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mircea_popescu: if people can'
t review the code nobody's proving anything. ever.
mircea_popescu: please tell me this "proven correct" isn'
t just anotgher idle handwave, "let that wizard over there do it"
mircea_popescu: i've been sitting here trying to recall which irrelevant scam "exchange" kraken is, can'
t really come up with much. was in the one the tradehills scammers made in their doomed but cheeky attempt to "come back" the usual coupla years later ? or was the one named after a pirate-era mpoe-pr post ?
mircea_popescu: but then, like a doubt occured to me. what if transaction fees aren'
t having an effect after all ?
mircea_popescu: they didn'
t turn into very sad shriveled raisins of pain for trying.
mircea_popescu: there's no absolute reason most of the dos thing can;
t actually be lisp
mircea_popescu: by now, pretty much foregone conclusion. if we need it, they can'
t have it.
mod6: these cows just don'
t care they they have an NSA fist in their asses. never did, never will.
mircea_popescu: yes. the idea being that your methiod while correct requires fixing all the shit programs. which ain'
t gonan happen. nor can it.
mircea_popescu: isn'
t THAT what the douche was supposed to publish on his stupid blog ?
mircea_popescu: isn'
t "onerng" the thing captain bullshit was pushing in that dumb chan ?
mircea_popescu still can'
t forget the "i have a laptop that doesn'
t exist" bs.
mircea_popescu: the ur-model of this is "modern" ourdemocracy currency. while they can falsify it, YOU can'
t. this means they can prop its value up for as long as it takes for idiot-you to buy into the theory that "usd is actually valuable", after which they can turn on the printing.
mircea_popescu: a yeah, don'
t even remind me of the """major player""" silk road, that somehow was a big deal in spite of not being able to place one pound over xmas-new year's. TWO WEEKS!
shinohai: Well, if you don'
t have the private keys to an address to prove ownership, you really don'
t have anything at all, no matter how many imaginary numbers you are told you hold on a site.
shinohai: ikr? I saw that item yesterday but didn'
t seem Qntrable to me as the "scam" appeared to be related to the Ethereum network self-DDoS.
mircea_popescu: so you know, they don'
t realise because they weren'
t there present in the first plac.e
mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can'
t drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: the whole gambit of the mother is, "don'
t cry baby, see, X is gone now"
mircea_popescu: people who believe violence is not the answer don'
t belong alive.
mircea_popescu: somehow 50yo redneck taking girlie to his house in the woods and showing her a ropey good time for a coupla weeks is like a fucking emergency ; but 20something sexually useless wreck daydreaming about her boss doesn'
t even warrant a slap on the wrist ?
mircea_popescu: this wouldn'
t be the same redirecting links in a html, where _anchor_ used to go to url1 but now it'd (silently, unless you kept actual html copies) goes to url2. but in irc format there's no way to link other than by textually dumping a link, so...
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669131 << it's a thorny bush, but i'm with alf : as long as the TEXT reads historically accurate, where the text links can be up to your implementation. person doesn'
t like where you direct the links, the historicval original is one copy/paste op away.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: ie, they hadn'
t learned the lessons before, either, and not by accident.
mircea_popescu: and the fundamental point is quite solid : the monkey hates thought, because hey, why won'
t you just sit and groom with the rest of 'em! PSYCHOPATH!!1
mircea_popescu: but presenting cogently and in a tight package the man-monkey difference can'
t possibly hurt the recent escapee off the "i can'
t believe it's not plato's" cave.
trinque: heh, wasn'
t there a time when deedbot chattered for pages all by itself? I vaguely recall
mod6: sure. i suppose so. i presently feel bad when pasting in links from logs.bv since it doesn'
t get auto-parsed.
phf: scriba is not ben_vulpes's bot, so presumably the question is why don'
t ben_vulpes put up his own log speaker
trinque sees that #b-a still discusses not much else than #
t, closes
phf: oh word. i even remember that thread, but it didn'
t stick
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669005 << just a poor interface to switch branches for people without javascript. (the drop down thingy switches on select, but if you don'
t have js enabled. i perhaps should add a button hider if you do..)
☝︎ sina: I don'
t really use it anymore
trinque: didn'
t he saw off a finger or something?
sina: hey mircea_popescu in the long list of things I have been meaning to ask, wasn'
t MPex listed on MPex?
ben_vulpes: i don'
t plan to suboptimally anything these beasts
sina: I'm vaguely aware of the shared context, I get there is some stuff that is considered dumb around these neck of the woods, I just don'
t care
sina: I thought I had because I couldn'
t decrypt some OTP, if you recall
sina: ben_vulpes: I *didn'
t* lose them
ben_vulpes: sina, why don'
t you ask what i do for a living?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: six is six, which isn'
t sex regardless of config. because not eight m8!
sina: ben_vulpes: I didn'
t claim it did, the point is, taking your logic to its conclusion one can'
t do anything because google uses computers to do stuff
sina: careful, browsers rely on numbers, don'
t want to further google hegemony
sina: ben_vulpes: professionally I'm not even a developer. Companies hire me because I can stuff at scale. but still don'
t understand how it furthers any hegemony
sina: just because Rob Pike and co work at the goog doesn'
t mean golang is goog
ben_vulpes: i mean i don'
t really know what you're getting at, but why is the length of the bit array resulting from eating a single char 7 and not 8
sina: ben_vulpes: sorry I don'
t think it pasted right
ben_vulpes: in re candi_lustt, i'll point out that anyone in l2 could trivially reproduce her elsewhere, if phf's examples didn'
t drive the point home
mircea_popescu: trinque yes but it won'
t accept a "this is x's rating for y's, honest" from an altbot.
mircea_popescu: except nanotube never actually fixed gribble, for whatever reason (such as for instance - because it wasn'
t erroneously broken but deliberately broken)
mircea_popescu: the expectation that if you listen in a conversation of people you don'
t know you'll nevertheless be able to discern what is being said is pretty much THE thing distinguishing the esl anglotard from actual thinking people with a functioning head and part of a culture etc.
mircea_popescu: thyis is a fractally repeating point : the reason "social learning" as modelled by redditards doesn'
t work irl is the indirection layer. the reason gossipd is undefeatable in practice is... the indirection layer.
mircea_popescu: for perfect meta : re the matter of whether there is or there is not substantial disagreement, we aren'
t yet disagreeing. so far we're just trying to come to terms.
mircea_popescu: anyway, wasn'
t my impression there's substantial disagreement.
mircea_popescu: not really expect anything. people are supposed to do their own thinking for themselves. but i expect i'd notice if my ratings weren'
t right.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental flaw in your earlier mental process, which is periodically discussed in the logs, is that you try to take trust as an objective. trust isn'
t an objective, the reason i trust you is because I TRUST YOU, not because deedbot says i do. and the ONLY use of the knowledge that i trust you is that you can ask me about you. nothing else.
mircea_popescu: much like "wouldn'
t it be cool to make cars out of cardboard, they'd be easier to paint that way" misses the whole car thing
sina: because I didn'
t know, maybe deedbot already does this kind of thing
sina: so (and maybe I am missing the point), you can'
t really "run your own node"
sina: but, deedbot doesn'
t slave to anything itself?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, isn'
t it a wonder latrina isn'
t a racial slur ?
sina: it doesn'
t receive identicall connotations :P
sina: haha yeah, here "down under" is literally burned into the subconcious to mean "Australia" so we don'
t grok the phrase the same way
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The thing is you buy one car every 12 years for light volcano to beach transit. That doesn'
t make an industry, so to solve this retailer has to borrow from mass market lawnmowers to offer a carriage to mircea_popescu that might avoid smiting
mircea_popescu: didn'
t work in 2012, back when the whole bitcoin market cap was < mp's net worth. it's going to work five years later, with 50 bn btc ? because why, everyone's kakobrekla and wealth makes them too stupid to survive ?
BingoBoingo: I don'
t think they'll pass. Not to Tyrone and Petrus/
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 15:11 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain'
t going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained.
mircea_popescu: at least you didn'
t lose it, which is 100% more than what cvan be said for eulora players.
sina: don'
t look at me man, I literally am using a 3072-bit DSA El-Gamal key for some reason
sina:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-10#1668370 <<< mircea_popescu I couldn'
t help but laugh at someone who is saying everyone should fork ricochet.im and work on it instead, or use OTR or whatever then blurt out that some just-barely-specified software isn'
t resistant to SIGINT attacks on your keyboard
☝︎ sina: it's pretty much native, and depending on how you write the program it doesn'
t really need GC
sina: I tried to make a C one but then I remembered I haven'
t touched anything with pointers in about 15 years
sina: mircea_popescu: I pasted the python impl and it mangled my tabbing...I guess I wouldn'
t care normally but it's going ot be annoying for people to paste that and re-indent, any feature about preserving tabbing in your comment section?
ben_vulpes: i only saw it one other time to night (6 of 'em), and i don'
t remember before