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asciilifeform: ( tldr : d00d generated 'threaded cock for smart arse' composites that break various heathen m-r proggies
asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu , diana_coman , possibly other aficionados ^
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rk4Qe/?raw=true << ascii snapshot of same. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/advprimes/index.html << perma-mirror of subj lul.
asciilifeform: ah hrm already in log.
asciilifeform: !#s 0x400286bac15132db85b1c936709f369b
asciilifeform: that's gotta be it, i cant think how else.
asciilifeform: printing press , evidently, sent prices for various r&d service through the roof.
asciilifeform: ( ~3k ! )
asciilifeform: i was similarly astonished by how much the xray people wanted for ~1~ piddling pic
asciilifeform: it is, mind-bogglingly, cheaper than having it done by other hands, even chinese.
asciilifeform: micrograph, seems , will prolly have to wait until i get actual microscope here.
asciilifeform: phf: eh it's just pcb xray, not micrograph of ic
asciilifeform: ( also possibly of phf interest, the scsi replacement gadget is an a++ win, full docs at http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2943 )
asciilifeform: ( to go with the http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2913 item )
asciilifeform: phf: on other front entirely, you may find interesting, asciilifeform built an xray machine, some time in coming weeks when i get coupla otherwise free hrs, will take pics of the bolix..
asciilifeform: arguably barrett is the heavy ch., the algo in the given form dun appear anywhere else (e.g. knuth) and so reqs eating the included proof.
asciilifeform: eh, gcd is what, 100ln.
asciilifeform: ty phf !
asciilifeform: phf: canhaz ch15 snarf plox ?
asciilifeform: wb phf
asciilifeform: will be interesting to test on '9000' koch-generated primes, and see if any... aint
asciilifeform: 2.541s / 4096b. input.
asciilifeform: ^ corrected in re diana_coman thread; and no longer relies on the squaring limit conjecture mentioned earlier.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in sneap peeks, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rXJ9o/?raw=true << current draft of m-r litmus.
asciilifeform: ( twice-ex ??!11 )
asciilifeform: lol ben_vulpes ex ?!
asciilifeform: lol i missed this
asciilifeform: lol wai would it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was speaking of the variant where you contact manufacturer and upload toolings etc. and pay. rather than konsoomer retail.
asciilifeform: the xyz-pnoje-etc people -- do not pay for it, simply.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: from experience, i know that one can get decent-quality items built in cn if one simply ~pays for it~
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've nfi
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9W8vS << typical subj unit.
asciilifeform doesn't have 1 here, given as never yet perceived any pressing need for such thing
asciilifeform: fwiw a standard commercial cesium clock sells 2ndhand for about 2/3 of what bolix did..
asciilifeform: i cannot resist to throw some petrol in the clocks fire : in the national museum in washingtonistan, i saw a matchbox-sized (1990s) device claiming to be miniaturized cesium clock. why the item aint available for a few bux from middlekingdom, however, remains to me a mystery. ( possibly in fact sham; or possibly some other explanation. )
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu , diana_coman
asciilifeform bbl:maffs
asciilifeform: ( the problem with doing so, is the 'aging' effect -- the amt of jitter tends to vary as time passes; and the fact of it being a rather expensive means of collecting thermal noise, resistor worx very similarly and costs 1% of what xtal costs )
asciilifeform: incidentally, even txco has high enuff 'jitter' that fairly good rng can and has been built solely from'em.
asciilifeform: https://www5.epsondevice.com/en/products/tcxo < subj.
asciilifeform: i use'em ('txco' being the generic term for subj) in radio.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness - same jp folx (and others) also sell a temp-controlled 'oven' xtal, warrantied to 1 ppm. these draw lotsa current, comparatively, and cost 50x moar, so i did not use in FG ( where the accuracy of the oscillator is solely to put out the expected baud rate, and it dun do any good to make it substantially higher than the receiving machine's )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last comment has jpg link, sits in modqueue
asciilifeform brb,meat
asciilifeform: i'ma not pollute the log then.
asciilifeform: aaah ok
asciilifeform: answ^3.
asciilifeform: ( and additionally http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754462 apropos ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-17#1614928 << a++ vintage ref on subj, btw ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: done
asciilifeform: aite, 1s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to reformulate -- in order for redundancy to do anyffin (whether yer dealing with clocks, or RNGs, or any other instrument) the error gotta be ~uncorrelated~ b/w the units
asciilifeform: answr't^2.
asciilifeform: iirc we ~did~ have a thread where 'why didn't they make a chronometer that can be stuffed up arse, for constant temp' tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you were looking for a 'k vs r -strategy' illustration, this is prolly the worst possible 1. i'dve used , e.g., 'columbus send 3 $maxint boats but vikings did same with 9000 dragonheads costing ~epsilon ea.' or sumthing like it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/the-three-watches/#comment-127588
asciilifeform: ( unless it did so during the 1st r - 1 . )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to reformulate: need proof that the working reg will never equal 1 or n - 1 ~after~ r - 1 shots.
asciilifeform: this is as it should be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun fughet to link to prikoke, also, asciilifeform still wont cry, promise.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841558 << illustrated. ☝︎
asciilifeform: re fishes -- ru folklore notably contains ~2~ wish-granting fish stories : 1, the internationally familiar one, where old fishwife keeps ramping up the wishitude until she overflows the register and gets fucked; and ~other~, where young lad knows how to use the fish, and gets half of kingdom , via http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841561 process ☝︎
asciilifeform: speaking of 'where to stop', diana_coman i still dunhave a Troo proof that after r - 1 shots, the squaring loop really does always cycle; so unless i find one, i'ma have to put in a mux there. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( e.g. don't ask the golden fish to 'explain turbulence!' )
asciilifeform read the magick pike fish tale as a kid, and therefore knows where to stop!111
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: and hey, asciilifeform is not even the worst horse in that gluefactory, the 1000 btc or whatever it was i calculated then, is still coupla orders of magnitude smaller than that d00d we had who 'couldn't do' until he had orbiting station with solar sail or what was it ( kanzure ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't seem to dredge it up in O(1). feel free to cite the summary tho, if writing a piece to laff at asciilifeform , who is big boy and wont cry
asciilifeform: !#seen Mocky ☟︎
asciilifeform: speaking of which,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you might be thinking of old flamefest ( possibly with diana_coman & mircea_popescu ) where asciilifeform was asked 'why dontcha quit yer dayjob' and asciilifeform answered 'would consider it, if , like the 2 of you, had enuff coin to permanently leave slave market , with x% engineering margin' or sumthing of the kind
asciilifeform: see also captain kidd.
asciilifeform: i dun mean 'bust open guts trying to move it', but 'when somebody gets wind that you have it'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mountain of gold brick sounds like a lethal overdose, lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-19#1615434 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly there's >1 !111 got specific thrd in mind ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1061 << see alsox2.
asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80 ( 'rectothermal cryptoanalyzer' ) .
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWH58QrprVc << wave soldering illustration.
asciilifeform: ( and even with the apparently-inescapable '80s pcb layout mistakes -- there's a few blue 'bodge wire' in there )
asciilifeform: shinohai: they were pretty ordinary '80s wave-solder
asciilifeform: bitmaps are a 'necessary evil' if yer displaying spread chix, or mandelbrots, or http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2913 -isms, etc; but for text you really wanna have text.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's same problem as with http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889984 ; not only cannot be cut&paste'd or searched, but on folx having very diff display from orig author's, inevitably loox like soup ☝︎
asciilifeform: can use same styling as you did for the curls etc
asciilifeform: imho it really aint important that the shell colours etc be preserved
asciilifeform: shinohai: 1 other thing -- screenshits of shell are pretty hard to read (on e.g. asciilifeform's display), i recommend to use same textblock as you use elsewhere ( e.g. where 'list of dependencies' ) rather than screenshit
asciilifeform: ave1: ^ ?
asciilifeform: hm it does indeed
asciilifeform: rather than adacorpse's
asciilifeform: shinohai: i dun have any nitpicks , other than to note that the canonical gnat is ave1's
asciilifeform already ended up having to do this 1ce, for barrettism
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : i'ma rewrite my proofism from beginning, to see if i committed any other atrocity.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: no hole.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yours is correct.
asciilifeform: ( in re this subthread, example proggy posted 2d ago was afaik correct )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform elementarily made rubbish on the chalkboard, redoing whole thing nao.