 'hacker' is merely using the code in ways that were there to see, should anyone have looked. How can they be stea
asciilifeform: the nazi one, naturally, that i was regaled with tales of as a boy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: enemy can just as easily sign ~his~ variant
asciilifeform: (as valid, both for folks with mircea_popescu's genuine pubkey, and for those with the magic one)
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 01:27 mod6: and yah, as far as I can tell asciilifeform, the only #b-a links there (three of them) are pointing at wiki.bitcoin-assets.com
asciilifeform: ... it would be displayed as latest; folks who -receive-key longfp would end up with it; all known pgp clients - happily encipher to it; etc.
mod6: and yah, as far as I can tell asciilifeform, the only #b-a links there (three of them) are pointing at wiki.bitcoin-assets.com ☟︎
asciilifeform: well, probably not as traditionally stated (e.g., if 'evil maid' borrows mircea_popescu's key, she can launch the rockets)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw would phuctor (as it currently works) be able to import an otherwise normal openpgp / rfc4880 key either (1) no self-sig or (2) a somehow borked (nulled? haven't looked at rfc4880 data structures yet) self-sig? as i see it lotsa info is actually contained *within* the signed part, in that format..
mircea_popescu: if it's intended to work as what it works, then really there's no use or need for that nonsense.
mircea_popescu: if gpg was intended as a sort of otr, "user creates subkeys forever", it's shockingly poorly implemented.
Framedragger: depends on matter of scale. if you zoom out and look at gpg as a whole then you just want to burn everything to the ground, sure. and if you zoom out further you want to rewrite more and more things. but sometimes it is worthwhile to consider relative differences of worth, too, so to speak.
Framedragger: right, sure. but then you'd agree that all phuctorings (save for one, apparently) are interesting insofar as one is interested in how broken this scheme is?
Framedragger: i agree. but what if there was some trust path from you to hpa's parent key; and there were no paths at all to the diddled child key. surely that's something, even if not enough for you to mark hpa's key (any key) as "trusted"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger as exemplified by the woman in the picture. she's "not fake". in what sense ? she could call you and swear for herself ? so ?
trinque just picked up a g5 imac as a non-intel curio
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 17:04 mircea_popescu: except in the case as seen of hpa's key, where they just attached a valid sig to an invalid key.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how someone who waits for you to go to sleep, pours gasoline and lights up could possibly escape the hanging. it is about as cowardly premeditated as it gets, no need to encourage this sort of behaviour.
mircea_popescu: except in the case as seen of hpa's key, where they just attached a valid sig to an invalid key. ☟︎
asciilifeform: such as when rsa-signing a small string.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "standard checksum" appears to be emerging as sha.
mircea_popescu: no. data is data, formats are standard. data storage is your problem. encrypt it as you will. no standard encryption. backup it as you will. no standard backup.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, as far as formats go - it seems data integrity procedures should be separated from data.
asciilifeform: as in, between keys
mircea_popescu: the notion of joining at the hip a permanent store and a cache is so idiotic as to make me certain the guy had no sort of formal education
asciilifeform: understand, getting the balance of an addr is O(N) ~unless~ you've been watching it as the blocks splat in.
mircea_popescu: (but in generally, no, it's as fucking stupid to have the sig cert in the sig as it's stupid to have the bitcoin transactions in the bitcoin wallet.
mircea_popescu: there is exactly ONE rsa format, for all time, past as well as future, and it goes like this : N, e, comment.
mircea_popescu: i do not have use for as much as a rotten end of a thread from usg. you follow this concept ?
asciilifeform: as it was written.
mircea_popescu: if you store as a csv, add more fields. if you store in any other format, a mechanical equivalent for "add more fields" exists. what is the problem ?
asciilifeform: they are stored as-found. so they can be shat back out and compared to extant key elsewhere etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor is, originally, ~specifically~ about pgp keys, ~verbatim~, as found in the wild forest. any other thing will have to be a new gadget.
mircea_popescu: as late empire turned to medieval times, colonus -> peasantry and foederatus -> yeomanry.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: gotcha. i have thing which converts ssh pubkey format to e,N,IP. i'll probably have a thing which generates rfc4880 (inserting ip address as comment field, say) from e,N,IP. thanks!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, just saying as a horizon thing.
Framedragger: i guess right now i'm more curious to see general statistics / trends, e.g. distribution of ssh server versions per given geo region / AS etc., not that it may be too useful, but just genuinely curious
shinohai: i just mean to me it makes no sense to include href as wordcount
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo we prolly should have a rule as to the maximum wordcount for an a href anchor.
mircea_popescu: they're on a different domain, as per wordpress idiocy. and wget is apparently written by imbeciles. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 01:28 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475432 << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable
mircea_popescu: just as long as the russians, the chinese and the republic each received its respective tax.
asciilifeform: as money furnace.
asciilifeform: it 'flies' every bit as much as every other machine.
asciilifeform: ~same flavour as leonid brezhnev's big hunts.