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trinque: phf: you can avoid the point as you choose. "there is a better land and we'll be there someday; don'
t eat til we get there, best food on earth, they have." has sunk many companies, and many people
trinque: no reason it can'
t; certainly should
trinque: but we weren'
t talking about that; we were sidewinding onto whatever
trinque: for that matter, your common lisp can'
t even dump a textual representation of its entire state which can be loaded elsewhere disregarding arch
trinque: I will wager one source of load is my RSS thing, which you bitched wasn'
t producing results quickly enough
phf: ascii actually can criticize postgresql from the position of understanding. knowing intricacies of psql is not knowledge (rtrees, caching, etc.), it's trivia ("you have to turn lever 3 and depress button Y"). ascii knows what he needs to express, but he can'
t express it directly, because he's running against architectural constraints of his tool. from that perspective a general "databases are shit" is an entirely valid perspective.
☟︎ phf: tmsr work is primarily defined by its voluntary nature, if i had to do things same way i do it at the office i wouldn'
t bother. ascii doesn'
t know intricacies of psql from his day job, and i think it's cruel and inhuman to make him study psql ~as part of tmsr work~. it's not the kind of know how you get to learn by sitting down with a cup of tea and a large printout..
☟︎ phf: they laughed at me when i said btcbase doesn'
t use a database, who's laughin now
☟︎ ben_vulpes: what even is the point of programming languages that don'
t in2 closures
BingoBoingo: After substantial effort to boil out the poisons. Ain'
t nobody got time for that.
shinohai: No thanks to Spain, I can'
t be running of Moors from my garden all day.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, i also wasn'
t nearly as much of a lord a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: anyway, imo the principal point of the discussion is that knowledge, any knowledge, enacts a partition upon the world. this is the only difference - chucka and man are distinguished not by skin color, not by anything else but the overpowering fact that chuka doesn'
t know what to do with the rtg ; or with pushkin ; or with etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i didn'
t perceive this cheifdom in the chief characters. mebbe my antennae too blunt, but who ? how ?
mircea_popescu: im not capable nor interested in specifying. fact remains - a dozen dudes either did something ro didn'
t do something. if they did something we can discuss the history of the thing they did and what it says about them ; otherwise, we can not.
mircea_popescu: aite, then i guess it can'
t epxlained what the people invovled were stupid for having not done.
mircea_popescu: look, there's no crevice here to slither into. either you grant "they did" or else you admit they didn'
t do anything. pick one.
mircea_popescu: so you don'
t particularily want symbolix metal, it\s just some random thing.
mircea_popescu: when you're the only twelve guys on monkey island you don'
t fucking disagree. because there's nothing to disagree ~about~. because there can'
t be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the circumstance ? this isn'
t a given iyo ?
mircea_popescu: this equality doesn'
t hold. it's not a matter "we don'
t know". we know what the environment constraints are, and we do not care what their internal processing is. if they fail to act rationally they did it randomly.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the above retelling, the 4->5 transition is the coup the grace. they couldn'
t "follow" each other ~because~, in this view, they were bereft of sufficient bandwith to in any sense communicate. so they couldn'
t, like, end up with all the same one substitute cuntcap.
☟︎ phf: pre-symbolics the "theorems" were "how do i computer" in general. those guys weren'
t playing around with custom fpga in their garage that they failed to sell. they were basically figuring out how to build a von neumann machine that can do things, which they did
phf: mircea_popescu: i think people in question weren'
t even thinking in terms asciilifeform is using. they are all deep academia, without external guiding force thye end up recreating windows interface 10 years too late.
mircea_popescu: how did the investment come considewring there wasn'
t anythning there besides "we'll try to win on execution without a clue or a GED, against people with money and significant entrenchment" ?
mircea_popescu: what next, i can'
t justify my saturday night guest list ~matrimonially~ ?
mircea_popescu: so your proposition is that engineers are cursed by the gods in that they can'
t follow each other, gotta follow a different kinda guy and if they don'
t get lucky to find one will just symbolics all over the place ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. why didn'
t everyone follow ? moon was eminently followable.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin-assets split sold with the rest. why didn'
t moon's corp ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you couldn'
t find petition introduced by hoplite because "life's too hard and i want an ipad".
mircea_popescu: (ie, little jane stuck too early with too much male attention she doesn'
t know how to handle (in no small part because her mom's a retarded jen and had not the sense ot have sisters etc) will grow defensive. but it's to my eyes rather a different strand. quite evidently so : she's immodest in private.)
mircea_popescu: mno. his question was "why do these 12 people not see the glory of socialism and dedicate their lives to making every receptionist live in luxury she can'
t pay for"
mircea_popescu: and the problem of "slaves" and "work" is very interestingly repeating. so : if you count all the receptionists in the "work" you're getting an obviously diluted figure. if this is were how work worked, i could build spaceship by hiring 1mn chickens/hair stylists in argentina. evidently, argentina isn'
t building any spaceships.
mircea_popescu: seems a lot of retarded one-man-ism that gave the world 5k "airplane inventors" and just as many canvas-made planes that didn'
t work worth a shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 02:53 asciilifeform: it ain'
t new, it is copy of 'athena' ( the thing found on old suns, that made their ui eye-clawing fugly and painful to navigate )
mircea_popescu: i have a good idea what you're running into : your balance is made up of "dust". can'
t send it.
mircea_popescu: but didn'
t discuss it, and therefore i've not what to link.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can'
t take 32 chars you don'
t belong here.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t know how you can audit a xilinx chip. but if you did, asciilifeform would definitely be interested in hearing.
mircea_popescu: well, we don'
t trust xilinx for critical infreastructure for the ~same reason we don'tr trust windows.
mircea_popescu: so you are trusting xilinx to actually do what it says ? and this with code that you can'
t audit ?
mircea_popescu: as per that ancient "pi digits are also random, especially if you don'
t know what pi is" lemma.
mircea_popescu: can'
t say i have any experience with said modulation. what are the ring oscillators built out of ?
mircea_popescu: i needn'
t prove it. he doesn'
t want to be ~guilty~ he keeps out of doing bad things. that simple.
BenBE: I am vary of things he does, will also tell others to do the same, but absent of proof I can'
t reasonably call him malicious.
BenBE: Didn'
t know that particular project, but have a true RNG based on the WhirlyGig design at warmcat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can'
t take 32 chars you don'
t belong here.
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ BenBE: Can'
t claim I didn'
t learn anything while preparing to setup my project.
BenBE: It is when you can'
t handle the vast amount of data it involves (and yes, I know that vast is an understatement here). Alone building a database to manage all the raw data for my KeyInfoDB/Kompromat project is ~500GB (compressed) keys. Automating stuff for grabbing these at their source for import is a chalenge of its own.
mircea_popescu: for a moment there it read as "i don'
t like $newguy, he might do something stupid." which is silly, let him do the stupid first, not like him after. wtf preemptive dislike.
mircea_popescu: hopefully we don'
t end up with too many people importing this and then wanting to strangle us when the obviously adhoc tree ends up rebased.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger dja mean rss ? that's the fucking point, to truncate, so you don'
t keep getting ancient data
Framedragger: i don'
t think rsa gives all, just 'first 10' or sth
mircea_popescu: BenBE this imho stuff is no good because we don'
t know who you are. who are you ?
Framedragger: i don'
t personally think it's a completely wasted effort if any backdoors in parameters are opened up to all, vs. just the owners.
shinohai: ( It's foss, so don'
t shoot me )
a111: Logged on 2017-04-08 21:17 phf: well, fwiw i've no idea if you can make clim non-ugly (i'm not even sure at this point what "ugly" means. you certainly can'
t trivially make it look the way "people come to expect")
shinohai: "We didn'
t listen to her, and now it's too late"
phf: well, fwiw i've no idea if you can make clim non-ugly (i'm not even sure at this point what "ugly" means. you certainly can'
t trivially make it look the way "people come to expect")
☟︎ phf: couldn'
t find it, but he was basically correct. after jumping through a lot of retarded hoops i got to run xquartz on a retina mac at 1-to-1 pixel, and pretty much any of the type1 fonts at 230 or so look quite good
phf: i was trying to find tuomov's rant from 2007 or so (the guy behind Ion) where he basically said that anti-aliasing is a kludge, and we won'
t even need it once the dpi is high enough
Framedragger: that wasn'
t supposed to be once a minute. sorry about that.
Framedragger: (also, my mp-emulator is saying "why do you spend energy challenging these and not challenging the empire", and my response is that i don'
t give the privilege to the empire of even *challenging* their shit; they're not worth it imho. this all just to say that take it easy)
Framedragger: you could of course say that 'git doesnt prove anything', and i'll have to agree. but if you allow that, then it's reasonable to say that 'unsigned irc logs dont prove anything, either', from the point of view of the counterparty. i won'
t say more, only that this 'thief!!' is very unconvincing
Framedragger gets into situtations where he's forced by himself to read rust code on git. can'
t blame anyone
BingoBoingo: And don'
t even get started on the peacucks
pete_dushenski: eh, minibucks don'
t buy much. prolly 2x what you'd pay!
pete_dushenski: it can'
t really be any wonder that knc sunk. not after reading this.
mircea_popescu: suppose S = "insert if not exists where a = b" prototype. suppose S takes time
T composed of ti for the insert and tw for the where clause. Suppose thjere's 5 concurrent S presented to db, S1..S5. are you saying that IN NO CASE will Sn wait for a Twi where i != n ?
mircea_popescu: the immediate (not even spoken, because they don'
t want to say it because they don'
t want it discussed because they want it to be forever true) retort from the empire'd be that "well, this doesn'
t work". except... it does work.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:11 Framedragger: alright. i will grant you that the end system wouldn'
t be "oh so elegantly simple", because you would have to have a submission queue (maybe something that trinque had in mind). user submits key; gets permalink (immediately); meanwhile key gets sent to master (immediately), and master puts it into "to be inserted" queue. under normal loads, the insertion happens ~immediately,