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asciilifeform ~still uses~ 'derive' on occasion.
asciilifeform: neither did mccarthy's orig lisp btw
asciilifeform: ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=295 oblig )
asciilifeform: most victims of this type of 'education' carry only 1 or 2 nervous ticks, e.g. paren-phobia , into adulthood
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's 3 generations of maffs students to whom 'lisp' means precisely this
asciilifeform: mp-wp seems to work great , but asciilifeform hobbles when tryin' to modify it, php feels inescapably like cobol when i work with it
asciilifeform has at various times attempted cl blogotron, but broke teeth on acct of insufficient wwwfu. if spyked decides to genesis his, would seriously consider converting
asciilifeform: good % was ( i admit, did not eat the whole collection, was snoar )
asciilifeform: yarvin's original claim to fame (of a kind) was a short and abortive attempt at this, he dug up a buncha confederate/slavery/etc texts and mirrored/commented
asciilifeform: verily.
asciilifeform: cuz it's headed to http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752#selection-99.0-217.84 .
asciilifeform: yea won't dispute that oughta back up the shakespear etc
asciilifeform: http://flibusta.is is asciilifeform's routine 'gutenberg', been a while since i looked at the actual one ☟︎
asciilifeform: would suck to have it end up like 'dejanews' et al.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apparently gutenberg is rsync'able ( https://archive.is/PWeNA ) , tho i haven't tried
asciilifeform: 'To sane humans, such a character is bewildering, but let's not forget an important piece of the puzzle. Jim Blow isn't there for sane humans. He's there for a very specific category of defective human minds. They call themselves "hackers" or something like that, and the rest of the world calls them nerds. ' << a++ imho
asciilifeform: spyked: i have that b00k, and liked
asciilifeform took 1 single 'day off' and nao buried in tall pile of various chores. will slowly eat log buffer later today.
asciilifeform: ( ftr nuffin asciilifeform wrote in that period is imho worth the electrons. the only own item i even bothered pickling & preserving from that time, is http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/parallelsid/parasid.html )
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/7Pvov << moar from same fossilized www. whether in fact ancient mircea_popescu engl. practice or not, it's pretty good imho.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892248 << 1st i hear of the name, seems to be at least coupla diff people. tho dug up a https://archive.is/WnZJY , which reads almost trilema-like... ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also can include the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890719 lul, if there's space. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892238 << possibly oughta include the tidbit re arithmetical part of ffa being 100% built (can gen rsa primez nao, can do so easily after ch17, where looping is introduced) ☝︎
asciilifeform back inbiz
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: recall, there was a whine circus re subj couplayrs ago
asciilifeform: 'accidentally' driving cock full bayonet in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking rather of the 1 that 'fell onto' that secretute , famously
asciilifeform: sometimes the ball goes into a hole and sits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the ball bearing analogy for simulated annealing algo ?
asciilifeform: ( and it aint as if 'simply aint done', saud princes routinely get on airplane & fuck heathens )
asciilifeform: sadprinz evidently did not
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta wonder, do they grow'em http://trilema.com/2018/the-saddest-person-in-the-world/ -style
asciilifeform: congrats BingoBoingo , btw
asciilifeform: ( y'know this '90s orc habit ? )
asciilifeform: i gotta wonder if he keeps the cellophane on his sofa also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i gotta agree, mega-kronprinz that is too chicken to take the wrapper off the chix
asciilifeform: http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/liquishit/tdog.flv << posted strictly for thread-completeness, i agree with mircea_popescu re it being largely a snoar
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's on a mitsumi gold cd thing, i'ma excavate it tomorrow morning ☟︎
asciilifeform: right, curated w/ index txt
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if you want moar warez from that period, i have a hand-curated collection
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu do you want this mirrored on dulap ?
asciilifeform: decodes, plays, a++
asciilifeform: got it, ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: & ty grenadiers.
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to see it , given that mircea_popescu thought it was of interest
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol before long we'll be doin' http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884320 ☝︎
asciilifeform in the guts of 16b but tuned in & following cuntoo scent
asciilifeform: trinque: adacorpse orig gnat is defo not static itself
asciilifeform: nao this is interesting ( i assume both of you used phf's modern vdiff, which as far as anyone knows is 100% deterministic and dun import 'locale' crapolade like the ancient one did )
asciilifeform: ( and muchly superior to how asciilifeform did trb's 'chicken' genesis, where was stuck giving it as hand-cranked recipe on acct of the vdiff of the period being unable to describe deletion of binturds )
asciilifeform: this is entirely proper
asciilifeform: ok that was actually my q ('is the source of the nondeterministic noise known?')
asciilifeform: i'ma reread prior to asking moar
asciilifeform: i get this part
asciilifeform: right; so why would it not produce same output b/w 2 invocations
asciilifeform: the files pictured in the diff above
asciilifeform: trinque: possibly i'm thick, but how come they can turn out to differ at all b/w 2 installs ? does it munge'em at install time programmatically somehow ?
asciilifeform: if you want to do , e.g., 4096bit rsa, needs iron with at least 256kB of ram . and 2 serial ports, 1 on which to hang FG, other for operator i/o. that's moar or less it, in re minimal iron req'd.
asciilifeform: ( this means that e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832315 theoretically suffices for 'os' on which can run ffacalc. ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: for ffa , the only os knobs you need are 1) a means for getting commandline string 2) equiv. of putchar 3) equiv. of getchar 4) a means to read bytes from a FG .
asciilifeform: refer to ave1's asmistic-i/o (no-libc-of-any-kind) demo, for these.
asciilifeform: re ffa in particular, if yer testing on something truly exotic (in re not having a posix layer) you will have to change a coupla lines in os.adb where i/o happens
asciilifeform: incidentally i expect that results from 'does ffa build' carry over to errybody who is currently using a ffa-derived gpr config ( this includes diana_coman , iirc , and possibly phf )
asciilifeform does not presently have any working irons with bsd
asciilifeform: i also have not tried on (traditional, rather than crapplistic) bsd.
asciilifeform: i concede that i have ~not~ tried winblowz (which incidentally ~does~ permit static link), couldn't think of any reason to, to date
asciilifeform: incidentally, even old-fashioned barbaric adacorpse gnat was well-behaved re '-static' flag -- there's an os that dun even support static link (crapple) and it will properly barf there, rather than silently build dynamic ( incidentally can still build a runnable ffa there, fwiw, in debug mode -- see readme.txt )
asciilifeform: ( in the case of x64 and arm64 both. )
asciilifeform: afaik the only successful builds to date were on trad/barbaric gentoos , on top of which sat adacorpse-gnat '16.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1891970 << afaik built to date on 2 platforms total ( if anyone did a 3rd, not yet reported in the l0gz ) -- x64 and arm64. both replicated in asciilifeform's torture room, the former in regular use . thing builds strictly static+musltronic bins, it aint even knob-adjustable (which is as it oughta be imho) . ☝︎
asciilifeform brb
asciilifeform: ( in re static )
asciilifeform: and http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch16_miller_rabin.kv/tree/ffa/libffa/ffa.gpr .
asciilifeform: specifically http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch16_miller_rabin.kv/tree/ffa/ffacalc/ffa_calc.gpr
asciilifeform: trinque: see ffa as example
asciilifeform brb,meat
asciilifeform: iirc those shat flv
asciilifeform: or hm, also possib that they filmed it with old nokia
asciilifeform: i'm told that win9x still common in e.g. southkr
asciilifeform: entirely possib
asciilifeform last saw flv when used '3d studio' for msdos
asciilifeform: lol!!
asciilifeform: animatedgif,64x64!11111
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lolwat??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reichs are among the moar long-lasting worx of man. but do wear out. ( exactly how and why, is q above my pay grade, but seems rather obv that they do in fact wear out )
asciilifeform: (observe, even der fuhrer claimed '1000 yr' not '4evah')
asciilifeform: that reichs come in finite-year
asciilifeform: 'bang' just as good as 'whimper'.
asciilifeform: and they dun strictly ~have~ to die because 'heir is boy who cant keep household in order'. ivan iii, say, clubbed his only heir (+ his pregnant wife) to death with iron stick, worked just as well to end that dynasty as effete faggotry would've
asciilifeform: (given as my orig contention was that ~all~ dynasty eventually runs outta juice)
asciilifeform: i'm entirely willing to believe tho that this is the 400th and ~last yr of that dynasty
asciilifeform: let's have it for thread-compleetness ( i'll even revv up a box with sound & watch )
asciilifeform: is above seg accurate summary ?
asciilifeform: oh ha i did not see the vid
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for all i know, d00d runs his palace as exact copy of mircea_popescu's, and journos simply make shit up.
asciilifeform: possibly brunei sultan could win from some 'tech transfer' from thai, in re subj.
asciilifeform: btw last i knew, anyone peddling this story inside border of thailand is subj to heads-off, and they still enforce, despite whine from washington
asciilifeform: nao how would i know whether trooly 'poorly regarded' or pantsuit libel.