asciilifeform: observe also the apparently-inevitable, in '80s iron, blue 'bodge' wires !

asciilifeform: all of'em have inscriptions of the form DDDDDD-A/B, aside from the fpga (has just the #), and the serialnum chip (cypress, and i'ma post full output from the knife+notebook when i post whole orchestra)

asciilifeform: items with stickers, and a few without (engraved, clearly burned at factory rather than by hand) , are PAL/GAL

asciilifeform: ( the column of 'toshiba' is sram )

asciilifeform: it is interesting that literally errything, other than the filter caps and the drams, is socketed.

asciilifeform: yeah possib

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: y'know, the folx who make crapples

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: became 'foxconn' iirc

asciilifeform: ( 74f1762a is a dram refreshtron , gives sram-like interface on 1 side )

asciilifeform: the object on bottom of photo is the ram brd

asciilifeform: 'rev.d. ser. num 433'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this particular item is stamped '91. ver. 1 came out in '86.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a reason i wrote the thing that way, with 'what's the minimum for rsa modexp without ANY accelerations', and only then with

asciilifeform: ( and yes got bottom side pic and close-ups etc. there are no components on side2, only trax )

asciilifeform: and before anybody asks, yes the box still worked on reassembly.

asciilifeform: phf: i fear that it'll take an entire weekend to go through the pics ( plux i wanna redo whole thing with a tripod and macro lens, and the latter i gotta find ) , but to whet appetite, have a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_peek.jpg

asciilifeform: it never hurts.

asciilifeform: ( commands for space probe? )

asciilifeform: i can actually think of applications where you'd want 100% egypt. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 1-6 is 'what if 0 clever'

asciilifeform: in exact same sense.

asciilifeform: barrett is 'optional' (technically errything after ch6 is!) ☟︎

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu or anybody else finds a 'clever' in ffa, plox to ping asciilifeform asap so it can be burned out with hot irons.

asciilifeform: i dunno of any other

asciilifeform: it's not a lie tho

asciilifeform: turns out there's even an early fpga in'ere, approx same density as the one in FG. ( but good noose is, it handles the crapple bus)

asciilifeform: when i get around to pumping'em out of the cam, will post

asciilifeform: speaking of this, phf earlier today i got those pics, and then peeled with knife the PAL,GAL labels and write what was under

asciilifeform contrary, perhaps, to appearances, does plan things, has a semblance of organization

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881525 << dun think that asciilifeform's loaded; he had small bit of dough specifically set aside for 'if bolix appears!' ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881512 << the algo's correct tho. (just nao walked it again on chalkboard) ☝︎

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i dun expect an answer that'll run on my hardware, but i cannot resist to ask, why yahwe and not vishnu ? ( and didja settle this by rtfm of both scriptures, or didja http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876407 it ? ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: apologies to the folx whose blood pressure i raised.

asciilifeform: i'ma still rewalk 13.

asciilifeform: false alarm. i misread own item, it is correct (tho inefficient, as described earlier) , we increment for so long as W is nonzero while shifted.

asciilifeform: err, hm, nm

asciilifeform: FZ_Measure as it currently exists, will undershoot the actual value for some inputs.

asciilifeform: i'ma have to do a thorough rewalk of the logic in 13.

asciilifeform: ( the reason why worked, is that barrett is ( as shown in ch 14a ) 'too forgiving' of wrong choice of constant J . )

asciilifeform: it oughta be Index := W_Mux(Index + b, Index, W_ZeroP(W)); .

asciilifeform: and , when tested on 1e6 FG outputs, worked accidentally

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on rereading, i fear that my orig algo is actually ~wrong~

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the relation b/w danielpbarron's scriptures & reality

asciilifeform: ( ... or that it is possible to get folx to 'install' yer priors, by throwing them repeatedly ?? )

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: do you believe that it is possible to have a meaningful exchange without shared priors ?

asciilifeform: ( warning: uncorrected draft, harmful or fatal if swallowed(tm) ! )

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/14b_peek.html << sneak preview of subj

asciilifeform: ( to demonstrate ~space~ as well as time of the algo )

asciilifeform: btw 14b contains a http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2753 -style 'electrical' illustration of barrett, as well as the coad

asciilifeform: ( user porting ffa to new irons is expected to run the litmus )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881465 << will add to this : on any hypothetical iron where add and sub aint constant-time ( i know of none , but could hypothetically exist in fyooyoor ) the overall 'is modexp constant-time' litmus will ring alarm. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma add the above massaged ver to the mailbag sect of 14b.

asciilifeform: btw, FZ_Measure only happens 1nce during a modexp, and is around 0.01% of the cpu cost. but i'd still like to have the simplest mechanism.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881459 << err, W_NZeroP ☝︎

asciilifeform: fwiw correctly-baked sels work 100% when linked, hence why i kept the script around as it currently stands

asciilifeform: ( it triggers if you make a selection and then unmake )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881458 << this is known bug in my ver of mircea_popescu's script, i'ma fix it , but 1st priority is ffaism currently ☝︎

asciilifeform: the loop cranks, but the index only gotta crank when nonzerobit

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you mean

asciilifeform: afaik on all known irons. ☟︎

asciilifeform: word+word additions are O(1)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it gotta crank Index forward. but nao that i think about it, could be equiv. : Index := Index + W_ZeroP(W) . ☟︎

asciilifeform brb,teatime

asciilifeform: hey, christ spoke to terry davis and told him how to achieve nirvana. a+++.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall yer http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704268 observation ? imho the christians divided by 0 when they nixed their ( whatever its problems at the time ) structure of authority. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835417 , orig via a mircea_popescu piece ☝︎

asciilifeform: !#s oxcart

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i find fascinating the parallel b/w ameri-christianity and items like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881006 ☝︎

asciilifeform: the hasids at least weren't wanking in eng

asciilifeform: they set'em going as soon as sailed and went out of range of euro lymphocytes

asciilifeform: a++ effective, time-tested chumpatron in 'new world'

asciilifeform: the latter laugh all the way to the bank. (didja ever see a 'mega-church' when toured usa ?)

asciilifeform: also observe how they dun do crusades, jihads, on washington, instead they tithe to buy mcmansion for self-proclaimed mcmoron popes in nebraska etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you oughta see the 'theology' pushed by some of the moar 'advanced' ameri-church folx. where jizzus... spoke english

asciilifeform: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/28554/28554-h/28554-h.htm << for folx who like lesson in fiction form.

asciilifeform: as i currently understand, the cn folx have own, and quite diff, set of cognitive bugs, quite unlike the anglos

asciilifeform cannot say yet

asciilifeform: the twist is that actual chinese may or may not have this property.

asciilifeform: some benighted folx think this only applies to prog langs -- mno.

asciilifeform: ... and particles of stupid

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876445 << subj ☝︎

asciilifeform: aaha

asciilifeform: ( the jesuits baked. and it's a riot. when jp was pried open in 19th c, the euros found some 'christians', promptly barfed -- the cleanup job shogunate did wasn't quite 100%.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you should see the jp bible some time.

asciilifeform: newton somehow pulled off the sitting on two chairs biz, but most folx aint newton

asciilifeform: the logical result of trying to physically move into a fictional palace is terry davis's train ride.

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had a piece re macroscale version of cellular apoptosis.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877614 makes me suspect he's already eltsining ☝︎

asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu !

asciilifeform: i'm sadly in a pile of saecular shit atm, and on top of that behind sched in ffa. so will be slow.

asciilifeform: ( apparently it isn't merely plug an' fughet, gotta config it to pretend to be crapple disk, and then will need coupla bolix partitions also.. )

asciilifeform: phf: relatedly, uncrated that 'scsi2sd' thing last night, will photo also when i get it connected

asciilifeform: phf: he answrd specifically re the 'macivory'. but i havent seen inside his treasurechest, so cannot say if he is mistaken and lost it

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881345 << already replied that he got'em on paper, but in treasure chest on wrong coast ( he moved to west. ) i answered with offer to pay his flight to get'em plus what to make it worth his while. no answ to this just yet. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and the xray, wheni get it.

asciilifeform: phf: and yes i'ma post 25mpixel shots of top, bottlm, ditto for daughterboard, and full chip id with links to datashits

asciilifeform: 'sapper errs 1ce', could take another 10y to get a 2nd 'ivory' if i kill this one.

asciilifeform: gotta clear the antistatic vivisectiom table.

asciilifeform: phf: apologies for slow, but i havent, believe or not, popped the thing yet