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mircea_popescu: ie, you ~have alternative~ : join this usg corporation, wash toilets for a while, climb the ladder.
asciilifeform: it's ~exactly the same thing
mircea_popescu: it's more to it than just that. up to say about the dotcom bubble, the Official Example of the USG Official Rooseveltian Doctrine of Social Mobility was...
asciilifeform: not particularly different from the folx who play lotteries
asciilifeform: so it's a -ev game. and ergo no surprise that the people playing it, are turnips.
asciilifeform: contrary to popular belief, there is ~no moneys in the shitware biz. ( consider : spam makes ~0 ; ransomism trojan of global proportions ends up making a few dozen btc at best; what remains ? ...selling 'toolz' to ~penniless idjits ? )
mircea_popescu: or rather, got sucked into there from some "anti-aging medicine" scam / youthful tripod business, whatevs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, no schooling, started in the mailroom of ias group (toilet paper suppliers to hospitals etc).
mircea_popescu: this is interesting because evidently conducted by independent agent motivated by his own delusions of "making it in this game", rather than the more typical case of employee trying to steal from govt.
asciilifeform: iirc there is even a usgological internal term for the process, but i fughot
mircea_popescu: dude's vaguely amusing under the "trynna MP" angle, i guess, and moreover the process of pantsuit infiltration is pathology as any other, can be studied.
asciilifeform: the conversion of a heathenpit into a honeypot, without skipping a beat of music, is fairly common thing
mircea_popescu: if you wish, this is an interesting case of "orange revolution" of a web property. also rather an era ender, since 2011 they're no longer on the web but on the "deep" web whatevers.
mircea_popescu: this all ended in 2011, when a crack team of damien trevatt + gf (one jasmin choudhury ; split cca 2016 to whore out for deloitte uk) took over and pushed it in a "new direction", which consists of trying to make friends with the tedx zone of the blue usg. dood runs some minor conference organizer http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-11#1723924 item on the side. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it was very much what you'd expect (somewhat anachronistically) of a "silk road 2.0" these days ; replete with moderators scamming users, various independent activities (what the usg calls illegal) and so forth.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-14 21:02 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-14#1725340 << i will admit to being curious re what it is mircea_popescu thinks he can use those folx for. they have the apparent intellectual ability of a turnip.
mircea_popescu: and to round off http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-14#1725352 : original blackhatworld was started by a moscow fellow whose name we'll elide. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: random chick. of no consequence other than in how typical she is for the "liberated" horseface-whatserhname demographic.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: find also if the 12.6kW refers to peak or avg.
ben_vulpes: have yet to see how this pushes quotes around
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: full cab provisions reasonably with 12.6kW if i understand previous threads properly?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> will he fly to change disks ? clean fans ? << /me figured camping out a reasonable walk from one's #1 rack reasonable measure in name of responsivity
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell pete_dushenski http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/S24fh/?raw=true
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/POE4H/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: alf is basically an explosion. now i gotta go to all the shards and say hang on, hang on individually.
asciilifeform: ( theoretically, can haz 'eternal' boxes, welded shut )
asciilifeform: incidentally anybody interested in the diskless variant discussed in last thread ?
asciilifeform: will he fly to change disks ? clean fans ?
mircea_popescu: hey, if he actually flies there and walks their room i'm pacified.
asciilifeform: ( how it is structured. i.e. is it a tentacle ? )
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 19:37 mircea_popescu: so in this sense : an unmanned operation behind a maybe-porous wall is not in any sense useful.
ben_vulpes: also rereading http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721921 thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: know anything re the vendor ?
asciilifeform: can turn into moar reasonably quickly.
ben_vulpes: mention thereof at least
asciilifeform: 3 currently in asciilifeform's tortureroom.
mircea_popescu: i have this utterly psychotic delusion that i don't personally wish to take more than i should have ; nor less ; and that a general system can be built on these premises. why the fuck would he want for me to have fewer shares than i should have ? what sense does it make, he is going to fuck all the women himself ? with what ? solve all the problems ? etc.
asciilifeform: the implication also is that there is a particular kind of mistake, exemplified imho by the zeroasset corp thing in bbet, that is easy to make -- to insist that the energy be conserved at all times ☟︎
mircea_popescu: might as well test it.
mircea_popescu: the veheheheeeery shaky premise is that republic has forum and can communicate consequently is not so constrained.
mircea_popescu: the fiat forced mistake is to "o noes, gotta write it down BEFORE". it is forced because fiat world doesn't have a forum, ie, can't communciate, and as a result there's no such thing as meaningful consent, or negotiation.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fundamental problem, for which recall bitbet works as well as any other recall, is that you have ~0 chances of knowing at t0 what'll be fair at t2, because t1 is ???
asciilifeform: simply re the 'contract is important for what it doesn't say' item
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the basis here.
mircea_popescu: there are some advantages in having equity in some projects, such as that you can to some degree prevent them from going dumb.
mircea_popescu: there are some advantages to having certain people in your equity base. such as that not being idiots, they won't vote stupidtly ; and so on.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re conversion, it's not clear that you'll necessarily want me to convert ; nor that i necessarily will want to. maybe. in general the fiatista "i want all the things" approach is not simply flawed but outright dumb.
mircea_popescu: "contracts like this" are more important for what they don't say.
mircea_popescu: well no, no interest was specified, neither strict nor by reference, so there is no reference
ben_vulpes: how, for instance, does the equity conversion rate get calculated?
ben_vulpes: sounds workable in the abstract to the extent that i understand what you're saying; contracts like this are not something i'm familiar with so i'll have to think slowly about it
mircea_popescu: actually, did that make any sense ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, lessee. repayable in service charges / convertible to equity by mutual consent / convertible to one year guaranteed note at present fiat value in any case. how about that ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i mean yes, there's no way i can foot the bill for that thing myself
ben_vulpes: what would the terms be? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: at the very least i'd like to go there to rack a few boxes
mircea_popescu: take teh babe & minibabe to hong kong, wash state isn't going to hold up much later anywayz.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah just coming up with an excuse to fly to hk
ben_vulpes: 2.5k of which is the bw charge
ben_vulpes: i could manage with fr but eng does reduce the ognitive coverhead
asciilifeform: i have the fr orig somewhere but i assumed ben_vulpes wants eng
asciilifeform: i was actually thinking of doing jp this yr.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's jp-fu too weak to say if works there.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the form works in anything but ru and like, japanese.
asciilifeform: imho it captures the structure.
mircea_popescu: unless im missing something this captures the structure (for teh reasons stated above). am i missing something ?
mircea_popescu: wait, do you want it to be near in form or in structure ?
mircea_popescu: it exploits the a batut (vb, to fight, imperfect) / abatut (noun, depressed) homophony and then of coruse a major trope of romanian humor, lapte batut, ie beaten milk, ie buttermilk.
mircea_popescu: how about this : stierlitz s-a batut cu foc. focul s-a batut cum a putut. abatut era un barbat bine. barbatii bine nu beau lapte batut.
asciilifeform: well all the sense it's ever gonna make in engl.
mircea_popescu: !~translate ru to fr Штирлиц дрался с огоньком. Огонек дрался как мог. Мог был парень крутой. А Крутая слабаков не жаловала.
mircea_popescu: !~tr ru to fr Штирлиц дрался с огоньком. Огонек дрался как мог. Мог был парень крутой. А Крутая слабаков не жаловала.
asciilifeform: see it dun translate at all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i don't get it, gotta be a cool guy to fight with fire ?
mircea_popescu: you mean, ip of the commenter ? or what ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 14:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-18#1726087 << mp’s wp worx on nfsco BUT not the comments spamfilter ( it relies on static ip ). nfsco is also incompatible with mp-style pill against dnsism ( 1980s hand-curated /etc/hosts ), see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654113 thread
asciilifeform has been on a lengthy ro kick but not equal to this job
asciilifeform realized that 80+% of the joakes, don't translate worth a shit, e.g. 'Штирлиц дрался с огоньком. Огонек дрался как мог. Мог был парень крутой. А Крутая слабаков не жаловала.' << can this be made to work in ro ? or do you need agglutinative declensions necessarily.
asciilifeform: ( the staph on your nose will ~also~ take over your cultures if you give it half a chance )
asciilifeform: this'd suggest laughably poor lab hygiene tho
BingoBoingo: In other legends, today some derps published an estimate, HeLa likely to lead to 30 kilodribble paper retractions
asciilifeform: 'stierlitz was thrown from the tenth floor, but caught on a balcony by a miracle. but the next day, the miracle was swollen and interfered with walking.'
BingoBoingo: Kinda how US teaches it. Before war of Northern Aggression, things happened with names occasionally attached. After "Oh noes people and their plights"
mircea_popescu: kinda common symptom this, thinking history starts with what it ended.
BingoBoingo: If chipmunk thought history started with Lincoln, Chipmunk would be fucked too.
BingoBoingo: chipmunk still better brain than most USian
mircea_popescu: sick burn for the anals of sick burns.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'While Defendant has surrendered her passport and cannot obtain another one in her own name, this obstacle provides little assurance given her self-described desire to "burn the White house down" and "[find somewhere in Kurdistan to live ... or Nepal."' << Lol, mebbe shouldn't have got her balls from a syringe?
mircea_popescu: then from there it found its way into (german) police work, and from there to us a coupla decades later. much like everything else.
asciilifeform: or see the rusty staples thread.
mircea_popescu: incidentally fiber check was a major source of early makes. people ended up setting up "shops" in berlin to change.
asciilifeform: ( 'stierlitz walked on the streets of berlin. mueller recognized that he was a soviet spy, but not because of the ppsh machinepistol clumsily slung across his shoulder, and not because of the parachute he dragged behind him, but because of the maker tag on his waistcoat, 'bolshevikess', which in typical russian slopiness had not been torn off.' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: or the even moar sacramental 'Штирлиц шел по Берлину. Мюллер узнал в нем советского разведчика, но не по ППШ, небрежно наброшенному на плечо, и не по парашюту, волочившемуся сзади, а по клейму фабрики "Большевичка", кото- рое забыли отпороть с внутреннего
asciilifeform: re 'wrote that she hates america', oblig stierlitz : '23 февраля Штирлиц надел свою старую, любимую буденовку, взял в руки красное знамя и, распевая революционные песни, пошел к рейхсканцелярии. В это день он как никогда был близок к провалу.'
mircea_popescu: than to attempt to supplant the absent intelligence of the large mass of sub-pantsuit (they call themselves alt-right or whatever the fuck).
mircea_popescu: anyway, here's the proposal : be it proposed that it is actually cheaper to explain to the brighter among the reality winners what exactly they never learned of history and theory, so that they renounce on their own power the assorted bundle of idiocy and sheer nonsense that constitutes the difference between republican and pantsuit or ultrapantsuit ideology,
asciilifeform: 'in the official dachas, amidst the flicker of tv screens and the squal of mosquitoes, the brass agreed that it will be the last generation of brass' or how did limonov put it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess it was, at that.