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mircea_popescu: clef: scrapeboxsenukevps.com ,which is advertising a $55/mo "Xrumer VPS Full Dedicated Server 7 GB RAM Xeon E3v3 x 4 x 3.4 Ghz 60 GB SSD 1 gbps uplink All Tools Included" (by which tools they mean you know, scrapebox, senuke, gsa as well as the venerably ancient piece of ru spamola itself) as well as Bitcoin payments also wants the Fairy Godmother to... get this, to verify her name! by, of course, uploading "NON-CONFIDENTIAL
deedbot: EF2246E285906AA9F6F55406D0F6314BA95B33EB registered as wyatt06.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 20:33 mircea_popescu: but you see ? if he can believe, as i not for a second doubt he does, that "a majority of websites are not built through coding", what exactly is to keep him from believing, and in the end being ready to die for, any other nonsense ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 18:57 apeloyee: still, left-to-right exp (as inhttp://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-14#1725202 ) uses one FZ-sized temporary less than current ffa's right-to-left. (the indexing of E can be reverted to what ffa currently has).
mircea_popescu: but you see ? if he can believe, as i not for a second doubt he does, that "a majority of websites are not built through coding", what exactly is to keep him from believing, and in the end being ready to die for, any other nonsense ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 12:06 apeloyee: it seems I see how to squeeze out one more FZ-sized temporary from FZ_Mod_Exp, besides the ^^ and using a proper barrett; it will exacerbate the above-mentioned physical leakage, though... http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XvDnd/?raw=true <- as usual, not tested.
apeloyee: still, left-to-right exp (as inhttp://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-14#1725202 ) uses one FZ-sized temporary less than current ffa's right-to-left. (the indexing of E can be reverted to what ffa currently has). ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i still think that it makes sense to do this only after every other bolt is as tight as physically possible -- bernsteinian karatsuba, unrolled comba, etc
apeloyee: no special cases. you precalc Base**0 = 1, Base**1 = Base, Base**2 and Base**3; assign 1 to result. then you take two next bits from exponent, starting with the most significant; take B to their power, as above, and multiply Result by B
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 01:53 asciilifeform: now you store bit as ~phase~ of the square wave, rather than absolute steady state of the flipflop.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 12:06 apeloyee: it seems I see how to squeeze out one more FZ-sized temporary from FZ_Mod_Exp, besides the ^^ and using a proper barrett; it will exacerbate the above-mentioned physical leakage, though... http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XvDnd/?raw=true <- as usual, not tested.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 00:20 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722411 << 1 ) ffa is closed form. i.e. it CAN be written as a number of nand gates, with a 'funnel' at the top, to which you present a,b,c, e.g. 4096bit, numbers, and at the bottom in a little cup you get a^b mod c , and with NO UPWARDS FEEDBACK FLOW of information , i.e. answer comes after same interval of time always, and with strictly downwards signals.
apeloyee: I read that as "Word is guaranteed to be at least 16-bit wide also"
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 10:23 apeloyee: asciilifeform: do you plan to test how much information about operands leaks as difference in power consumption? It looks plausible that multiplying 0*0 and maxint*maxint consume different amount of power.
apeloyee: it seems I see how to squeeze out one more FZ-sized temporary from FZ_Mod_Exp, besides the ^^ and using a proper barrett; it will exacerbate the above-mentioned physical leakage, though... http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XvDnd/?raw=true <- as usual, not tested. ☟︎☟︎
apeloyee: asciilifeform: do you plan to test how much information about operands leaks as difference in power consumption? It looks plausible that multiplying 0*0 and maxint*maxint consume different amount of power. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Looks like the Pinoys can't do it: "hello sir I'm sorry to inform you that it is not possible to met your requirement of 14Gigabits but our offer of 10mbps for 504 USD and  we can upgrade that as your needs increase still stands." -jolo
asciilifeform: ( otherwise same problem as writing 'faq' without anyone actually having asked any q )
mod6: but the comments I've seen in there are helpful, as long as they are accurate.
mod6: i do also think there could be paragraphs even written around certain procedures in ffa. but not sure if that belongs in the code, or as a corresponding document outside of the code.
asciilifeform: the 'because you oughta!11' relaying can and does end up in same place as other 'because you oughtas' socialisms
lobbes: That is a point. I can always tweak the announces to be less frequent as people see fit anyways
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724782 << I am more than willing to make required tweaks to get something like this working (allowing auctions to be denominated in btc as well as ecu, having lobbesbot spit out deedbot invoice, etc) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and EVEN IF maintaining a large (and, obviously, expensive) network of nodes etc, you can still run into surprises, as the bitbet issue very well illustrates.
asciilifeform: 'As Easy as Playing Mobile Games' 'Mine & Earn Coins From Your Phone' << slavecoin ?!!
asciilifeform: in the end you will have 'written ffa' nearly same as asciilifeform had.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724903 << this is why i wouldn't recommend writing tests for it for any other reason than learning / checking. it's a prototype yet, only the growth spur should be checked as it were. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 1 d00d and his box is really quite same as ' asciilifeform's hdd '
asciilifeform: note that this will result in exactly the same binary as builds now, on pc
mod6: ANNND. hopefully will grok moar as well.
asciilifeform: mod6: you could just as readily use, e.g., gnu 'bc'
mod6: once we have some solid unit tests in place, i'll look at some functional tests as a higher-level way to ensure we don't regress as well. but that's a bit later yet.
mod6: im certain that even the tests that I do have are missing certain cases -- but its a starting point. and when I publish these, the hope is that people here can help fill in the gaps of the coverage so we can use this as a means to ensure that we do not regress as changes occur to the code.
mod6: i hope to glean some deeper understanding of the secret shifting from these tests as well.
mod6: im hoping to get some tests around the shifting procedures possibly today or this weekend. alf's latest changes from yesterday would fit into that as well.
BingoBoingo: Ah not quite the same then, thing I am thinking of came in box same size and shape as "poptarts". Sold as "you know school sucks too much to teach this"
BingoBoingo: Actually, sort of. As late as 1994-ish
BingoBoingo: Well, AA battery as power supply means won't interfere with heat envelope too much
mircea_popescu: as long as you keep your rsa key safe, of course.
mircea_popescu: i daresay it's the right thing as it is.
asciilifeform: FZ_ShiftRight_Secret_SubW and FZ_ShiftLeft_Secret_SubW do exactly same thing as ye olde FZ_ShiftRight and FZ_ShiftLeft , but don't leak shift amt on machine w/out barrel shifter, at the cost of roughly 10x as much work
asciilifeform: the low-wattage amd champ, incidentally, is the g-series ( as in 'pcengines', 'gizmo', and other sageprobetronic boards ) -- whole box pulls 10-20w
asciilifeform: these are not same as the luser dimms.
asciilifeform: as temporary thing.
trinque: didn't bother checking all, but I don't so much suspect great firewall of MAGA as run of the mill ineptitude
ben_vulpes: there is also "This key was generated as part of the Evil32 project. It is not owned by the user descrived in the UID"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: just nao tested on 2 chromes, loads as pictured on archive link
asciilifeform: 'One of the plans included the South Korean military’s plan to remove the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, referred to as a “decapitation” ' etc.
mircea_popescu: as we were saying, c block per rack is actually kinda narrow
asciilifeform: reading the link, seems as if d00d were in it for the moneyz, rather than for own amusement in his cellar, neh
asciilifeform: a pgptron that embeds 'helpful' things magically in sigs is approx as dumb idea as rifle that helpfully reaims itself in random directions
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track. ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: It's ok, as long as you stay more responsive than Serbia
mircea_popescu: mmm. it's not a matter of sharing expertise as such. it's a matter of breaking the fake media, let's say.
deedbot: 252F0E9554CF3C1AAD91C3B50D2798D6B27564C8 registered as BHopkins.
BHopkins: As for my recommendation, we're not trying to educate the general public through the search results. What we want to do is ensure they only find positive information when the search for a keyword.
mircea_popescu: here's the gist of the problem : when rando, such as for instance bill lawsky, stands up and says "we made these rules" bla bla, nobody in those verticals springs up the obvious "what proof do you have". if i say "i destroyed ETH/BCH/whatever, and here's the proof" the same nobodies come up with contorted nonsense like "ok but what proof do you have your proof is proofing?!?!?"
mircea_popescu: eg caesar cipher, as discussed in http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/#footnote_0_49969 is known-upper-bound, known-average-case etcetera.
asciilifeform: in very other lulz, at most recent count 'p' stands at 3.2kloc, of which 2k is ffa ( this is inclusive of comments, tests, and commented alt-incarnations of certain routines, as discussed in l0gz )
asciilifeform: ( same derps as hosted the koch talk linked earlier, loox like )
BingoBoingo: So, in new lulz... Telestra is soliciting business by posing as independent datacenters
asciilifeform: which then gets used as otp per mircea_popescu's original algo.
asciilifeform: ftr i dun particularly like this style of mechanism. it is suggested solely as continuation of the theme from linked thread, where 'make best of a cpu-poor situation with existing algos'
mircea_popescu: and so in certain context, such as this one, the correct assumption...
asciilifeform: as it would be a p ?= np proof.
asciilifeform: each one in particular runs as mircea_popescu's old algo does. the otps, however, are xored to form the otp that gets used in the end.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 23:13 mircea_popescu: basically the scheme is, you rsa a random bitfield, then you expand that into as much otp as you want by doing recursively Fi = hash(bitfield + Fi-1). there's a limit on i, obviously, which can be set to 1.
mircea_popescu: quite exactly, it's never futurism as the 1920s artistic blaseness. it's always "i will r entrepreneurize" or "i will marry well" or such, translated in the new paints.
phf: asciilifeform: well to do middle aged ru dentist types talked to me of bitcoin mining with a "please explain what the hell is going on". it's very much the opposite of the beobachter take, still as lulzy.
phf: (ipoteka is a ru word by way of greece for mortgage, i've not heard it before when growing up, but now at a certain age it's a main conversation subject/as well as advertisement, so i've been cracking up every time i hear it. i've been forcing it as a catch all term for "orc financial matters" to the confused looks of my ru friends)
phf: every single 'civilian' conversation in ru i had with friends and friends of friends at some point had bitcoin brought up, and obviously not coming from me. in fact not even as part of "talking technology" track
asciilifeform: i saw a little reportage, it was interestingly the ~exact same spamcarnival as seen prev in usa & elsewhere. oddly ~no homegrown orc scamola .
BingoBoingo: As always reading email headers is informative
deedbot: A213A38BE8660D713C0A69B3B9EB9E5F4DE45E7A registered as ccmtacks.
mircea_popescu: but exactly as you say. first, gotta do.
trinque: could see "hosted trb node with levers attached to bot" as a subscribable service.
trinque: yeah, might as well save fee
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: California regularly burns, but a good percent of the time homo sapien malefactor is fingered as acute reason for the when and how of burning
asciilifeform: quite impressive -- it is as if man survived garbage truck rolling over him
asciilifeform: we have a different wasp here, no more than half of this size, but one time i personally witnesses the seemingly impossible -- it rose up after stomped on with boot, and flew as if nothing happened
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu pointed out, and who knows what else, story apparently not quite over
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not even need anything so fancy as explosive disperse
mircea_popescu got a two inch wasp mounted as part of permanent wax museum yest. 5 mm worth of stinger, this bitch had, and the weirdest antennae.
asciilifeform: -SaslServ- asciilifeform_!~asciilife@unaffiliated/asciilifeform has just authenticated as you (asciilifeform) << ahahahahaha
mircea_popescu: no such thing as a temporary spec!
mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road, as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : so us rail gauge is 1435 mm. why ? because the first us rail was built by english immigrants, who kept to the english style. but why was the english style 1435 mm ? because rail started as (horse drawn) trams, and that was the gauge they used. but why ? because when they made trams they just used the old horse carriage gauge, by reusing the same tools. but why did carriages use 1435 mm gauge ? because if they ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Lol @Brauchian Chicken/road/God unity, as the lensgrinder intended
phf: the guy incidentally went through a bunch of interesting but failed enterprises. e.g. he worked on palm one on the downswing, later was hired as a high profile consultant by nokia, told them to ditch symbian and replace it with android.
asciilifeform: just as similar move doomed crapple
mircea_popescu: and the people with the global warming see as quite fantastic all sorts of other theoretical contradictions of their theoretical models.
asciilifeform: the supposition that ideally-correct ffa could possibly run slower than the current one (supposing these 2 differ) i see as quite fantastic.
mircea_popescu: in fact, as trinque aptly points out, it's not even v'd yet, let alone reviewed yet, and so following.
asciilifeform: what'd qualify as 'in production' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 20:57 mircea_popescu: not actually usable for eulora as such, is it.
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way to do rsa for realtime comms, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719192 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( observe that for hole punching, the 'server' does not need to be a heavy duty box that sits as 'star topology apex', but can be any of one or more boxes among the nodes themselves , at a particular time, with external ip. ) ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well... you recall the convo. at the least you're using the ephemereal connectors as then discussed.