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asciilifeform: ( which afaik they do not do , 'because slow', cuz nobody can be arsed to asm iguess )
asciilifeform: it's funny, imho, how heathens fucked the softs stack to the point where it actually makes sense to pass a whole-machine state around
trinque: nope, but this is exactly the kind of thing that an actual compute substrate would do
asciilifeform: i.e. connect to one, its state changes, and it sends message to others, which majoritate ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: since you seem to be familiar with subj : outta curiosity, do any of the heathen 'cloud'isms allow user to run same 'machine' on multiple irons in lockstep ?
BingoBoingo: Post the pic, maybe an augur comes around?
trinque: lol, what do the bird giblets portend?
asciilifeform: afaik 'container' heathenism usually refers to orc attempts at circumventing os lack of static linkage, rather than whole-os in bottle
trinque reflects on his several migrations of the deedbot stack
trinque: yeah, containers in the abstract are extremely handy tools, just all the implementations are mountains of garbage.
asciilifeform: cuz imho an envir where you can build yer os/proggies at home, then upload whole thing to piz (or even yer own box wherever) an' run, and then snapshot, download state, run again at home, or (exotica) sync 2 running instances -- would be a win ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: does the notion make sense to you, or is lunacy ?
trinque: ah yes, I saw this thread.
asciilifeform: trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-15#1918247 thrd ☝︎
trinque: i.e. target a qemu arch or the like?
asciilifeform: trinque: re the 'iron babel', asciilifeform strongly suspects that a standardized 'textbook' arch, even with 'artificial' (soft) rather than troo iron available, would be of much use re cuntooism
trinque: perhaps all that's needed there is a cut ISO. ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think anyone expects 'ubuntu-like installer' (at least not i)
trinque: this is not a circumstance to which I'm resigned, but is what it is.
trinque: as for me, I will still have to batch my efforts since I am not independently wealthy
trinque: but at any rate, none of the above is a counterargument to the "republic does things, or isn't."
trinque: and the kind which implicitly hauls in the wrong kind of relationship to the machine
trinque: and perhaps this is what's wanted, but the ubuntu-like installer that supports all hardware without anyone needing to learn to spin a linux kernel is a different kind of item ☟︎
trinque: I noticed that not a soul read the scripts that bootstrap cuntoo ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:59 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, and iirc test resulted in open questions ( item not yet fully replicable, but no one knows precisely why )
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919226 << where I left it is "operator still has to understand linux to use the thing" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:59 mircea_popescu: trinque, for some reason, deedbot's not answering !!withdrawal !!v's anymore.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 16:41 bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess that there two components in your question. the easy is ffa: is agree that my ffa-related output is underwhelming for a lord, however 1) i don't expect that it will eat much more time (at ch.14 i'll see if there is really need for further asming, the anticipated answer is "not really") 2) i find speedup from asming generally useful, so i don't think the time i spent on it is wasted.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919279 << ftr i do not think it is waste. i expect that most 'realtime' applications (e.g. 'gossip') will want the asmistic ffa. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (but iirc we already had thrd re subj)
asciilifeform: imho a Trooly Sane arch ought not to even permit sub-word addressing. as e.g. lispm did not.
asciilifeform: so it'll have to wait.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-15 19:10 asciilifeform: emulates errything but the page table mechanism, which is somewhat gnarly even on mips (tho miniscule compared to pc's)
asciilifeform: re: loose ends: fwiw asciilifeform did in fact add the final missing piece to mipstron. BUT! can't test with the dummkopf's orig linux image as he... guess wat, his system had little-endian word accesses but big-endian byte read/write ! so his image in fact will boot on NO existing mips, nor any afaik other emulator. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
bvt: the hard part is 'fiat overlord' and being able to dedicate stable amounts of time to republican work, for this i don't have an acceptable answer.
bvt: after ffa I will have a look at other things (like ripping out kernel rng, having another look at gnat-arm64 internals, as it seems there is no ongoing work on this front atm). i expect to get something useful as a result, and maintain it in long term.
bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess that there two components in your question. the easy is ffa: is agree that my ffa-related output is underwhelming for a lord, however 1) i don't expect that it will eat much more time (at ch.14 i'll see if there is really need for further asming, the anticipated answer is "not really") 2) i find speedup from asming generally useful, so i don't think the time i spent on it is wasted. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i suppose taking day job as astrologer went ok for kepler. but he was after all kepler. did not go well for asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: it was funny, was hired in the 1st place for 'solving' problem apriori known to be a squared circle, 'homomorphic crypto'.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 03:07 asciilifeform: zx2c4: you may find it interesting to learn that i once worked in a dour 'salt mine' where shat out 'correctness proof' all day. in 'sage.'
asciilifeform: sketched out the experience e.g. here & elsewhere ☝︎
Mocky: icing on the cake
asciilifeform: Mocky: for bonus ugh, politruk showed up erry day to ask asciilifeform when he'd agree to take holy orders 'and start the interesting projs'
asciilifeform: Mocky: it was the sorta job that destroys yer head, like cerebral equiv. of black lung.
Mocky: asciilifeform: thanks. and why couldn't think, distractions?
asciilifeform: ( this, arguably, is worse than to be able to neither think nor speak )
asciilifeform: historically this aint the problem, tho, in '16 asciilifeform was stuck in such a snakepit, could speak all he wanted , but could not ~think~
asciilifeform: Mocky: bouncer (znc or similar) . if yer in an especially dire shithole, may have to hang it (or the ssh tunnel leading to it ) on port 80
Mocky: I need to figure out how I can log into #trilema from my work computer during the day
Mocky: my work on gns is at the stage where I'm loading v fully into my head and making sure I know the questions I need to ask before I start implementing. I'll blog about it ☟︎
Mocky: I got my blob migrated over to mp_wp, but got hung up on theme changes. I'm going to go live with it and fix the theme later. I need to have a functional blog
Mocky: happened to you?' is even worse.
Mocky: mircea_popescu: I've failed at managing myself for the last few months. I let myself get overwhelmed with dumb shit. I thought I could do it all despite the evidence to the contrary. Republican work got dropped along with a bunch of other. But republican work is what I care about and not the dumb shit. So I'm changing this now. Head in the sand is no way to live and putting others in the position to say, 'hey, wtf ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's just the copying over of otps
mircea_popescu: now for yet another half hour episode of driving the-sorta-people-nobody-here-knows-how-to-replace blind on nonsense strings.
mircea_popescu: !!rate danielpbarron -10 used to hang around here, meanwhile found greener pastures.
mircea_popescu: nfi, he's as private as a virgin teen.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expected that finally making it to ru would be morale booster for phf. ( evidently not? wai not ? )
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:49 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919184 << sad to hear that phf is in this condition. hey phf can you at least throw bring the ffa patches/sigs on btcbase up to date ? i think i asked 3x already... surely this takes less than 10min on your end
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919210 << nevermind the "sad". phf you can either talk about it an' get it fixed, or otherwise keep nursing it Framedragger style. there's no practical options otherwise. ☝︎
asciilifeform: admittedly asciilifeform not had time to follow pantsuit press. last i knew they helpfully assembled the old carrier fleet into a convenient shooting gallery for iran. (who for some reason not taken advantage yet)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loudly 'coulding win' is what those folx do for a 'living' neh.
mircea_popescu: which is how they've been winning things since 1945.
mircea_popescu: the procedure, transparently from empirical data as well as doubtless following their bayesian deductive logic would be, that since they no longer have the capacity to nuke anyone, it then follows they'll necessarily win a nuke war -- in the imagination.
asciilifeform: next step of tech-evolution after soy etc
mircea_popescu: oh, and also, the us.tards discovered "they could win a nuclear war"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expect this will be next 'diet trend' -- arse-mouth hose.
mircea_popescu: next on cnn, a stupid cunt taking a dump in her own mouth. it gotta happen, because literally every other self-crit / over the top humiliation has been done to death.
asciilifeform: ( groups of 5, with 5th symbol being checksum, would imho be ideal -- then can report eggog on group when keying )
mircea_popescu: and speaking of empire of stupid, the "lead story" for the past coupla days has been this incredible idiocy piece about how the femstate discovering it does not actually have operational capacity to launch planes / bomb places anymore is nevertheless a good thing, because "humanitarian" or some dumb shit.
asciilifeform: admittedly i've never seen the ameri-otp
mircea_popescu: yes. evidently the risskis put some actual work into establishing the format, rather than just seat of pants like the empire of stupid.
asciilifeform: empirically easier to work with, when formatted in groups
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like the old kgb otp ! also printed in groups of 4.
mircea_popescu: such that x is alphanumeric (0-9 and y is a checksum
a111: 2019-05-30 <ave1> ty asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: a very useful tool for dropping the workload from ~50 minutes to ~30 minutes / otp is s/\n/" | sha512sum | cut -c1-2 >> hurr.txt \necho "/ and then comparing the line crcs.
mircea_popescu: and since i've been stuck doing a shitload of these by [slave]hand : the gpg format is fucking TERRIBLE, the small/caps duality is sheer idiocy (90+% of all errors and general slowdown on top of it because of shift) ;
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, and iirc test resulted in open questions ( item not yet fully replicable, but no one knows precisely why ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, twas tested, with a pile of results, months ago.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:47 mp_en_viaje: we have no workable bitcoin nor any sort or kind of measurable progress towards one ; we have no working os, and not only is there no progress towards one but as best as i can discern the situation's rather turning in the direction of "buried in concrete" ; we eminently do not have any sort of meat acquisition system going, while pizarro can't get customers and all dpb can be bothered to do is ~USE IT~ to try and get meat for th
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919166 << trinque sweated out a draft cuntoo, which sadly i have not had chance to test in anger. i have a physical box that is destined for it , when get chance, and also will be porting it to the sim-mips, ditto. but i promised to mircea_popescu not to undertake any elaborate works until ffa suitable for 'discard gpg' and extension to other (gossipd, trbi, what else is waiting on it) paths ☝︎
diana_coman: fwiw I can add from experience that no amount of making sure is actually...making sure.
mircea_popescu: the sort of "before publishing, I'm making sure" idiocy is exactly, but i do mean exactly, of the same substance as the fat girl's "this donut has no calories". it uses the exact same parts of the brain in the exact same way. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked, it is infinitely more valuable to have regular, fixed and SMALL intervals update, than to "achiever heroic tasks" or whatever idiocy the usual engineer shitbrain'susually after.
asciilifeform: i'd luvv to grow 6 or 7 additional hands.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, just as long as we're not looking at june specifically. not to mention managing BingoBoingo / pizarro, such that the man has nfi what the cost structure's like and so following.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:58 mp_en_viaje: and yes ima negrate dpb just as soon as i get to my main keys, he's too fucking busy to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-12#1918049 while http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919091 all day long ? because what, what the fuck's this republic, everyone's suburban helicopter mom, to roll eyes at while eating her sandwiches and thinking about how to steal shit from the house to curry favour with a bunch of morons in school ?
asciilifeform: keep in mind that piz subscriptions are not available to folx who get drummed out tho ! danielpbarron perhaps can avoid ? if starts doing sumthing useful ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 07:44 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919087 << is rk a rockchip? are there any available? what's it cost?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919191 << yes it's rockchip and yes available, there's a brand-new and entirely vacant one, it was discussed at length in the log ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 07:36 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919159 << i'm burned out from my recent misadventures, i've taken several approaches to both republican and secural work, and i'm failing to load it in my brain, or make any kind of dent
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919184 << sad to hear that phf is in this condition. hey phf can you at least throw bring the ffa patches/sigs on btcbase up to date ? i think i asked 3x already... surely this takes less than 10min on your end ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: easily 5x speedup, in the end.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 07:09 bvt: i do expect that 'saltmine season' is over now -- i've been working on asming karatsuba squaring (ffa ch.12b) over this week, post expected tomorrow.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919174 << ftr i find bvt's asm work quite useful, and it will be incorporated into the flagship vtree when i get a chance. ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun hesitate to comment plox.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I did and I even found it easier than previous material though I'm not sure why; ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( anyone worked through barrett ? it's the 1 ~original~ proof in the series, thus far )
asciilifeform: for that matter, afaik none of the eaters have eaten the 2nd half of 2018 yet.