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copumpkin: but I'm a nice guy so I don't usually put it in those terms
mircea_popescu: i'd like to have SOME competition. what i don't like is people thinking glbse was competition
BTC-Mining: Seems like the bet is already won? I don't know.
BTC-Mining: I need shares to short it, don't I?
B0g4r7: (I'm asking, I don't know)
mircea_popescu: Oct 01 01:47:43 <Bugpowder> I don't think GLBSE is going to survive
jcpham: i don't have sister
mircea_popescu: Doffx i'll give you .3 of that for your wife. if you don't have one get one we can talk.
___Atlas___: I don't want bitcoin.org having any influence over Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i don't think it goes by count
jcpham: i don't want to talk about how many coins i've mined
smickles: but i don't know how to tell the difference
smickles: well, it's odd that not all the asset issuers got the email, but then again, I don't know how the sec operates
BTC-Mining: Eh, not sure I would have the time. But at least if you found someone who would constructively argue instead of accusing by association. See, I don't go attacking you personally for what MPOE-PR do, I come to you and argue about why it seems like she's doing a bad job for MPEx and why I think you should held her accountable for what she do when acting as MPEx's public face.
mircea_popescu: and i don't believe either one of them, they're both lieing about it.
smickles: I seriously don't expect to go to jail
smickles: mircea_popescu: 1:1, naw, i don't give my self that good of odds going to jail
boonies4u: Diablo-D3: i'm sorry,I don't take that here
boonies4u: noagendamarket: I don't calculate resell value into mining equipment
boonies4u: I don't want bitcoin to become centralized or regulated, but I also don't want it to be labeled as a tool to be used against the state
boonies4u: I don
boonies4u: I don't want TBF to lead bitcoin to either extreme
RogueAI: I don't doubt that there are plenty of idiot people out there who won't understand that no one can speak for a inanimate trading unit
BTC-Mining: I don't care about the voluntary nature of bitcoins, I care about the lack of centralization.
boonies4u: noagendamarket: what is this I don't even
boonies4u: I don't bitcoin to be an official currency by a country
RogueAI: Don't worry I didn't pull a bitcoinic@40 guys ROFLMAO
drekk: might be, i don't think the amount of trolls in a thread is a good indicator, tho. especially with usagi it looks to me as if personal/emotional reason were involved
RogueAI: sure, but I don't think "they are massively incompetent" is much better reasoning than any other
PeanutPower: i think most people don't consider btc a genuine currency if you read the popular press
copumpkin: and I'm guessing that most bitcoiners don't qualify :)
BTC-Mining: Even if I don't like MP or his PR person's ways personally.
boonies4u: actually i don;t
pigeons: i don't want it to be true, but it is
smickles: mircea_popescu: i don't think it was easter island
smickles: i don't see anything virtual about that
smickles: i don't think bitcoin is a virtual currency anyway
ErebusBat: ^^^ I don't nessecarily disagree, but taken out of context that is a very bad thing to have in a news clipping (or courtroom)
ErebusBat: mircea_popescu: I don't get the point of that thread. GLBSE closed down because of pressure from goat?
copumpkin: usagi: don't panic, the records of what you own are still intact, I'm sure, and you can settle your ownership with the asset issuers
jcpham: now i don't care
copumpkin: I don't think it's really possible to make any legal calls here :) your guesses would be more educated if you were a lawyer
mircea_popescu: rg why wouldd i do that lol. you just don't spend it!
BTC-Mining: I mean, you don't manage a fund just for the fun of it...
BTC-Mining: I don't know tho...
BTC-Mining: I don't know for sure, but probably
BTC-Mining: Only reason I don't run funds by the way is that would interfere with my personal portfolio and I don't want to keep track to not cross-trade.
mircea_popescu: i don't understand. how can it trade at 1.25 if you have wall at 1.26 ?!
BTC-Mining: I don't have much ethics I guess then. I buy my own issue when I see orders too low.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I just realized that on your post, you don't answer the "how does one list on mpex". Shouldn't you at least give an email to use to propose you a new asset for MPEX?
mircea_popescu: i have no ideea, i don't follow that much.
OneEyed: I don't gamble :)
GamblingMan: I don't need you to do it for me.
OneEyed: Smoovious: sure, as I don't expect water to turn into wine on my table, if it does, well, so much the better
midnightmagic: OneEyed: I just told you. I don't believe it's a non-scam. Why do you think this is a binary choice?
OneEyed: I don't know, but he would probably know people trusting him to get a healthy asset and that he trusts to hand it over
OneEyed: One thing I don't understand about usagi desire to close CPA: why doesn't he hand it over to someone else if he doesnt' want to manage it anymore?
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: if you refer to claims made outside of the contract, I have to agree with you, however, if you stick to the contract, I don't see he defrauded people.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yes, I understand. But even knowing he doesn't own some, as long as the investors get exactly what they paid for, i.e. coupons indexed on PPS 1MH/s, I don't see as a violation of the contract itself. But I won't redo the discussion here :)
OneEyed: I don't have any share managed by Goat (nor any share at all at this time), so I can't see the message
OneEyed: Smoovious: let's agree to disagree here, I just read the contract, I don't see a fraud, but that is my interpretation. People should learn to read contracts too before investing.
OneEyed: Smoovious: sure, I don't know anything about their dispute. Except that I've seen that Nefario did not explain why he did this, and I lost the trust I had in GLBSE at this time, since I don't know if the same kind of dispute could happen with other asset owners or not.
OneEyed: That was my only point. If he had invested into a mining operation, then the investors would not have lost or gained one satoshi. So I don't see why investors are complaining.
DeaDTerra: I am not leaving, just stepping down for a while ^^ I need to finish school and I need to see how the market develops. I will keep running my own projects behind the scene ;) so don't worry about me
OneEyed: I don't think why Chaang-Noi would be labelled a scammer for not investing into mining equipment. I've just posted in the thread asking how it would make a difference.
mircea_popescu: it's ok, i don't have one either.
pigeons: well just because the other funds you ran went out of business doesn't mean i don't trust you that NYAN.A is in zero danger, but the agreement was that NYAN.B could be sold and given to .A investors to ensure that?
BTC-Mining: I don't like that Black Mages version too much.
BTC-Mining: I just don't have so much time to play everything.
Bugpowder: I haven't don't much on IRC since 96-01
jurov: sorry that i don't have inkjet anymore... dunno how it would work with laser
DeaDTerra: Good just want to make that clear so I don't end up being called a scammer or something like that.
DeaDTerra: Yea :8, for the communities sake I would like to keep it going, but I don't have the time to keep the quality where I want it, and I don't want to offer a shitty service.
mircea_popescu: i agree. i don't see how it's worth under 50-100mn.
mircea_popescu: i don't see an announcement, just random bs from usagi & retard gang.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I don't know, it was a question on my side :)
mircea_popescu: i don't even know who you are.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: did you do anything to him? I don't understand why he goes after MPEX every time he can. Do you owe him money or what?
OneEyed: Eisenhower34: I would too, but for some reason I don't understand BFL said it wouldn't
Bugpowder: BTC-Mining, Sorry I'm sticking to MPEX securities, I don't think GLBSE will be around by Nov 1st.
OneEyed: I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm saying that I don't understand how it can be considered to have gained value.
OneEyed: usagi: I don't bother hashking? I even filed *criminal charges* against him to get my money back!
fimp: where does one create a new contract on GLBSE? I don't see that option anywhere
OneEyed: I'd tend to agree with EskimoBob here. I'm fan of "don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity", but in the bitcointalk world it looks like malice is often present
mircea_popescu: Has anybody else noticed the contracts os assets on MPEx are much better than the ones on GLBSE? I don't want to get into a debate about exchanges, but having a decent and detailed contract is a good sign for an asset.
agath: and maybe gigamining, which I don't know very very well..
Bugpowder: looks cool though! I don't have the desire to get my dick chopped off trading forex again though.
Bugpowder: But I don't think the Fed is going to come in and exchange Treasuries for for NYAN.B shares any time soon.
mircea_popescu: smickles not really, i don't youtube so much
nenolod: rg: i don't really want to get into hosting
nenolod: i don't want to do hosting
OneEyed: usagi: I don't troll, I just try to understand what I read. If you call that trolling, then call it trolling, but I'm hardly trying to escalate the debate into some heated argument or make anyone lose time
mircea_popescu: OneEyed yes but i bet you most bets don't get 2btc of losing bets.
nenolod: rg: i don't work at enzu anymore
copumpkin: well, I don't think most futures traders really want delivery
mircea_popescu: knotwork i don't want to build the server tho, just a client
Bugpowder: I don't think GLBSE is going to survive
OneEyed: I don't understand buyers sometimes, two hours before he/she would have got the dividends as well
OneEyed: I don't know what the new law (I don't even know if it's a law in fact) covers
mircea_popescu: i don't even smoke