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BingoBoingo: Ah, the general admission exercise is reading six months of logs. Sometimes this is interpreted as the most recent, others suppose there is a "most correct" six months.
BingoBoingo: I've heard great things about it as well, but my work has sucked me down a different Republican rabbit hole.
esthlos: my background is as a lisper and mathematician ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: technically .5 btc is "more money than zek is pewrmitted to have" as it is. ☟︎
asciilifeform: could as easily say that the arse inserter in turn missed buying 10btc for the 5bux the marker cost, few yrs before
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:25 asciilifeform: as per mircea_popescu's old piece, 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are'
ben_vulpes: as i said recently to a friend, "heck yeah that sounds like just the thing the world has been missing until right this very moment! buy anything other than bitcoin, wouldja? keep malia free for another decade..."
ben_vulpes: yes well secure enclave advocate now as well, hence "full bore retard"
ben_vulpes: This is where the special features of MobileCoin come in. The currency is designed to utilize an Intel processor component known as Software Guard Extensions, or a "secure enclave."
asciilifeform: the 1 likely item is that 1) exists 2) poor quasiliterate orc under usg magnifying glass from before the 'crime' was conceived , as in the new york deathray (tm)(r) plot.
ben_vulpes: or she actually wired monies abroad, which is just as funny.
BingoBoingo: Not as wonderful as it could be, but compared to Kev...
mircea_popescu: you worded as a freelance translator online, on one of the "hire freelancers" websites, such as freelancer.com
robbinhood: worked as freelance translator online
robbinhood: no but I work as a freelance translator
BingoBoingo: Who dayjobs as English teacher.
BingoBoingo: In other delights: here they have some sort of children's cookie which is notable for not being especialy sweet aside from the white chocolate chips. Back in old country these treats would not be marketable as health food.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:51 phf: hmm, there's a bit of complexity there as far as producing files/directories shuffle, which might take longer, but i'll start with paring things down. i haven't yet seen diff/patch sources closely!
phf: hmm, there's a bit of complexity there as far as producing files/directories shuffle, which might take longer, but i'll start with paring things down. i haven't yet seen diff/patch sources closely! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't specifically need a manifest, as per discussion (have you been reading the discussion ?) ; can just follow the hashes.
phf: (fwiw so far i've been using patches prelude to stuff metainformation there. one interesting property of patching an already pressed lisp system, is that you don't want a clean press. instead you want to find what state your system is, and then press it further down the chain. but because you don't want to restart the system likewise, you want some additional actions performed as you're moving down the press chain. so i've been using prelude as a place
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 20:59 trinque: problem stemming from that unix uses file path as a matter of identity, and allows this to be mutable (!)
mircea_popescu: phf no such thing as empty lines. put a fucking comment in there.
mircea_popescu: "file's identity" as per trinque
mircea_popescu: this'd require all file movements to be a separate patch, as you can't both move and edit in the same go. which imo is bonus the right thing
mircea_popescu: when i say diff a/foo b/foo, diff fails to output "one is in a, the other in b" as the first fucking item on its list of differences. this is because the (idiots) that made diff thought they gain something by eliding "the trivial case".
trinque: problem stemming from that unix uses file path as a matter of identity, and allows this to be mutable (!) ☟︎
phf: but anyway, i'm not convinced that file management is a proper concern for diff. we could add it to a diff format, by placing some instructions in the prelude (which is normally ignored by unix patchers). rm src/foo.c, mv src/foo.c src/bar.c which can be used as instructions for reader with non compliant patchers, or parsed by the vpatcher to be executed. this is all incredibly inband, but conforms to the medium
phf: chain validation needs to only go as far as "does the hash on the file that i'm about to patch corresponds to what i expect"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 21:14 mircea_popescu: v is really only as powerful as the underlying differ is.
mircea_popescu: that's ok, minigame delayed enough as it is.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 19:22 mircea_popescu: that could've meant tmsr-diff. what it means practically is that there's going to be a "new" mpi in eucrypt, textually identical to the genesis one ; and people will be re-reading and re-reading and RE-READING whole lots of the same exact code as if new, resulting in a situation where instead of the problem being pushed into "a filesystem hierarchy standard" it'll be pushed into a "code standard". which happens to be exactly
mircea_popescu: contrary to naive intuition, there is no damage in re-reading old code as if it were new.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu decides to have the eulora programmers not only copy the thing verbatim, as if v never existed, but to retype it, and whack'em with a stick for each mistyped letter, who am i to object . it's his proggy.
mircea_popescu: over time it'll actually get systematized, as in the aaerne-thompson system for folk takes, or as in the tmsr-diff here. but that day is far into teh future.
mircea_popescu: like how oral culture worked, the concept of a trope, as found in folk tales, is really simply equivalent to "and this is how mpi goes, and this is how bubblesort goes..." and so on.
mircea_popescu: that could've meant tmsr-diff. what it means practically is that there's going to be a "new" mpi in eucrypt, textually identical to the genesis one ; and people will be re-reading and re-reading and RE-READING whole lots of the same exact code as if new, resulting in a situation where instead of the problem being pushed into "a filesystem hierarchy standard" it'll be pushed into a "code standard". which happens to be exactly ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes we don't have a gns yet, but this doesn't excuse us from... doing the same computations by hand as if we had it! it's not suddenly allowable to go "well since i have no running water i therefore do not wash". no bitch -- since you have no running water, you walk fifty miles uphil each way to GET water in a bucket. still wash.
asciilifeform: not as if asciilifeform hypnotized diana_coman into repeatedly requestion (unpaid!) support for her (commercial) proj from him.
BingoBoingo first 3 days heard it as "Bom dia" though they adopted portuguese greeting from Brasil.
asciilifeform: ( connection left as exercise for the reader. )
asciilifeform: aha, as shown
asciilifeform: take for instance trb , as seen in http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis/file
asciilifeform: i happen to see the entire unix directory scheme as idiocy
phf: well, the nature of v is that you're pressing into a global namespace. in fact that was a property of the original idea to a great extent (hence mp and his insistence on there being only one genesis). we compromised that already by having multiple projects, but you still run into the same issue when you're trying to combine multiple projects together. you're basically saying that the press namespace doesn't matter as long as there's no collision. ~othe
asciilifeform: the vdiffing worx exactly correctly, as does the linkage, without this.
asciilifeform: imho the item i posted just nao, illustrates the cleaner method. but it has down-side in that one has to give up on 'i get to decide exactly what the unix dir structure will look like, notwithstanding the fact that gnumake was dropped as a baby and has nfi what file moving is'
asciilifeform: now let's come back to my much earlier pill, which i suggested in the mircea_popescu thread. which is imho even uglier. in that one, diana_coman would have to introduce the three mpi-ism vpatches comprising her working set, as ~files~ into eucrypt. and a sed script, and a vtron invocation, into her eucrypt makefile.
asciilifeform: it isn't required for the linker, nor for maintaining v-lineage ( the latter works just as well if diana_coman were to simply add a comment to 1 or more items in mpi dir , that 'this is nao part of eucrypt' )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I need to create a vpatch that performs the change of dir structure from a/mpi to b/eucrypt/mpi where the contents of the mpi folder in both cases are identical; or more specifically for the task at hand: I want to create a vpatch that has as antecedent my previous sane_mpi_eucrypt.vpatch (whose output is an mpi folder with all sorts) and results in eucrypt/mpi where this new mpi folder has precisely same contents
asciilifeform: also it is not so hot , as a tuner, 'shits where it eats' quite severely
mircea_popescu: joke works just as well in either approach. but the буржуй bullshit consists of building an extra-tower of cvasi-funny bolted on the wall of the joke.
mircea_popescu: this is a fine example as to what i mean by http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750802 btw. "oh, i found a couple more". really bitch, you did ? ha-ha funny. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 20:44 diana_coman: although to be honest I wouldn't have defined it as notable, hmm
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751237 << aha, and to think about the various symptoms individually, is rather like thinking of each individual fractured bone in d00d dropped from a skyscraper, as separate injury ☝︎
asciilifeform: and not contemplated as continuous cycle. but waste disposal of existing.
mircea_popescu: it IS better soap than synthetic, but it also doesn't keep as well. so...
mircea_popescu: slave labour works in the sense of education ; not very productive as extraction.
asciilifeform: everybody tries. even with stalin's human material as i understand the ev was only marginally +.
mircea_popescu: well... 3x as many whippers as zeks. no idea where you'd get the whippers, but perhaps try china before naganting ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:17 mircea_popescu: it's true that women also have the avenue of not-being-animals anymore, but this happens to have opened just as most "jobs" got destroyed. so yes that works for a 5% of them, and another 10% or so could pretend and convincingly hope. the majority however, very much confront the pork bellies are $2 problem.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751235 << this applies across the board. ( as amply observed by mircea_popescu and others ). and the males dun even have the 'retreat into biology' option. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 23:16 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of eg, india, where everyone aborts girls because they don't want to pay for their raising to the level where they can be married ~because the trade value of the she-cow is NOT ENOUGH~ is really the fundamental problem of humanity : yes the cost of living went up, but the price of a head of cattle, or a goat, OR A WOMAN as such didn't go up. it went down. it's much cheaper to buy an ox now, either in s
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:22 mircea_popescu: serious about it, they'd have such things as hunter-meat-distribution services oiled and ready.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1751173 << same protocol as everybody uses for their original sigs -- just put'em somewhere people can see'em , they'll end up in phf's thing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (neurotic here is used properly -- as the opposite of psychotic, which is to say, attempting to resolve psychological tension through self-transduction rather than reality-reconstruction.)
mircea_popescu: it's true that women also have the avenue of not-being-animals anymore, but this happens to have opened just as most "jobs" got destroyed. so yes that works for a 5% of them, and another 10% or so could pretend and convincingly hope. the majority however, very much confront the pork bellies are $2 problem. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem of eg, india, where everyone aborts girls because they don't want to pay for their raising to the level where they can be married ~because the trade value of the she-cow is NOT ENOUGH~ is really the fundamental problem of humanity : yes the cost of living went up, but the price of a head of cattle, or a goat, OR A WOMAN as such didn't go up. it went down. it's much cheaper to buy an ox now, either in s ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "snowderella or what's her name DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO STAY ALIVE till the prince came, why should i hit the threadmill". how did he come ? well... that's his problem! and his business! as a prince, to come! (ie, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-12#1749973 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: drives a whole class of neurotic behaviour that ultimately ensures her social marginality, economic poverty and personal dishappiness (not mere unhappiness, as the absence of happiness, but the exact constructed OPPOSITE of happiness)
mircea_popescu: now, as it happens said behaviour is a terrible strategy in postmodernity (basically, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-21#727929 ie you'll lose out on EXACTLY the long tail SV.VC can not afford to lose) ; but the remnants of a pre-modern time manifest in the lowest forms of culture -- such as disney films ; and passive socialization. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750808 << this possibly deserves dwelling. so, as far as biology is concerned, there is a very direct problem sexual dimorphism bestows upon the female, referenced now and again in logs (eg http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-03#1551894 ) as well as the possibly related psychological issue (coy behaviour, lotta words on trilema re this). ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: Not as directional an activity as threshing
BingoBoingo: As is 18%
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 22:22 mod6: diana_coman: there is a 'mirror' feature in my V. But there is a limitation, it has a URL to the root mirror baked in. Perhaps next release this will be fixed and can take a root mirror as a parameter. This way, you could set up your own root mirror/mirrors for eucrypt or for stan's ffa.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> serious about it, they'd have such things as hunter-meat-distribution services oiled and ready. << fair enough. no reason to leave some of these things up to chance.
mod6: diana_coman: there is a 'mirror' feature in my V. But there is a limitation, it has a URL to the root mirror baked in. Perhaps next release this will be fixed and can take a root mirror as a parameter. This way, you could set up your own root mirror/mirrors for eucrypt or for stan's ffa. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: serious about it, they'd have such things as hunter-meat-distribution services oiled and ready. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750551 : that the various "survivalists" and other "prepper" "communities" all over the us are directly reducible to their weight in retards is directly evident not simply from the patent inanity of schemes like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-29#1662898 (or for that matter 10 minutes spent on orlov's nonsense). it's much simpler shit such as : if they were EVEN VAGUELY ☝︎☝︎
mod6: Hm. Well, depends on which project I suppose. For trb, one can send such signatures of pre-existing vpatches to the ML, whereby I can scoop them up and place them in the Foundation's repository as needed.
diana_coman: although to be honest I wouldn't have defined it as notable, hmm ☟︎
asciilifeform: a вредник is, approx, a pest ( as in annoying kid brother )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as a kid what i did with my time was that i ran up three flights of stairs to drink (straight from the faucet, who the everloving fuck has the time or the patience for glasses!) a stomachfull of water, then run back down and keep fucking running. << Since arriving I have been primarily drinking faucet water and coffees with occasial forays into the local bottled water and juices.
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh /me regards the lathe as the definitive item. for the obvious reason : lathe can build milling machine way the fuck easier than the other way around
mircea_popescu: we had a tired old horizontal mill as 11-12-13yos.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 19:30 mircea_popescu: (z80 thing when reset will munge the "videocard" such as it is, resulting in a pattern brieflydisplaying)
mircea_popescu: problem of temperatures etc. if you keep it small sure, but as it grows gets more energy... not so good, leadcooked duck.
mircea_popescu: (z80 thing when reset will munge the "videocard" such as it is, resulting in a pattern brieflydisplaying) ☟︎
asciilifeform: as, e.g., commodore, bk, apple1/2, sinclair, mircea_popescutron, etc. did.
mircea_popescu: that is after all the point, neh, to somehow get as large a headcount as possible through the various gates (born, college, credit cards, mortgage, retirement hgome etc) WITHOUT "harming the environment" which in any practical sesne means... without changing anything. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750708 << incidentally re this, following the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-13#1750128 divide, it may very well be the case that to pantsuit, it appears as opposite! it is GOOD for the exact reason you judge it dangerous. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: and costing moar than the comp as well.
mircea_popescu: the notion that they ALSO do butt things came as a much later discovery, and unsurprising! and not even germane. the core still remained the "wtf is this dumb shit" musical taste.
asciilifeform: still are, as i'm told
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not as a 6yo.
phf: mircea_popescu: i started contemplating the same thing as soon as i said it :)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah; worked as long as there was electricity; and if you lived in a town with any big industry,there would be random blackouts meaning you'd get stuck in the lift between floors
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there isn't ; chiefly because the old folk didn't want to think about it and the kids such as me had no idea it even existed. "suspicious of trad houses" hides a lot of meaning.
phf: i suspect downtown, where they had "early 1900s flat"s, it was a bit different, but on the periphery of the city, where they had "sleeping neighborhoods" it was pretty much the same as described. (we had 15 storied buildings with a slightly more space in between instead)
mircea_popescu: such as having to explain why she's supposed to strip.