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mircea_popescu: but phf, who is the author of the thing, did not in fact lose his head and arm by the process of having released the "original" ie sha version. he can just as much authorship a "new" ie, keccak version. and it'll be EXACTLY as much a genesis as that was, in ALL respects.
mircea_popescu: ikr.
mircea_popescu: can i have the boot sequence ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but i mean, what's the boot sequence here contemplated ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, sha is historical accident, nothing starts as it, thence no boot. therefore -- just publish it self referentially and who dun like can go to hell.
mircea_popescu: i frankly do not perceive we have a bootstrapping problem. bootstrapping occurs when you have to turn a primitive into an ulterior -- there is such a thing as a bootstrapping problem of the fetus into adulthood because all adults start as foetii.
mircea_popescu: (the "best they could" line is, who could have ever guessed, a throwback to "il joue comme il peut, le pauvre" line in le petit baigneur. because i speak french, what! and "speak" dun mean "my hoovercraft is fulla eels", not here anyway.)
mircea_popescu: just about.
mircea_popescu: and thanks fucking dog for the trilema, otherwise i'd be pretty hard pressed to make that whole 2013 point in the narrow space between two irc lines. or for that matter narrow time.
mircea_popescu: children indeed do not nor ever do play "tea party" without insistent adult intervention -- and even then not long past its cessation. but children very much do play something errily akin to what today'd pass for "bdsm" accuplation, male dominated, female receptive sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: because no, it's not such an idle question as all that -- there is a whole subset of four-five ish to maybe sixish year olds who genuinely look like they're just about to fuck but for the lack of functional organs and knowledge of function.
mircea_popescu: very much apropos, http://trilema.com/2013/so-are-they-really-about-to-fuck/
mircea_popescu: it';s something else.
mircea_popescu: until, of course, post-computerist age, when https://news.artnet.com/art-world/botched-restoration-of-jesus-fresco-miraculously-saves-spanish-town-197057 and of course wikipedia and so on.
mircea_popescu: i kinda like the femtard rewrite of piaget. it's something i always wanted to see in my formative years, "what if there was a monastery of mongoloids somewhere, and they hand-copied the texts '''as best they cou;d''' ?". it'd have been solid gold for the anthropologist / historian of religion, back when he still cared. but... no such thing.
mircea_popescu: ahh, this article. "Some examples [limited strictly to girls&faggots styles, because forcing the sisters to play victim in some sort of injuns&cowboys game is very much not what kids do first and foremost] of symbolic play include playing house, or having a tea party. "
mircea_popescu: dood's happy.
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jean_Piaget_in_Ann_Arbor.png << this pic of piaget-at-retirement-home perhaps best thing in context.
mircea_popescu: re-reading this log, jesus everything gets jumbled by proximity. so : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858837 they = the tartu school ; next line entirely unrelated to this thread, going back upstack to "if mp has keys" alf complaint. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which "children learn best through play" is even true, but the catch is -- children do nothing else anyway. if they learn at all...
mircea_popescu: but possibly meaning was different -- best i can tell the idea was that receptor is incapable of decoding message for substantive lack. usually applied in school context, "class bells draw some kids to class, has no effect on others" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: dogs are notoriously incapable of sound location. cats and humans very capable.
mircea_popescu had heard this befoar as "the dog hears the bells, but doesn't understand where from".
mircea_popescu: the dog ?
mircea_popescu: if anyone dares talk of "mp's influence" in a century in fucking chinese, ima personally return with all my dead friends and feed them dead dumplings.
mircea_popescu: phf "influence" in the sense of some morons that spoke neither french, nor german, nor italian. piaget was fucking swiss.
mircea_popescu: "what sort of blackguard would dare propose that if you give children dildos they'd put it in playdo ?! THAT IS NOT WHERE ID EVER STICK A DILDO! THIS IS WRONGOG!!!"
mircea_popescu: cuz smart people keep doing this http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273 thing, whereby http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 : "i, the all-important lone mind in the universe, can't summon up an image of how the universe'd go if it were took somewhere it never went before, and therefore -- any nonsense i come up with is valid!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: tesla invented the car anyway, i was just making a point, ~in the structuralist style~.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: ditto harlem and so on.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing intrinsically black about jazz new orleans, except for the part where the black people were the only poor enough to still have to entertain themselves.
mircea_popescu: black culture used to create music at a time white culture was no longer for the same reason as the above : they were poor and retarded and didn't have music time-travel boxes.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to revisit the literacy angle... "congrats on creating the music recording box, mr. tesla. the side benefit is that in a short time there won't be any musicians worth recording left, because of the competition to their craft your time travelling device produces will destroy the very economic reason for their continued existence".
mircea_popescu: may i recommend #eulora also ?
mircea_popescu: well, you're reading the spew of a markov process with expectations of terminologic propriety ?!
mircea_popescu: something like that. but this -- more of a 60s thing.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can discern, ru had delayed-structuralism, 50 years later.
mircea_popescu: phf i have nfi that such a thing as post-structuralism happened in ru. at any rate prior to nuland help.
mircea_popescu: but in the end -- no human invention was actually useful. just relatively useful.
mircea_popescu: this position is not without its merit. of course it also proposes literacy as the end of literature ("since they can write their shit to paper, they don't write anythingt worth remembering").
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587276 being little more than "one line summary of structuralism" and so on. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (large portion of what informs "cultural marxism" bla bla on social media today, but that's hardly their fault.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf afaik the tartu school not heretical.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik another (not as clearly delineated) change between 2.6 and >3.3, because shit "mysteriously" stops working.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, i could see the paralel between alf's (not entirely unsuported in practice) notions of "useful physics -- turn of the century, einstein-centric" and "useless physics -- string theory" and semiology/semiotics.
mircea_popescu: anyway. 1800s tech, is the idea.
mircea_popescu: not that this distinction's with THAT much difference in context.
mircea_popescu: phf no that is the other one. semiology is the a c de saussure thing.
mircea_popescu: semiology, theory of signs, signifying and significance.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the situation somewhat salvaged by the happenstance that you can't be any of those under about 60 years of age or so. (with exceptions, but they're rare enough).
mircea_popescu: i almost felt like an alf for five minutes before running away screaming to the numeric method.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to put some meat on the bones of "works with cca 2015 vintage drivers, and them only." : incorrect vintage drivers manage to literally fuck the chip, i have never seen dma errors before in teh logs, now have i seen chips refusing to turn back on and in general hardware level spew, "wrong mode d3", "error -5" etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the soviet-ness of this epic wastage of resources is mindblowing.
mircea_popescu: while humanity's greatest discovery slowly grow moss.
mircea_popescu: so everyone who has any clue as to how any of this shit works and why is busy derping about "intersectional queeritude" among the DD/lg crowd of paci sucklers,
mircea_popescu: all the problems of computer "engineers" would be directly evident to any literary theorist / linguist / semiologist / gnoseologist / theorist of language / historian of philosophy / etcetera. except for the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1780289 problem, where they all preferred to chase the cuntherd instead of paying any attention whatsoever to the nonsense dribbling off the red stapler guys crowd. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in the end, "foss" is not any more coherent, or intellectually respectable, than christianity.
mircea_popescu: which makes the whole item self-contradictory.
mircea_popescu: now, why the fuck they'd use an implicit grammar-lexicon bundle like this, i have no fucking idea. but the fact that they ~shouldn't~ (which they should not) is NOT opposable to me! since they do, i have my argument!
mircea_popescu: it's seem to me that by the semantics of the bizarro world these gnus inhabit, something working is a promise for that something to keep working. because the criteria by which they use things is "hey -- it works" ("we believe in rough consensus and working code", in in-universe terms), and therefore... everything that ever works thereby promises to keep on working indefinitely and for any possible usecase.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, you don't understand how the world works" "what is the meaning of '''new''' in the context of '''similar enough to old for this scheme to work''' "oh, it doesn't PROMISE to stay that way! this pile just works as long as it does!" "which isn't a promise ? and if it stops working, what, time for linux-backports-compat-compat, a set of scripts to update the set of scripts that updates...?" "YES!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (nobody could really appreciate all the complex flavours of the shitpie that is linux until they learn that there 's ~an automated process~ to produce "compatibility" driver bundles for "old" kernels, out of the building blocks of two kernels and a driver. now -- ask to see the design papers of that item ?) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: seems fine diana_coman
mircea_popescu: now, why the fuck would chamberlain choose to only publish a dozen or so of the compat modules, i couldn't guess. but the list there is woefully incomplete, the story goes back at least to 2.4 kernels.
mircea_popescu: by the looks of it, wireless cards on laptops work with os wireless drivers from a 3 to 6 months period around their release. gotta get teh right timing.
mircea_popescu: brought about by y.t. fixing http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-26#1854603 through generous application of sewed out linux-wireless-compat-blabla. turns out the aeteron pci board included (mysteriously dubbed "revision 0032") works with cca 2015 vintage drivers, and them only. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in things that'll prolly need mirroring : https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page & http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/ (lol).
mircea_popescu: o hey, nice.
mircea_popescu: o yeah ?! WELL THE OCEAN CALLED...
mircea_popescu: kids today and this sarcasm thing!
mircea_popescu: doh! i gotta take typing classes.
mircea_popescu: of course, if the place you're in makes this necessary, it is MUCH better to set ssh on port 80 on the local machine and just proceed.
mircea_popescu: will do.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858751 << you can just run curl ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo that avoxi item sounds fine. send you # ?
mircea_popescu: possibru
mircea_popescu: recall when they "all agreed" then all didn't do, and every anglotard was surprised at this outcome, and every sinoderp was surprised at the surprise ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo surely.
mircea_popescu: dude ... i really like my articles. that one is EXACTLY why christianity is despicable.
mircea_popescu: "Sadly one can't mend a tear in the space-time continuum with needle and thread, and similarily one can't repair the fundamental immorality of christianity by superficial moralizing."
mircea_popescu: (this was true, at the time, btw.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2012-08-13#-323008 << ancient lulz in the process. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-08#1499583 <-> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754340 apparently this is a thread that got meanwhile lost. but discussion was evidently pre mid 2016 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: na na
mircea_popescu: upmanship* i mean.
mircea_popescu: whereby i protested specifically the idiotically adolescent onemanship, "oh, bla bla bla".
mircea_popescu: the cn one specifically. was discussion with phf, im trying to fish it out
mircea_popescu: hence all that undersexed boyish scrotum scent i was detecting, in eg "dao".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this may be ; but as far as i can see, chinese is 100% "insurance-against-future" by mass. specifically : if py yi shi ki comes to mean the bad, then it never meant that in the first place. but until it does -- it means!
mircea_popescu: consequently, i don't trust a single word they write down to mean anything in particular, exactly like "how do you know democrat is lying -- his lips are moving" and "why do you have no faith in the xtian church"
mircea_popescu: the euros attempted a ~similar thing with http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/#selection-61.0-65.669 but the chinese had longer to do it.
mircea_popescu: the problem discussed in http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/#selection-297.0-297.795 the chinese have managed to bake ~into the language~.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i very much do not trust chinese. as a language i mean, and as a cultural process.
mircea_popescu: chinese is fucking terrible at specificity of terms, between "she cow pig had kittens" and "alf put opium in his food" because opium is a spice and so is cardamom...
mircea_popescu: i don't know they were doing opium.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: nor does anyone. they azns are terrible at ancient record keeping.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the indian balls of black spice travelled before 3k bc.
mircea_popescu: and, for the record, this MAY be the oldest trade.