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a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 14:56 asciilifeform: as 'iq tests' were used 100yr ago, worked great . i.e. on ~small children~, who don'
t train for it or expect it ; and worx fine for sorting folx into the 4 basic buckets,
BingoBoingo: The pooling would have gone unnotice by myself if it wasn'
t for the right side of my bed being where water slowly leave the roof for the building interior.
BingoBoingo: Other tenants y staff don'
t seem to be panicking, so it's anthropology time.
mircea_popescu: this suddenly clarifies a lingering... not quite disagreement i wouldn'
t say, but something or the other with asciilifeform re iqs. i don'
t credit the concept at the upper bound -- saying this guy is smarter than this other guy because 138 > 133 is a very dumb way of approaching the matter ; or othersise stated, IQ > 100 is entirely meaningless.
mircea_popescu: and so no... there isn'
t anything to talk about ; over beer or over anything else. just look away with empty eyes.
mircea_popescu: ~same with blacks, they picked blacks over latinos simply because there's fewer of them, which isn'
t to say this is any kind of mental process, of course. the moth didn'
t pick light "because", in any sort of moth-personal sense, it just got picked for it by the workings of matters external.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 19:25 mircea_popescu: consider : what makes a bad penis ? that you can rub it all you want and STILL it won'
t spit out. but what makes a good cunt ? that you can pound it all you want and STILL it won'
t in any way change.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that i record protest only should not be construed in a negative view of the man. on the contrary, he has many good points chief among which the systematic deployment of the view that whatsoever the pantsuit claim to think, believe, etcetera has absolutely no direct value, and is no more meaningful than the finch's call. the finch doesn'
t MEAN something by the noise it makes ; it merely intends for other finches to be
mircea_popescu: so no, the male phalic supremacy opressing all others, especially stupid women and dumb ethnos isn'
t going away ; and it certainly won'
t permit the leverage of this "but we like to fuck and disagree!!!" tool to unhinge it
mircea_popescu: this happened because the minimalistic religion of the time appealed to people "who just wanted to", and really didn'
t see why they should pay court to napoleon when there were volumes to measure say.
mircea_popescu: o justify the right of the white male patriarchal capitalist phallogocentric power hegemony to dictate its values and lifestyle choices on the oppressed groups and silence all hedonistic and rebellious dissent against it. Fast forward to the present day, and now the humanities and liberal arts are solidly left-wing in the culture wars, for various reasons. Surely I can'
t possibly be the only one to laugh at the unintentional
mircea_popescu: ciences that get constantly tested and have to prove their correspondence to the uncompromising objective reality every day, no wonder they fell so hard for the postmodernist mumbo-jumbo of Derrida, Latour and Lacan that sweetly whispered in their ears that Western science is only one narrative and "text" among many that are equally valid, and since it is an objective truth that no objective truths exist, science only tries
t mircea_popescu: doesn'
t understand the enormous complexity and the "root causes" of this problem. What can you do, except perhaps escape to one of the few remaining islands of sanity, and hope that the madness doesn'
t follow you there, at least for a while?"
mircea_popescu: "If I had to describe using only a couple of sentences what it feels like to be a conservative, I would probably compare it to the hypothetical but surreal experience of noticing how many people around you have headaches because they keep banging their heads against the wall. If you don'
t do anything, that makes you objectively a "part of the problem", especially if you express any distaste towards having to pay for some incr
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "do you have money ? no ? then shut the fuck up." works so well socially, personally and in general. because they... don'
t. and they know how to get it and know they can'
t get it. hence "cat-v" etc.
mircea_popescu does his usual s%\n\n%\r\r% s%\n% % s%\r\r%\n\n% while muttering underbreath about the idiocy of fucktards who STILL DON'
T UNDERTAND NEWLINE STANDS FOR NEW PARAGRAPH!!11
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: aside the matter that the problem hasn'
t been approached in postmoidernism, i dun see much better solutions available than historically found.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'greater cascadia' ain'
t welcome in my domus
mircea_popescu: remarkab ly small. i dunno whether it's a work-of-art omfg i can'
t believe master stovier managed to get the smokes crushed into that space or rather "we dunno what we did". i could guess, but why guess.
ben_vulpes: fireplace just ain'
t a worthwhile thing unless you've got the woodpile to keep ti at least smouldering all day, roaring at night, and pretty lasses to keep it stoked. nevertheless, i'll enjoy this one while i have it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 00:41 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751176 << nah, too complex and therefore frail system like that. simply : host ALL sigs for ALL things yourself ; let the urls be known publicly and don'
t change them.
mircea_popescu: "there was no technology before fly-eyes" because it... wasn'
t for the fucking fly eyes, that's why!
mircea_popescu: moreover i'm curious how they'll "fix" this. evidently correct solution (throw out amazonaws from hitler list of "acceptable websites") ain'
t happening so.. what ? introduce limit of max 8 chars for subdomain ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, quoted because it's a great example of the ~principle~ of the thing, whereby you don'
t want fucking fleas, because "government" anointed fleas are no better and no cleanner than random from the street.
mircea_popescu: isn'
t it refreshing just how fucking good an "unknown" ie, no women-in-tech language can actually be ?
ben_vulpes: don'
t contribute to linkrot, folks. at least put in a redirect when you take things down.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752155 << really, everything is specifically designed with the single goal in mind of rewarding intelligence, be it v, the wot, ANYTHING. in fact, if something didn'
t reward intelligence i'd very much like to hear about it, because that's the one and only cause for reform.
☝︎ BingoBoingo: iangeker: Ah, if he doesn'
t respond now he will be on later to read what you type.
BingoBoingo: Yes, generally it isn'
t polite to talk to strangers privately except to ask for a loan of voice
shinohai: Well, I see "Bitch" in there. This is why I don'
t translate Chinese.
robbinhood: sorry, I didn'
t understand what you meant
shinohai: Trailer park trailers can'
t drive away when you make sulfur gas clouds feed into the ventilation system either! :D
shinohai: In 6 months BingoBoingo you won'
t even realize you are conversing fluently.
shinohai: I guarantee you won'
t go home hungry.
mircea_popescu: you can'
t have two primaries. what did your mother speak ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:51 phf: hmm, there's a bit of complexity there as far as producing files/directories shuffle, which might take longer, but i'll start with paring things down. i haven'
t yet seen diff/patch sources closely!
phf: hmm, there's a bit of complexity there as far as producing files/directories shuffle, which might take longer, but i'll start with paring things down. i haven'
t yet seen diff/patch sources closely!
☟︎ phf: yes, and they won'
t make a difference!
phf: the reason why we have issues with +++ and --- is because vdiff specifically ignores the @ ... @ bits when postprocessing a patch. a complete vdiff-er wouldn'
t have to do that kind of post processing and can produce a valid patch always
mod6: ben_vulpes: also, patch will not even create those output directories for the build process if the dir doesn'
t contain at least 1 file. it simply ignores them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don'
t specifically need a manifest, as per discussion (have you been reading the discussion ?) ; can just follow the hashes.
phf: (fwiw so far i've been using patches prelude to stuff metainformation there. one interesting property of patching an already pressed lisp system, is that you don'
t want a clean press. instead you want to find what state your system is, and then press it further down the chain. but because you don'
t want to restart the system likewise, you want some additional actions performed as you're moving down the press chain. so i've been using prelude as a place
mircea_popescu: this'd require all file movements to be a separate patch, as you can'
t both move and edit in the same go. which imo is bonus the right thing
phf: diff can'
t know if the newly appeared item that's identical to an item that exists elsewhere in previous state has been moved there from the elsewhere or created in situ
phf: fwiw diff can'
t even know that a file has been moved
mircea_popescu: i don'
t know how it allows if i can'
t move a god damned file.
phf: diff/patch allows for absolute paths, we don'
t them it though
mircea_popescu: but whatever, in 1970 people couldn'
t afford disks with actual directory structure in them
phf: actually phf-shiva-swank is still broken in the experimental patchset, because it was produced by vdiff/patch combination (vdiff made some claims of shasums, which patch didn'
t verify. the fact that i should've verified the press is a different question)
phf: in this case the value of proper vpatch/vdiff is that they never produce fuzzy patches and always validate the shasum for you, but they don'
t do the v-tronic management
phf: well, this goes back to the threads about whether or not it makes sense to patch sigs on your workbench. i use patch in my workflow frequently outside of pressing a tree to bring things from one state into another. i might have a dozen of unsigned patches, that i'm working with that won'
t see the light of day
phf: i don'
t think that's a good idea, but i can'
t articulate an objection. vpatch now needs to know about your wot and wot management, or else the process of patching now becomes explicitly providing a pub key, a corresponding sig and a vpatch itself.
phf: or the thinking that vdiff doesn'
t sig, but then vpatch expects a sig never the less?
phf: well, signature validation is done by gnupg, i don'
t see any reason to bring that whole thing in, and there's very little reason to system("gnupg ...")
mircea_popescu: yes we don'
t have a gns yet, but this doesn'
t excuse us from... doing the same computations by hand as if we had it! it's not suddenly allowable to go "well since i have no running water i therefore do not wash". no bitch -- since you have no running water, you walk fifty miles uphil each way to GET water in a bucket. still wash.
mircea_popescu: this isn'
t work, what you're doing. this is anti-work.
mircea_popescu: mpi is a SUB. and if it can'
t act the sub part it's getting cut out with hot irons and the ground where it stood salted.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 15:39 asciilifeform: i.e. why can'
t 'eucrypt' be a ~sibling~ dir to 'mpi'
a111: Logged on 2017-12-07 16:52 mircea_popescu: so then why can'
t she simply move the mpi/ dir into eucrypt/mpi/ and proceed ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 15:38 asciilifeform: the 1 thing i still don'
t fully understand is why diana_coman's subdir gotta move
ben_vulpes: apparently mike_c's new gig has now banned messages to girls from users they haven'
t "liked" yet
phf: sure, but you can'
t avoid namespacing issue. you're pressing files by name.
phf: well, the nature of v is that you're pressing into a global namespace. in fact that was a property of the original idea to a great extent (hence mp and his insistence on there being only one genesis). we compromised that already by having multiple projects, but you still run into the same issue when you're trying to combine multiple projects together. you're basically saying that the press namespace doesn'
t matter as long as there's no collision. ~othe
phf: i didn'
t necessarily need the illustration, because i understood what you were saying, my point was merely that it's sad state of things
phf: presumably she doesn'
t want to compromise the resultant press because of poor tooling
diana_coman: fwiw I managed to do this to some extent, but I don'
t like this "to some extent"