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pete_dushenski: also working on belated hearn eulogy and
trb history part ii this week.
mod6: deedbot running
trb?
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 15:15:10; mod6: Attention
TRB Testers: If you want to help test, please take the time to build
trb via trinque's makefiles here;
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000190.html (Should be basically getting & verifing the tar ball; plus setting up a ~/.wot dir with keys for V to use) -- then a `make` in the directory. Please report your findings. Thanks.
ascii_butugychag: in EXACTLY same way as my
trb node does THE SAME amount of number crunching whether it hears a block from gavin's node or from mircea_popescu's.
mod6: Attention
TRB Testers: If you want to help test, please take the time to build
trb via trinque's makefiles here;
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000190.html (Should be basically getting & verifing the tar ball; plus setting up a ~/.wot dir with keys for V to use) -- then a `make` in the directory. Please report your findings. Thanks.
☟︎☟︎ guruvan: asciilifeform: working on a
trb docker image - looks like was 168000 p2sh ?
punkman: does
trb relay txs with op_return outputs?
PeterL: oh, wait, is that the same one linked on
trb website?
PeterL: just trying to follow directions on
trb website
ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a
trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)
ascii_butugychag: but it does mean that a
trb node is largely useless until fully synced.
trinque: by god, sometime this month it might even have a fully synced
trb to poke too
thestringpuller: the funny thing is the core devs proclaim "No need to use V or
TRB method. We sign our git patches!!!!111"
assbot: An historical timeline of The Real Bitcoin (
TRB) development, part i. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Ok6H8T )
Atomicat: V? What's the difference between Bitcoin Core and
TRB? Does it use the same blockchain?
Atomicat: I will look into this later today. What are the rules set forth in
TRB?
mircea_popescu: PeterL this is a public channel. for obvious security reasons
trb is a superset thereof.
PeterL: as far as we know, we are the only people using
trb?
PeterL: #b-a mining pool implies it is run by people within the #b-a WoT,
trb pool implies it follows the rules set forth in
trb PeterL: although, somebody outside this group could pick up
trb and start their own pool, so I guess it is not exactly the same thing
PeterL: #b-a is this group, which is where
trb is developed
PeterL: iiuc, the current reference implementation of
trb does not support pooled mining, so somebody would have to port the current
trb ruleset into a mining pool program
PeterL: Atomicat, it would be a mining pool run using the same rule as
TRB (the real bitcoin)
Atomicat: PeterL: What is a
TRB mining pool?
BingoBoingo:
trb behaving as expected so far, no forgetten gold in the wallet.dat yet
mod6: after this, you should be able to press out a new
trb that includes the latest patches, then build from there.
BingoBoingo also spied cheap dedi box on clearance will set up
trb node on linux when datacenter gets back to me about paying them.
shinohai needs to review last night's logs for more info on
trb mining pool possibility
mircea_popescu: anyway. this bullshit won't be either mined or relayed by
trb.
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag ben_vulpes mod6 : is there a way to look at what data messages/control messages are going over the wire or force their invocation in
trb? or would that functionality need to be patched in to print to log/accept command from some source?
BingoBoingo: And Glibc DNS functions force dynamic linking which is why excised from
trb ben_vulpes: if it continues to fail to compile
trb i may embark on gentoo quest instead.
ben_vulpes:
trb compiled just dandily on the ubuntu i had on the box previously
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have a linux
trb, but I keep sideshow because inertia and curiosity.
ben_vulpes: 'linker file input unused because linking not done' << anyone ever see this while compiling
trb on open bsd?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform:
trb compilation detects machine architecture when building right? so build on machine run on same machine. or do I have to configure some flag for the machine I'm compiling + running on?
mircea_popescu: i would strongly advise anyone using
trb in production to at least test this patch.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit
trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
trinque: propose a better way to get a large number of
trb nodes in the wild
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit
trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit
trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: only figured this out when i went to compile
trb and got assembly errors.
ben_vulpes: while compiling
trb either on various linux or an openbsd?
mircea_popescu: adlai if you can code, you can actually help the
trb people. if you can't code, you can try an' help BingoBoingo, who's coinstantly asking. or else offend copypaste by rewriting trilema as best you can. or etc.
mircea_popescu: it should also not be the case that there isn't a
trb path between you and miners.
shinohai: Guess I'll have to compile
trb on tinkerbell linux now
mircea_popescu: miner defection from any and all non-
trb approved soft forks is a ~GUARANTEE~ in the future. just a question of when.
thestringpuller: imo this is why
TRB Foundation is so important. it not only decrufts the shitty code but acts as defenders of the blockchain
thestringpuller: this is fine as long as my future
trb node can witness transactions being confirmed that it broadcasted.
shinohai: And so
trb is at a crossroads :/
mircea_popescu: sooo... acthung panzers, asciilifeform ben_vulpes mod6 : it is certain beyond any conceivable doubt the
trb nodes are isolated - both the publicly advertised ones and at least one not publicly advertised, because lo! what used to be tx e6b8aa9dedef74a7e8961e0d997aebc35aae3c8e762a715336d84b39507c9773 has not only been successfully broadcast but it got malleated, and is now included in the chain as c29e162c79144ced3e827
mircea_popescu: punkman mno. that is an unrelated issue of a 2nd tx. again, it's not surprising, seeing how
trb handles chains.
mircea_popescu: punkman we know for a fact everyone in
trb DOES have it in their mempool, actually.
mircea_popescu: mno, they accepted one and rejected the rest (which is unsurprising for
trb, seeing how the rest were chained on the one)
punkman: mircea_popescu: i've been broadcasting it all night to the
trb nodes, you can ask any of them, they should still have it in the memory. << they seem to be rejecting it, so maybe pastebin the raw transaction
massiro: mircea_popescu, sorry, i'm not familiar with
trb nodes.
mircea_popescu: i've been broadcasting it all night to the
trb nodes, you can ask any of them, they should still have it in the memory.
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 03:08:08; mircea_popescu: so basically, my node sent to
trb nodes,
trb nodes have it in memory but it's not being broadcast past them.
mircea_popescu: so basically, my node sent to
trb nodes,
trb nodes have it in memory but it's not being broadcast past them.
☟︎ mod6: was 83e2b80e96919cb0b0186ff8ba7225d25535ad722ec5e2343a3a5927ef85d735 sent by
trb?
mircea_popescu doesn't know what to think atm, maybe it's some weirdo bug in the
trb ? maybe what the shit.
mod6: trinque: I pulled, verified and tested '
trb-mk.tar.gz' on my gentoo x86-64 machine. It built a static bitcoind for me! I fired it up, connects, pulls blocks. =]
trinque:
http://deedbot.org/trb-mk.tar.gz http://deedbot.org/trb-mk.tar.gz.asc << mod6, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes, et al., this thing has crapped a working
trb enough times to get feedback. It's a set of makefiles for the former build script and rotor. There are interesting knobs in the various makefiles, including (I think) an easy way to put other builders alongside rotor (as asciilifeform mentioned). Lemme
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol. "it will please you to know that ibm laptop suspends to disk without issue with ubuntu 10.04" != "girl says it actually compiled
trb. SO THERE."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform girl says it actually compiled
trb. SO THERE.
shinohai: Indeed. When I haz enough forum rank I'll even make a
trb signature xD
shinohai: No official
trb thread on bitcointalk, all this XT, bigger blocks, and segwit nonsense there too. :/
shinohai: 4329 blocks to go. I might have an actual
trb node by next week.
pete_dushenski: reliant robin is an excellent example of bitcoin as it works today : looks to have the right parts but has them in the wrong order and as a result it doesn't quite work as intended. compare this with the morgan 3-wheeler, which is perhaps where
trb is headed, which has the same parts, but not welded together by apes.
BingoBoingo:
trb and others pre-power rangers derping on the matter sign whatever s value