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a111: Logged on 2016-08-13 19:01 asciilifeform: lel, did
they write back
to israel, 'stop sending niggerz with non-rusting staples' etc ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 23:50 asciilifeform: phunphakt, carrier of sov. prototype of manned moon vehicle -- about 1.5x size of 'apollo' -- exploded on pad.
twice (Officially.) and Officially 'for no reason'
mp_en_viaje: (not proposing here
there's an organised
thinking portion. but one day maybe
they get a mp
that cares and do organize,
the 100% most likely
to messiah place in
the current world)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 23:46 asciilifeform: consider, e.g.
the persians. ~gigabux of petroexport, and yet when built fissiles refinery -- it ran on comp from 'siemens' and running winblows 'xp'. why ?
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920601 << iran is not "the persians". iran is
the persians with a
thin sliver of arabs pretending
to rule
them, like a sea cucumber you sprayed with latex exactly.
the
thinking portion hates
the ruling portion, which is principally why
they never get anywhere.
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: kinda
the original substance of
the "benevolence"
thing : "we're
too fucking stupid
to harm anyone, honest"
mp_en_viaje: it's kinda comedic
to watch,
tbh. "here's a people god's chasing all over
the map
to put
things in
their pockets while
they drool"
a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 23:47
trinque: could say life was
too easy by
the
time
the pipe gushed, but was
the pipe not also gushing in mid-century US?
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920602 <<
the us mostly used
the oil domestically (for lack of practicable avenue of export, nobody nearby could afford
to pay or had any use
to it). pre-ww2 us is basically an exercise in doing
the right
thing by accident, like a man auditioning for
the job of being
the dirtiest man in
the world having an accidental altercation with a garbage
truck, six angry chimney sweeps and an oil slick onthe way
there.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 23:39 asciilifeform: hrusch incidentally made
the irrecoverable idiot move
that set up sovok for kindermat -- began exporting petro & other diggables.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 18:37 asciilifeform: revolutionaries break vital organ -- mechanism of succession
to
throne.
this almost always gives same pattern. ( and in
that light, north kr, for whatever idiocies, is unusual and worth
to study , is exception )
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920455 <<
the reason i do not believe korea
to be
that interesting is
that so much of
their integration-resistence is built on deliberate blindness. if your computer is only safe if not connected
to
the internet, you don;t have an os of great interest. show it
to be safe when online,
then we'll have a
talk.
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: integration as a cultural phenomenon is catalized by communication infrastructure. always was,
there's a reason medieval china collapsed in
the arms of
the steam-powered brits, or "multi-milenary" korea in japanese.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 23:33
trinque: it seems like
the USSR and USSA narratives broke down at record speed, compared
to predecessors.
mp_en_viaje: socialism is socialism is socialism, ofcourse each relished
their respective eastasias.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-29 22:35
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-27#1920314 <<
too bad.
the apparent mutual fixation of usg and ussg at
their heights (and
the echos of
this in
their dotage) persuades me
that
there was something special about both one upon a
time.
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920572 <<
the mutual fixation was a matter of convenience. way
the fuck cheaper for each retard in class
to pick
the other as "archnemesis"
than
to actually confront reality.
there's a reason ignatius reilly / minka minkoff or w/e her name is are writing
to each other.
☝︎ BingoBoingo: Miami's also
the place where
the folks with money here go shopping which probably ads
to
the mythology
BingoBoingo: But all
they know is
the glossy print. Nevermind living in better places already.
trinque: yeh, heaven on earth is
the most decadent shit I've ever heard.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: really gets into
the pathology
BingoBoingo: trinque: As in
the place
they fixate on as "having made it"
trinque: and perhaps
the "hurr god doesn't real, now I can masturbate in peace"
thing isn't
the best place
to park
the head.
trinque: but anyhow, perhaps humans stuck
things in
the gods
that needed
to mind
the gap.
trinque: you know,
that one has been on my list
too long. I'll move it up.
trinque: asciilifeform: hypothesis is well summarized in a mircea_popescu
trilema post I'll find
trinque: this isn't an implicit proposal
to return
to
the past, just a finger pointing at
the void
trinque: the operative hypothesis on my end is
that 20th century powers invested
their narrative power in men, and when
they died, narrative died also.
trinque: asciilifeform: back on
the subj of gods, ever read Jaynes' Origin of Consciousness?
trinque: BingoBoingo: like "someday I'll post such a great pic on instagram I'll have
the likes
to buy a flat in miami" or what
☟︎ trinque: but I guess it was permavacation
to
the outside, 80s partying
☟︎ trinque: soft because insufficiently head-beaten, or what was
the weakness
trinque: why didn't he end up in
the chair?
☟︎ trinque: stalin had 3 decades;
that's
time enough
to beat on
the head of a protege
trinque: hm, so
this is in-world magic
that had
to be undone. fatal
then, for sure.
trinque: asciilifeform: why is it
that revolutionaries must break
the cycle of succession, rather
than simply replace
the wheel?
☟︎ trinque: you found your cock, congrats. I played a better christian dork in my
teens
than you've ever done.
trinque: danielpbarron: ftr your fixation when fucking is allowed and when it's
the naughty is
the saddest
thing I've ever seen.
☟︎ trinque: vikings and
their spiffy gods got a great run out of it.
trinque: look at sad danielpbarron pulling
the stick on yhwh
trinque: now I want
to say
that
they died because
they made shitty gods.
trinque: I would've earlier said
that
the ussa and ussr died quick because
technology caused
them
to hit a complexity limit.
trinque: this is what I suspect
the
two had in common when
they were anything
to speak about.
trinque: I doubt
this because it conflates
the hearts of men and grunts.
trinque: act from principle yes, but
there appear
to be moments where
the principles flow, heh, from princeps
trinque: this is what'd be interesting
to know
trinque: nah, what did
the Men Doing
Things believe in
the moment, on either side.
trinque: I don't know about
that. I'm meandering
toward a point about narrative and
the power
thereof.
trinque: yeah, I'd buy
the N1 sabotage hypothesis
trinque: yet some methwitch got 3 dudes strapped
to an ICBM and fired at
the moon
trinque: could say life was
too easy by
the
time
the pipe gushed, but was
the pipe not also gushing in mid-century US?
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i
thought
that was a reference
to something prior.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 18:37 asciilifeform: revolutionaries break vital organ -- mechanism of succession
to
throne.
this almost always gives same pattern. ( and in
that light, north kr, for whatever idiocies, is unusual and worth
to study , is exception )
trinque: (I could see
this; fuck's sake, what an empire)
trinque: asciilifeform: what is it in your view
that broke? simply succession? nobody could sit in king stalin's chair?
trinque: it seems like
the USSR and USSA narratives broke down at record speed, compared
to predecessors.
☟︎ trinque: yep,
this part is not in question on my end. uselessness must be filtered.
trinque: do you see
this as a management failure, inevitability, inferior stock, other?
trinque: it's hard
to see a way
this organized statal
terror doesn't become self-licking-icecream-cone, and evidently it did