log☇︎
28800+ entries in 0.36s
asciilifeform: 'In Paul Graham's world, as soon as oil paint was invented, painting techniques made a discontinuous jump from the fifteenth to the twentienth century, fortuitously allowing Renaissance painters to paint a lot like Paul Graham. ... I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickl
asciilifeform: 'As physicists, radioastronomers, and electronics engineers, we were all struck by the possibility of doing independent broadcasts, if nothing else because that was our profession. My colleagues took part in broadcasts in Warsaw and other cities. Rooftop transmitters had low range. And they were easy for the security services to locate. We had to think of something else. Our colleague Andrzej Jeśmanowicz, son of the noted Toruń mat ☟︎
mircea_popescu: thing is, we had the nod thing back in romania ; when i visited the eastern empire as a tyke, native chicks that spoke no language i spoke nevertheless knew how it works just fine.
mircea_popescu: "People dance tango at a structured event called a milonga (the word can also apply to the dance hall itself, or to a two-beat older form of tango music), the only social setting in Argentina where you must fetch your own drinks and empanadas at a bar rather than waiting for table service." <<< ahaha fucking bs. as erryone can attest, you get table service.
mircea_popescu: take that, white supremacists everywhere : all white argentina is as bad as an all-fungus erection. i came here for the all-black argentina and didn't even know it at the time ;/
mircea_popescu: oh btw, re tango : it is a living testament to the ignorant, molasses-thick hypocrisy of these people that they regard tango as "their national heritage", when tango was invented and developed by BLACK DUDES. who then got a little bit of genocide, deliverately (argentina declared war with peru, told black people they make better fighters, sent them to fight, got them exterminated by the mountain folk. this is not unlike telli
mircea_popescu: oft the scene plays out as the guy frantically runs to unlock the door just as mp is jew-waving him and turning.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's altogether unclear how much political control over others is required for individual freedom. certainly political control OVER IDIOTS, which includes small children, as well as all the adults with the mind of a small child.
mircea_popescu: LET ALONE people with pretensions as to a life of the mind.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i'm actually felling a bit of that constructive mp-rage towards gnupg. by god it should be kicked and replaced as soon as possible
mircea_popescu: there's a pile of incidental nonsense (such as min length for name but not password hurr ; such as 2.0.30 current doesn't even fucking compile, such as etc) that shouldn't disappear under "oh, mpi"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since we're on this btw, the way i want tmsr-rsa key generation to work is as follows : a contains a number of entropy bytes specified by user in tmsr-rsa.conf read whenever tmsr-rsa.conf specifies (such as urandom); b contains a base-tmsr string specified by user. c = base-tmsr(a).b ; p = nextprime(cut(sha512(c),257)) ; process is repeated for q = nextprime (cut(sha512(c'),258)); ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: you should see output that is same as pgpdump -i of seckey.asc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all bignums in gpg are passed around as pointers to 'mpi' data structure.
asciilifeform: as crappable into, e.g., python, to arithmetize on.
mircea_popescu: ok. and this does not actually correspond to the numeric format as used by gpg's bignum because mpi reasons.
asciilifeform: that does not correspond to an integer, as such, it has pieces of it, chunks, each having a header
asciilifeform: so far i am at a loss as to how one becomes the other.
asciilifeform: ... it looks as if there is an extra layer of shuffle not accounted for by the dump?
asciilifeform: then build the new gpg2 as described here.
mircea_popescu: " In Paul Graham's world, as soon as oil paint was invented, painting techniques made a discontinuous jump from the fifteenth to the twentienth century, fortuitously allowing Renaissance painters to paint a lot like Paul Graham. And the difficult problems the new medium supposedly helped painters solve just happened to resemble the painting problems that confront an enthusiastic but not particularly talented art student. I ho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember, the ~initial~ contents of the pool are entropic (at least in as far as the os provides)
mircea_popescu: more's the point here : does that pos actually work so as to get any entropy past the 600 bytes pool ?
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin.org has reason to suspect that the binaries for the upcoming Bitcoin Core release will likely be targeted by state sponsored attackers. As a website, Bitcoin.org does not have the necessary technical resources to guarantee that we can defend ourselves ...blahblah... The hashes of Bitcoin Core binaries are cryptographically signed with this key. We strongly recommend that you download that key, which should have a fingerprint
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the incredible gall of the imbecile, to actually state it as "This bug does not affect the default generation of keys" << i mean srsly. since 1998!?
BingoBoingo: fixing seems as though it would require mucking up phphhphphphp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the incredible gall of the imbecile, to actually state it as "This bug does not affect the default generation of keys"
PeterL: or does that not count as obscure?
asciilifeform: (e.g., the degenerate case, perfect square, as above.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct. as seen above.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno that 'send a non-refundable bid, and oh also price is 1 MIL BTC' counts as 'for sale', more of elaborate gag
asciilifeform: if boeck had posted same pile, mircea_popescu would immediately recognize it as 'burning old holes'
asciilifeform: mass of chumps is modelled as idiot machine, that dun care that you had previously tried 999,999,999 wrong passwords, etc.
mircea_popescu: so now back to the issue : we have some semblance of defense against what is in fact a universal problem ; they don't, and are in denial. as per the cannonical expression of this situation, http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/#selection-147.267-153.105
asciilifeform: experimented successfully with storing a double-digit million sum of euros in cash at what the insurer describes as a manageable cost. A few other German banks, including Commerzbank, the country's second-biggest lender, have also considered taking the step. But when a Swiss pension fund attempted to withdraw a large sum of money from its bank in order to store it in a vault, the bank refused to provide the cash, according to local m
asciilifeform: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/16/banks-look-for-cheap-way-to-store-cash-piles-as-rates-go-negative.html << more lulz
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:31 mircea_popescu: i perceive the following problem : in my (rightful) bashing of idiocies (allinged around "colored coins", "dao" etc, that jazz) i distinctly hear the crushed hopes of people who look at those as a refuge from something else, specifically. i suspect it's hwqat you call "anarchists"
Framedragger: phf: so you don't regard matasano crypto challenges as anything worthy, then?
mircea_popescu: "i could be mp, i read all he wrote" "and if tomorrow mizdra lands with an alien submarine, what will you say as mp ? this hasn't happened in the past ALREADY, for you to life the quote"
mircea_popescu: on one hand you have people with the fixed part "disagreeing", who dress it up as they dress it ; on the other, you have the people with the fixed dress, who call "their position" as they may call it. these are very different, and the latter's easily disqualified.
phf: mircea_popescu speaks from experience, of things that he have practiced. even mpoe-pr's rants were using internal mpoe practices as a model for argument. it's not clear that ptacek has any kind of similar standing, because we don't know what he did. he argues for best practices, which he could've as easily picked up from reading others. compare to, say, djb, who, when speaks about security, uses his extensive qmail (etc.) experience as
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i went to visit the -otc heathen folk specifically to test my working hypothesis, of phuctor as an unfailing political litmus strip.
asciilifeform: which is quite the same as that of the rest of the 'seeek0000rity komyoonity'.
mircea_popescu: phf as long as he's not wrong...
Framedragger: phf: matasano crypto challenges and the new crypto ctf thing he and others did (i didn't try it) are a great public service; i mean the challenges start simple in the beginning but if one followed them to the end, actual reading of recent crypto papers would be required etc.; surely that counts as something? he didn't pioneer anything in crypto, sure.
phf: mircea_popescu: ptacek is a "security expert" and founder of a security company matasano. he posts a lot to hackernews, and is regarded as authority. a simple question "what did ptacek actually did" usually doesn't produce any answers though
mircea_popescu: yes, we're adjusting the meaning of rsa-crypto to explicitly not care, as discussed yest. but this is novel.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: phuctor, today as in 2013, is strictly a 'transform T was applied to input I, which you can get here and here, and produced output O, downloadable here' affair.
mircea_popescu: maybe alf's mp-generator dun work too well, but lo and behold - my phf-parser dun work half as much!
mircea_popescu: the one true advantage of irc as we have it is that well... nobody's hanging on this thread.
Framedragger: (funnily enough, as regards authority, i regard 'tptacek very highly)
mircea_popescu: (on the sub-subject of "defending the power of phuctor's results" << it is entirely reactive. just as doctor defending the power of sanitation. in some contexts it's the only thing a doctor can say - and he can be rendered "ridiculous" by insisting on presenting him in that context, but really, the joke's on the unwashed.)
mircea_popescu: i perceive the following problem : in my (rightful) bashing of idiocies (allinged around "colored coins", "dao" etc, that jazz) i distinctly hear the crushed hopes of people who look at those as a refuge from something else, specifically. i suspect it's hwqat you call "anarchists" ☟︎
Framedragger: as in, any claims to the contrary (of the power of those results) are attacked with such force that it hints at some kind of defensiveness; but perhaps this is precisely what it means to have a political position.
Framedragger: there is a danger of one presupposing the veracity of their own's truths, but this isn't exactly an original thought or anything; just, well, i *do* observe yourself and alf defending the power of phuctor's results almost a priori as it were;
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants to be in the same room as "hrc"'s dead cooch.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i currently refuse to articulate explicit alignments. but, i contend that i should have interpreted that dood's speech on #bitcoin-otc as political speech
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the rando pictures himself as 'playing on the team', like the fat ball game watcher described in mircea_popescu's article on subj
asciilifeform: ^ aha, and ergo public 'pool stats' are approx. as interesting as what 'snowden tweeted'
danielpbarron: not as good a pig wrestler as asciilifeform I guess
danielpbarron is banned from the linked channel, as well as -dev and -assets :D
asciilifeform: sorta like the loon in -otc thread, who brought up 'sipa's head' as an... argument
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 07:13 mircea_popescu: as there's not a single 0 tx block in there, seems the fee market has actually done a lot to fix various historical mining problems.
mircea_popescu: as there's not a single 0 tx block in there, seems the fee market has actually done a lot to fix various historical mining problems. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as in "you're not even wrong, you're lesswrong."
asciilifeform: under $8,000 a year. The Olympic Prison promised over 200 new “recession-free” jobs, at a starting salary of $15,000, a huge boon for an area with the state’s highest unemployment rates for much of the ‘70s. "It's the most sensible idea anyone's come up with yet," Lake Placid Mayor Robert Peacock told the media. As manufacturing and agriculture moved out of rural America, the prison industry moved in.'
asciilifeform: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-time-that-the-us-turned-an-olympic-village-into-a-prison << lulzy. e.g., 'If prison construction in urban and suburban areas triggered not-in-my-backyard backlash, prison construction in rural areas, and upstate New York in particular, became seen as an economic development solution. According to officials of the local antipoverty program, half of Essex County households survived on an income
trinque: well mine's easily fixed; however, I'm putting it here show that this is the kind of moron busywork that comes of taking something like RSS as bedrock
pete_dushenski: i am but a resident as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-14#1521208 ☝︎
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu can probably tell, i really loathe publishing half-cooked items.
mircea_popescu: now asciilifeform if cs were well specified and well understood from usage ; i wouldn't be against making "key" ambiguous as to which of rsa, cs it is.
mircea_popescu: and i would propose this as an example of the pernicious effects of category 3 of bad stuff selfsig did. it made people think "key" is "identity". when in fact it's algo->key.
mircea_popescu: as they say, "save this sort of idea for when your father gives you your part of heavenly kingdom"
asciilifeform: but it do NOT see the win from letting any arbitrary bit of binary garbage pass itself off as a valid rsa key + userid set.
mircea_popescu: 3) as it's theoretically nonsensical, it feeds a bunch of idiotic yet unconscious expectations in the mind of the user. i am well convinced that the general "i'll pull myself by own breeches" attitude of "creative" people is both due to and resulting in the gpg selfsig
mircea_popescu: as it's not acctually correctly designed it 1) creates false sense of security ; 2) creates unnecessary byzantinism and "can't pop the hood on this" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure. some classes : as it's unnecessary in the discussed scheme, it 1) adds weaknes through requiring unneeded computation ; 2) gives crevice for shitgnomery for no reason (see anvin bs) ; 3) possibly creates weakness through unnecessary computation on key generation
asciilifeform: the 'fp as authenticator' only works if you, as mircea_popescu suggested, hash over the id string.
mircea_popescu: if owner asks "which this" you are not sufficiently connected so as for you to has his key.
mircea_popescu: b) i do not regard a modulus with a new comment pasted in as "same".
asciilifeform: the structure - as sexpr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally tmsr rsa, such as for eulora etc, uses a fp and armored base90 as above. so there!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: with a hash that long, you may as well simply display the modulus.
phf: asciilifeform: proper ergonomics is a novel thing for me, as documented in logs
asciilifeform: but when eye focuses on particular document, is is vertical, as it should be !
PeterL: you want your screen 3 times as tall as it is wide?
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "smartphone". just dumbuyer.
mircea_popescu: " Good morning sir, Can you please see attached, was at the machine shop this morning and he said this has not been paid as of yet. This is really overdue, the machine shop jumps on anything I bring over, does quality work and gets me back the work quickly. Please, anything you can do to expedite this would be greatly appreciated." << speaking of spam. if anyone wants the enclosed JAR lemme know.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 16:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't, unfortunately, as if the 'hollywood nonsense' were harmlessly decorative. there are countless cases of, e.g., police AND arrestee both, acting out 'hollywood script' from their heads...
asciilifeform: meanwhile, völkischer beobachter: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-github-removed-links-to-alleged-nsa-data : '“Per our Terms of Service (section A8), we do not allow the auction or sale of stolen property on GitHub. As such, we have removed the repository in question,” Kate Guarente, from Github's communications team, told Motherboard in a statement.'
thestringpuller: like the episode were beavis runs head first as fast as possible into a brick wall thinking he'll bust through
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't, unfortunately, as if the 'hollywood nonsense' were harmlessly decorative. there are countless cases of, e.g., police AND arrestee both, acting out 'hollywood script' from their heads... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: people generally like to think faust is a story about someone else. just like they pretend italian cinema is about, you know, that place in europe, and they're ruled by hollywood nonsense. as if that's how things fucking work now.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522409 << "high level guys" see adultery as a "bonus" ?? ☝︎
asciilifeform: not, as i gather, in orcland, there the friend is the friend, and the woman - the livestock
asciilifeform: well i have nfi who formally owned the thing. if it was a public co, as i understand the board can throw out ceo if they decide that they don't like the shape of his nose.
asciilifeform: the phrase is often abused, perhaps it was 'his' as apple was steve jobs's.
mircea_popescu: oh since i'm thinking about it : there's two specific items tmsr wants to bring to the field of probate reform : a) no juridical person beneficiary. no government, ngo, corporation, trust etc may obtain as much as a farthing from any succession. physical persons only. b) no tax or fee of any kind may be levied against succession. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (likbez #3 : that the socialist shithead can not think of anything because too obsessed with anthill fetish should be informative as to his braindamage)
mircea_popescu: (likbez : ant worker is not genetically distinct from ant queen. epigenetics (mostly, env factors - as in feed) make the fenotypical distinction. consequently yes, whole anthill, as far as its underlying mechanics go, is found in each worker ant, all you have to do is sequence the dna and explore the possibilities. that such is currently a computationally prohibitive task is not relevant to the discussion.)