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thestringpuller: "RAND_poll seeds the random number generator using a system-specific entropy source, which is /dev/urandom on UNIX-like operating systems" << so openssl default is PRNG??? RE: "The urandom device may lack sufficient entropy for your needs, and you might want to reseed it immediately from /dev/random. On Unix and other operating systems that provide the block device, you can use RAND_load_file to load directly from /dev/random."
mircea_popescu: openssl can't be trusted to actually use entropy in the first place.
thestringpuller: kernel patch as in feed directly to /dev/random ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: that, or kernel
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: would i have to modify how OpenSSL is initialized in order to use FUCKGOATS with TRB? >> https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Random_Numbers#Hardware
a111: Logged on 2014-08-12 02:19 TimSwanson: Because that's how normal debates work
mircea_popescu: and in today's walk among the ancient texts, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-12#792148 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mine thankfully does not. Selected text taken from catalog faq
asciilifeform: you want fine control when tapping
mircea_popescu: to have greater power than itself ?
BingoBoingo: Question: How do you reverse a ratcheting tap and die handle?
mircea_popescu: problem is getting magnets that stay put magnetically
asciilifeform: also mentioned a different crackpottery i had in my head -- to use pair of magnets instead of balance spring, to overcome the thermal boojum (that harrison ended up inventing bimetallic spring to solve) -- as having been tried, unsuccessfully, by huygens
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf the chronometer b00k is spiffy.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp... it puts my kids through college. i got dental!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform $idiots here takes values from {set of dorks working for usg thinking dicking around with freenode connectivity does something}
asciilifeform: maybe it's just me, but i do not want idiots to anything. other than to stop breathing.
mircea_popescu: such as i dunno, the 5th channel logger.
mircea_popescu: sure buddy, keep telling yourself that.
mircea_popescu: imagine what $idiots could accomplish if they put all this pointless labour into actually doing something useful.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/18/the-robot-tax/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The robot tax.
asciilifeform: '... what was once dedication is replaced by greed and sometimes sheer need as the motivation to enter the field.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 20:20 mircea_popescu: it's i realise now, directly the problem - the snippetage. IF a language/method/package/abstract-item-whatever has a lot of "copy paste this snippet" built around it, then the useless worms that opened up and swallowed the immense productive assets and limitless human ingenuity existing in america recognize it for the business-world equivalent of their schooldays : THE HOLY CLIFF NOTES!!1
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-18#1615371 << the nutrient alone is not enough to produce maggots. e.g., 'SWAG' archive ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-18#1241627 ) of pascal snippets existed, was first class . 0 maggotry. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: you'd think 4 comes after 3. but google knows better.
mircea_popescu: check this novel rounding style out :
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 03:08 thestringpuller: !~isup http://mimisbrunnr.cascadianhacker.com/
mircea_popescu: smatterings of "just because x I SHOULDNT HAVE TO y" now and again
mircea_popescu: and "i just want to" is the mantra humming along, all of it.
mircea_popescu: functionalistic culture. "i don't have to understand how fridge works as long as i know which door to open" is the first step to "and then i made the hay airplane but presents didn't drop from sky" after all.
mircea_popescu: and so they attempt to built a career through the process and in the manner that built their "education".
mircea_popescu: it's i realise now, directly the problem - the snippetage. IF a language/method/package/abstract-item-whatever has a lot of "copy paste this snippet" built around it, then the useless worms that opened up and swallowed the immense productive assets and limitless human ingenuity existing in america recognize it for the business-world equivalent of their schooldays : THE HOLY CLIFF NOTES!!1 ☟︎
asciilifeform: so then 'massive trove of snippetage', rather than 'documentation' -- attracts.
mircea_popescu: whereas "copy this code snippet to do json bro" is EVERYWHERE.,
mircea_popescu: same principle. TO THEM they might as well not be there, because in the abstract
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall me trying to comprehend lisp and saying the documentation is absent ?
asciilifeform: also must be shit. for the beetle to smell.
asciilifeform: it ain't the 'well-documentedness' that attracts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: e.g., ada refmanual & rationale, whole talmud, is also on www... but somehow 0 rush to snatch dung
mircea_popescu: but irl, they just happen to be items with vast online documentation. so a lot of dung to snatch, as it were.
mircea_popescu: i suspect everyone kind-of knows this which is why specific items such as "mysql" or "xml" or what have you are so heavy tinged with aversity pheromones.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes, I think asciilifeform is quite right there - I *saw* "programmers" doing exactly that in fact
a111: Logged on 2017-02-18 18:09 ben_vulpes: footnote 3 is a gorgeous little sentence, i don't think i've ever seen the like from a native english speaker
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-18#1615331 <- thank you! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but it's ok, they pay their debt to society by answering questions on experts sex change.
mircea_popescu: anyway asciilifeform has it, the basically scour the web for code snippets much like dung beetle.
mats: somehow not surprised both whiners that appeared on tv are black...
mats: you'd think VA employees could distinguish .mil culture from a threat of workplace violence
mircea_popescu: mats holy shit that's some quick turnaround!
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C5C8E6EE075A38BC03ED6A1920D4CF86AFD9A44E5B28872128DB520746406279 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1665...0247 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '173.212.181.68 (ssh-rsa key from 173.212.181.68 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static-173-212-181-68.ptr.terago.net. CA ON)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/032879D0FB20DDECDC93ECC74D5785164A64D93357D29700D308BBB204DAF6D7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...5977 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.50.76.91 (ssh-rsa key from 92.50.76.91 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (niki42a.b-e-n-s.net. DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C5C8E6EE075A38BC03ED6A1920D4CF86AFD9A44E5B28872128DB520746406279 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...5977 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '173.212.181.68 (ssh-rsa key from 173.212.181.68 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static-173-212-181-68.ptr.terago.net. CA ON)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/032879D0FB20DDECDC93ECC74D5785164A64D93357D29700D308BBB204DAF6D7 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1588...1859 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.50.76.91 (ssh-rsa key from 92.50.76.91 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (niki42a.b-e-n-s.net. DE)
thestringpuller: it also happened recently iirc with the konami-kojima incident (wherein konami stole his Fox engine)
thestringpuller: diana_coman the sad thing is all the good gamedev code is sealed, especially after the mid 2000's renderware incident with EA.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/bitcoin-network-difficulty-climbs-to-440779902286-58917236-yet-another-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Difficulty Climbs To 440779902286.58917236 – Yet Another All Time High
ben_vulpes: !!up tarciboy who's your daddy and did he accomplish anything with himself?
asciilifeform: it is a mistake to describe the agglomerative type of 'programming' as product of 'thought'. it is more similar to what dung beetle does.
ben_vulpes: footnote 3 is a gorgeous little sentence, i don't think i've ever seen the like from a native english speaker ☟︎
mod6: "they have oatmeal in their heads"
diana_coman: and yes, fwiw I don't think they bothered with having anything in their heads, not by the looks of it: hey, it WORKS, right?
diana_coman: mod6, "tight coupling" would be a very ....british way of putting it: I think trinque has it there with "rat king"
ben_vulpes: ahaha diana_coman i salute you that is some serious archaeology
trinque: qt thing itself was an abominable nightmare of a hacked together carve-path drawing tool
trinque: but also there were plenty of idiots that could not think clearly about the problem in the abstract either, i.e. there is a board, it is to be carved along these paths, so on
mod6: as far as this knot of ps, or the qt thing?
trinque: and asciilifeform is right that the sheer mass of the thing made it impossible to lift into one's head
trinque: I worked on a very sad qt project once upon a time
mod6: the graph, suggests, to me, that the entire thing is very tightly coupled.
asciilifeform: trinque: there is no tangle properly speaking ~in~ their skull. when proggy no longer fits in head, programming turns into a brute physical, rather than intellectual activity
trinque: and they just let people walk around like that!
trinque: imagine that this tangling of classes happens in the sinner skulls before disgracing code
diana_coman: aha, I had a bit of a look at ada but sadly no time to properly play around with it; I'm looking forward though to your ada implementations
asciilifeform: (for instance, prohibits pointer arithmetic, or even the use of a pointer in any context other than where it was born; or to any item not in advance marked pointable-at.)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, thanks!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: spiffy article, good illustration of the kind of affair ada was built to prevent
diana_coman: hopefully won't end up thrown to the lions though :))
mod6: i think that kinda illustrates what you need to contend with.
mod6: nice call graph too.
mod6: well, someone may suppose that you'd rather smashed in the head with a simple rock, or this here complex ax head.
diana_coman: I suppose I should be grateful it is done with numbers straight rather than pointers too
mod6: some nasty type of pointer arithmatic or whatever 'eh?
diana_coman: myeah, that was cherry on top
mod6: my mind reels at what the whole slot location mechinism.
diana_coman: social coding thing I suspect
mod6: so ya, sounds like there is really no design pattern, or at lesat not a discernable one 'eh
diana_coman: sure, they have classes and classes inheriting classes and so on and so forth, but as to the reasons for inheritance...
mod6: it sounds like this is /far/ from such a design.
mod6: from there, you would extend the abstract hat, and provide whatever implementations required, including whatever x/y points or whatnot to draw the thing...
diana_coman: it really took me months to accept the evidence that "abstract" is something entirely unknown there
mod6: my mind boggles at how they even have this setup. for instance, in my mind, if you were going to have say, 30 different types of hats in the game, there would be a simple, abstract hat class.
mod6: i just read your article, nice write up. I'm stunned at what you're saying there.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/02/18/the-open-sores-of-monkey-code/ << Ossasepia - The open sores of monkey code
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i;m too lazy to go into the archives.
mircea_popescu: meh whatever, ima two line it. if acceptable fine.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is zcash even big enough to warrant qntra ?
asciilifeform: and also 'attacker' and definitely not 'aaah but we kept the magic inflatron key, what, idiot, you believed that we burned it?!'
mircea_popescu: hopefully this starts popping up in "rape" cases : your honor, the seminal fluid was already mostly absorbed by the alleged victim's uterus.
mircea_popescu: well no cause for alarm then.