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sina: ok fair enough then, I'll try and adhere solely to the spec
sina: that's the second time in 24h you've said that :P
mircea_popescu: "works in the sense that it does something, not in the sense it does what it should" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the prototype was originally more of a "omfg show me what the fuck do you mean with this spec ?!?!?!" sort of easement.
sina: ah fux, so I can't rely on the steps displayed in the prototype to validate my work as I go?
mircea_popescu: cuz the prototype is older tyhan the spec.
sina: kk, so how come in "step 1" of the prototype, you're modifying S in the halfscrew, rather than R, because the spec says "if bit is 1, half screw S in R"?
mircea_popescu: i'd say tis correct.
sina: can you confirm my intepretation of the spec for mpfhf is correct or not?
pete_dushenski: "The extension uses a bit.ly URL to reach its C&C, but the URL path is nowhere to be found in the extension code. In fact, it will obtain this path by using comments posted on a specific Instagram post. The one that was used in the analyzed sample was a comment about a photo posted to the Britney Spears official Instagram account."
ben_vulpes: how many games of poker they win, how up they are on slots over their slot playing career...
ben_vulpes: i very rarely bother to ask if people actually eg beat the market, convert back to btc, move that btc off the exchange...
shinohai: I always chose to see one as liquishit vs solid
mircea_popescu: shinohai similarily to how farts have larger volume than turds do.
mircea_popescu: "there is no difference between these two" "i think you might've been raped"
shinohai: Laughably ... ETC has a higher "market cap" than LTC right now.
mircea_popescu: "o btw, did they MAKE a ton of money, or did they just IMAGINE they MIGHT AS WELL HAD on the basis of stuff they read on a website ?"
ben_vulpes: "hey what do you think about ethereum? a couple of guys i know bought some and made a ton of money?" "which ethereum?" "..."
shinohai: http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/735299977#p735299977 <<< top kek ETH
mircea_popescu saw bitstamp "volume" took it for price had to do a dbl take lel
mod6: ' was getting complaints, so tried your commented out line of: M : Maps.PMap(Length => 0, Offset => 1); instead. 2) gnatmake doesn't like that procedure horse_test is in a file called 'test.adb', wants it to be in 'horse_test.adb'
mircea_popescu: no fucking end to the cheekty
mircea_popescu: fucktards, that';s another thing. everyone's got teh leadersheep hallucinations also.
ben_vulpes: whatever those are
mircea_popescu: "it's racist to punish people for killing white people" ?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i see 2 lines of the needed 'image fix and a bunch of ??? << so two other things. 1) 'M
mircea_popescu: "go out in the community" of imbecile politruks and aparatchicks that actually created the fucking problem in the first place. noty, stop stroking each other's imaginary importance.
mircea_popescu: "this is BULLSHIT!!!1 how dare the sofa stack end!!!"
mircea_popescu: and THEN complains that the idle muppets hired "to hob knob with congressmen and clog up wash dc traffic while pretending to be you know, lobbysts lite on govt payroll" dun get to keep on pretending, gotta actually work the SAME DAMNED CALL CENTER they tried to escape from manning in panama.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667732 << loller at the butthurt. "sarah" saldana, who most likely is random illegal who went to maryland to study "crime fightin'", and in any case was a political appointee by the worlds shittiest set of politruks, complains that her minions inherited by trump are used... for a political goal. FUCKING pantsuits, it's only pissing if you do it, they don't do it, wut???. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and ftr that is SPECIFICALLY the cow/herbivore strategy. "oh, there's some lovely grass down here. grass is good because +epsilon ev, will make me fat, ill have babies, moo"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's an illustration of typical 'free agent' tho -- i.e. imbecile interested in 'free coke' rather than any coherent action with >1hr horizon. i.e. beast of the field.
mircea_popescu: "let's stash dubious chinese imports in the us as a wealth amassing scheme, wut could possibly go wrong!"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:08 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667724 << see, typical imbecile imperial, going THE WROING FUCKING WAY. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i guess while the sofa stack lasts, the sofa stack lasts huh.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 16:05 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667688 >> gold, '...they often go through exchanges hosted outside the US... unlicensed, unregulated and unwilling to abide by basic anti-money laundering and know-your-customer regulations, rules that digital currency exchanges in the US and Western Europe must abide by... If Congress and regulators are serious about tackling the national security implications of digital currencies, taking on these
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667718 << hurr durr. they've been going on this whole "We shall not name MPEx because it only exists if WE say the name" for 5 years + now. ☝︎
asciilifeform: well, theoretically box consisting of two gurlz with telegraph keys, relaying packets by hand -- not porous. but this is not what folx typically buy as 'router'..
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: router is porous even to quite elementary approach - e.g. stuffing 'optional' fields in outgoing packets full of exfiltrolade; or into timing gaps, etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667692 << this stupid bs being most of why the common wisdom is you want a router in the first place. of course, router also made by same idiots... ☝︎
shinohai: Now it's like he isn't even trying to hide the fact he suck LE cock though.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667688 << doh. it's ~the only reason he's even here, trying to eke out some relevancy for his dead empire in the new world. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 12:17 shinohai: Buenas dias all, hope everyone explores all those nooks and crannies this fine weekend: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB3UjUNVoAQsjJG.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667672 << is that the new shinohai apprentice ? ☝︎
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell Framedragger do you perchance remember where in the logs i posted phuctor's key parser ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: !!later tell sina a) dun need to msg me the day's log, i always read it anyway and b) yeah, the prototype actually implements an older spec. trivial to revise if one cares to, was published.
asciilifeform: i see 2 lines of the needed 'image fix and a bunch of ???
asciilifeform: mod6: afaik only problem was with the i/o in the test proggy.
asciilifeform: neato mod6 , post the diff plox.
mod6: speaking of ada stuff. i did get horsecocks to compile just fine with the changes that were discussed previously with diana_coman ☟︎
asciilifeform: (e.g. the put_line 'image thing, say )
ben_vulpes: my memory fails me on this count
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well, a) being lighthearted but b) the ada stuff?
a111: Logged on 2013-04-04 19:17 asciilifeform: consider a hardware widget that receives a single-use CC number (for $X) from a hypothetical BTC-enabled bank and writes it to a blank physical ATM card, when you send the bank $X equiv. of BTC.
asciilifeform: ( re noosepiece, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2013-04-04#-33357 thread. ) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: ubermenschen like asciilifeform who Never Release Imperfect Code would obviously rule the leaderboards
ben_vulpes: heh, perfectly cranky republican gentleman's sport of code review: nobody will tell you what bugs they found, but they might give you a sha256 description of one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: oh you know, someone "myeah, i had a feeling that wasn't going to work out" me: *explodes*
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/i1Usl << from same fishwrap >> 'Two members of the US Army National Guard have been convicted of running a credit card fraud scheme involving bitcoin... using bitcoins to purchase stolen credit and debit card numbers... using magnetic strip re-encoding tools to apply stolen numbers to dummy cards, after which they would buy merchandise from Army and Air Force Exchange Service stores at US military bases, as well a ☟︎☟︎
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: !~later tell sina mircea_popescu wants mpfhf commentary on his blog
asciilifeform: kinds of exchanges is a good place to start..' << lol!!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667688 >> gold, '...they often go through exchanges hosted outside the US... unlicensed, unregulated and unwilling to abide by basic anti-money laundering and know-your-customer regulations, rules that digital currency exchanges in the US and Western Europe must abide by... If Congress and regulators are serious about tackling the national security implications of digital currencies, taking on these ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's that mean
ben_vulpes: heh tangentially, i've forbidden anything even verging on "i told you sos" without the teller having told
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 09:17 ben_vulpes: turns out one can't `decf' a loop-macro established `place'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667638 << i contemplated whether to show ben_vulpes ~all~ of the mistakes in his proggy, or to let him find for himself, decided on the latter ( it's a healthy thing ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 09:05 mircea_popescu: and i suspect alf is either making a c one or trying to talk himself into it
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 09:00 sina: I am a big fan of the 600 lines of python idea, using libraries to offload stuff to C where appropriate
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667608 << ~100% of the cpu-bound operation is already offloaded to optimized multithreaded c. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667603 << very peculiar question -- fella didn't say what, specifically, he proposes to do, in this involvement ☝︎
asciilifeform: every once in a while i also post, publicly, copy of the db: it's ~12G, gzipped, presently. this oughta be enough for anyone.
asciilifeform: ( pgpdump -i gives you the modulus etc. from any pgp key; then multiply the factors : instant verification. )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:46 sina: do you know if the src for phuctor is avail?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain't going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:56 sina: you can also use eventlet wsgi on the frontend to offload the http side as well
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667600 << i'ma depythonize and desqlize it, but currently lack the time ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the cruncher, the mass dump submitter, and the wwwtron )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:49 sina: mircea_popescu: let me rephrase then. was wondering if eventlet db_pool http://eventlet.net/doc/modules/db_pool.html had been considered
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667588 << i have an ad-hoc version of something quite similar, in there already. it doesn't help much, because phuctor is actually THREE independent (communicating solely via the db) unix processes ☝︎
jhvh1: sina: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 12:50 sina: from my reading of http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ it seems like the "screw" and "half screw" operations, "screwing S in R" means, R will be changed, and "screwing R in S" means S will be changed. the footnote (ii) examples support this interpretation. but in the prototype implementation http://trilema.com/mp_fabulous_hashonator.php ...it seems like the "step 1" half screw S in R
sina: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667677 ☝︎
jhvh1: sina: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mircea_popescu" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 12:50 sina: from my reading of http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ it seems like the "screw" and "half screw" operations, "screwing S in R" means, R will be changed, and "screwing R in S" means S will be changed. the footnote (ii) examples support this interpretation. but in the prototype implementation http://trilema.com/mp_fabulous_hashonator.php ...it seems like the "step 1" half screw S in R
jhvh1: sina: Error: I haven't seen mircea_popescu, I'll let you do the telling.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 12:50 sina: from my reading of http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ it seems like the "screw" and "half screw" operations, "screwing S in R" means, R will be changed, and "screwing R in S" means S will be changed. the footnote (ii) examples support this interpretation. but in the prototype implementation http://trilema.com/mp_fabulous_hashonator.php ...it seems like the "step 1" half screw S in R
sina: from my reading of http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ it seems like the "screw" and "half screw" operations, "screwing S in R" means, R will be changed, and "screwing R in S" means S will be changed. the footnote (ii) examples support this interpretation. but in the prototype implementation http://trilema.com/mp_fabulous_hashonator.php ...it seems like the "step 1" half screw S in R ☟︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: Morning sina .... I likely cannot be of help in that regard yet. I'm still student of the logz there and mucking around with ben_vulpes lisp.
shinohai: Buenas dias all, hope everyone explores all those nooks and crannies this fine weekend: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB3UjUNVoAQsjJG.jpg ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i suspect something in the flip.
candi_lustt: ben_vulpes: 64 steps, 1 bits for the state machine. hash: #*1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
candi_lustt: ben_vulpes: 381 steps, 382 bits for the state machine. hash: #*1000000001000000001111011011111001010000111110100010100100100011
mircea_popescu: the dragons were there all along.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to see dragons in these numbers if i keep this up
mircea_popescu: oh you mean it wasn't russian hackers this time ?
BingoBoingo: Trying to ride that clickbait lightning https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6g7d4u/did_german_meddling_lead_to_british_parliament/ and https://voat.co/v/conspiracy/1921480