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l0de: as they are internet neer-do-wells
l0de: I would stress that my audience doesn't take anything seriously unless it's presented in a humorous context or it is presented as ruining someone's shit
danielpbarron: relatedly, l0de expressed interest in running a "trilema infomercial" on his show. I told him he should bring it up in here, as i'm not sure what that should entail ☟︎
phf: i've also played around with treating vpatch as a container. there's a function on btcbase for splitting all of the vpatches into separate objects, that each hold a single file changes (it's called something like explode-vpatch)
mircea_popescu: then if it is, trinque's point goes away because well... file hash as good as project hash for the linear bat.
diana_coman: onth "meaningful" there doesn't refer to code only and if new code in new files depends on existing code in untouched existing files, it may be meaningful nevertheless to update the readme file of the project for instance to say as much
diana_coman: I ran a bit into that with eucrypt but I can't say I have some clear idea what would be a good solution there as it seems to me it's a matter of level considered i.e. file, folder, component, whole project, what
ben_vulpes: it may be that tracking hashes at the file level isn't the right thing, because with vdiff as implemented i can trivially generate a vpatch b while working from a press of a that nevertheless still only depends on genesis if a leaves files untouched and b touches those untouched files only
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
mircea_popescu: "avoidant" as per teh "attachment theory" nonsense that pantsuit "public policy" rests upon
mircea_popescu: so as the reconciler, you get to pick which of ~either~ a ~or~ b to count in your considered oppinion as the republican and which as the heretic. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
mircea_popescu: sometimes lowest effort as typical of tv pays off, i guess.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: Turns out that my supposition wasn't too far off, average Peruvian being about as intelligent as a cuy,
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/Q0fc5 >> 'Thousands of government papers detailing some of the most controversial episodes in 20th-century British history have vanished after civil servants removed them from the country’s National Archives and then reported them as lost.'
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/as-it-turns-out-fireworks-do-not-photograph-well-navidad-in-the-land-of-tranquility/ << Bingo Blog - As It Turns Out Fireworks Do Not Photograph Well: Navidad In The Land Of Tranquility
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 23:56 phf: so naturally i was surprised and delighted when i came to u.s., and discovered that every other person i'd meet was also russian, by way of a great great great great parent who imigrated from ireland, fleeing as he was the repercussions of second desmond rebellion
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 19:15 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox post your puzzle-hash as comment in ch4
phf: so naturally i was surprised and delighted when i came to u.s., and discovered that every other person i'd meet was also russian, by way of a great great great great parent who imigrated from ireland, fleeing as he was the repercussions of second desmond rebellion ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i baked the vpatch i'm working on by pressing to excise_hash_truncation which only works accidentally, as v.pl presses both leaves at that level (first increase_aggression_levels and then excise_hash_truncation); but i don't see a route to producing a vpatch stitching together excise_hash_truncation and increase_aggression_levels without doing something that v doesn't support like pressing multiple heads
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 01:52 phf: i think correct method would really be to get the transaction out as a binary array into shiva, and then have a transaction parser in shiva itself that'll break it down into a sexp or whatever
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: those who are only interested in transmitting voice -- may as well be rust hobbyists
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record and in case it isn't entirely self-evident on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758486 : whenever some self-proclaimed "sovereign" of the fiat sort tries to say "hey, we have a law", the correct response is to a) point out to that self-proclaimed faux sovereign that there exist other just as valid because just as self-proclaimed faux sovereigns (the eu, russia, china, whatever, bucnha them ☝︎☟︎☟︎
l0de: as a free tip from your friend, l0de ray dio
mircea_popescu: i am not in intelligence ; i have my very own intel dept, as a going concern.
mircea_popescu: as in, http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22short%22+%22wave%22
mircea_popescu: as far as mostly 1 is concerned, there's significant interest in shortwave, which is why it's a recurrent thread in the logs.
mircea_popescu: they're in the biofilm as their own oh-so-precious choice, specifically so as not to be distinguishable, wut can we do.
mircea_popescu: you KNOW they'll have heartbleed and orc glyphs and so on and so forth, even as the "security tokens" never expire and the gameplay just isn't there.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 17:49 asciilifeform: or disgorge, via any means short of full bore crack, anything previously written therein , as a file
mircea_popescu: solid and patient improvements towards the right thing ; but preferably after db fix & client split as discussed.
mircea_popescu: then the "10" can be configurable ; or else it can be calculated by the node, (such as "117% of average time it took me to check the past 144 blocks" for instance)
shinohai: Dunno what others think, but I would prefer this as a knob to turn on/off
mircea_popescu: it's in the channel as an ad-hoc thing, "this person is voiced atm, if that's worth anything to you". not intended to prove anything to archeologists.
danielpbarron: in his defense, you'd have to rename it anyway as the mailing list adds the sha sum to the filename
ben_vulpes: otherwise v.pl won't recognize it as a seal.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to have it in the press, esp considering the history of how that came about. but as obvious knob as it gets.
mircea_popescu: recall we had a discussion re star breaking nat crapolade. but you need the stars and a system specifically designed to use them, as there contemplate
mircea_popescu: when you worship your betters you ensure your place in the world, ~such as it is~. when you worship clitler you get nice words and utter doom.
mircea_popescu: 2020 "young writer for the ny times" ain't gonna be 1950s ginsburg, as it ain't gonna be 1970s mia farrow. it's gonna be fungusbrain bigmomma.
mircea_popescu: i know it seemed all great and fabulous back when deskilling brought about abominables a la condolezza rice as "secretary of state" notwithstanding strict incapacity of any sort of thinking
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> iirc hanbot was using it to do something trilema-related, sounded happy with it. << yeah, i'm working on setting it up with a (partial in all senses) trilema post index, see if it makes finding posts in chan easier since google is ~useless for it. trinque's ircbot as posted has been a joy.
asciilifeform: 'If you invest any time and effort into HackerOne Bug Bounties, HackerOne does not honor their minimum bug bounty guarantee, and will not go to bat for you if you have a dispute with one of their well-placed vendors such as Uber.' << noshit.jpg
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox post your puzzle-hash as comment in ch4 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: tip is 879 as of ~12 mins ago
ben_vulpes: i have another kiestered that i may as well unload at the same time, hash untrunculation
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one thing i do with logbot is to use postgres as a queue so that a background worker can do all of the thinking and crashing without thrashing the irc connection
ben_vulpes: anyways i must have an extra-thick layer of prb, as my node has found precisely one block in the past three hours
asciilifeform: anyway , worx, now all i need is to think of how to properly cut the output so as not to straddle message breaks...
mircea_popescu: an evident issue would be of course that if ownership is implemented as-to-specified-coin as seen in bitcoin, then E has a ready avenue -- "all txn including spends from my own addresses are mine". this is a somewhat weakening of the premise, but perhaps sufficient.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu has thought of a meaning for it that doesn't 'a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others' -- i'm all ears
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
mircea_popescu: scheme as described ftr works eminently well with http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ in that "proof of knowing the txset" becomes meaningful past what's going on now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to elaborate re 'as large as will be'
mircea_popescu: and no more of this "monotonously growing" nonsense. whole item as large as will ever be is given at onset.
asciilifeform: as in , stand up new node in 1wk, instead of 3-4 months.
asciilifeform: ... as mircea_popescu prolly intuited , it remains possible that 'aggression' takes the trb<->prb link breakage from , say, the 80% of before, to 100% , and i would not learn about it until reaching tip.
mircea_popescu: legendarily, ceausescu visited best korea at some point, came back inspired with "Great Juche-like Ideas" [evidently claimed as independent, because all peasants are mormon smith] ;
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 19:27 mircea_popescu: that is after all the point, neh, to somehow get as large a headcount as possible through the various gates (born, college, credit cards, mortgage, retirement hgome etc) WITHOUT "harming the environment" which in any practical sesne means... without changing anything.
asciilifeform: from pov of committee chair-warmer, 'something happening' is as desirable as an out-of-ordinary day at nuke power station
mircea_popescu: which isn't nearly as fortunate a happy occurence as the fantasy-mind imagines from within ; but anyway
mircea_popescu: well, in typical manner of usgtronic cargocultism, they pretend to themselves as a captive audience that they've embraced&extended successfully.
mircea_popescu: "the linux way" works for as long as.
asciilifeform: the as-is incurably kills it, because unpaired quote.
asciilifeform: ( naturally , this is not a Troo Rigorous test. that'd go as i described, 2 identical, save for 'aggression', boxen, on 2 identical pipes )
mircea_popescu: as long as it ships with keccak i don't care what other nonsense i will never read is included by possibility.
asciilifeform: if vtron dun know about it, it's as good as gone
mircea_popescu: people who want their work of today to stand ~forever are more than welcome to quit "programming", pick up assassination as a vocation, go murder everyone with a wikipedia article / mentioned on hacker news.
mircea_popescu: take mpi as a fine example in this vein.
mircea_popescu: ~nothing we have is worth preserving as it is.
mircea_popescu: but as we're restandardizing on keccak errything will have to be reground anyway
ben_vulpes: myeah, as i said "in light of", mostly unearthing for target practice.
ben_vulpes: i think i just tripped over the multiple-leaves thing as well, had asciilifeform's wires in my patchset
ben_vulpes: will probably use asciilifeform's aggressive patch, as my logs are full of 70000-series nodes advertising sexily high tips
mircea_popescu: for as long as you have other trbs up to speed to support you. but still, useful mod.
asciilifeform: more exactly, for so long as it is verifying a block, it is dead-in-the-water
mircea_popescu: "i can not send this node any txn for as long as it still asks me for blocks"
asciilifeform: it did take a while to reach this state, given as 'wires' are no longer in use. had to actually connect to a working and nonblackholed trb.
asciilifeform: fwiw 'aggression' is live on (still syncing...) zoolag, as of today.
asciilifeform: theoretically (!) this should make 'wires' (see last feb. log) actually work-as-intended. ( asciilifeform not yet tried. )
BingoBoingo: And in other joyous sights of the season, saw my first child beggar today pestering me for "un moneda", the fellow in the orange vest whose job I've not figured out yet had a roaring laugh as "No entiendo." "No se, que es un moneda" and then I walked off.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "No. 04-0631 Wagnon v. Prarie Band Potawatomi Nation. This case concerns a tribe of native Americans in Kansas who have a casino on their reservation. If I understand the facts correctly, there is one road that goes to the casino, and one gas station (the "Nation Station") on that road. As you might guess the gas station primarily sells gas to casino goers. The tribe imposes a tax on the gas that pays for the r
asciilifeform: or disgorge, via any means short of full bore crack, anything previously written therein , as a file ☟︎
asciilifeform: phunphakt: to this very day, crappleware won't -- as result of deliberate design -- emulate a disk
asciilifeform: shinohai: as it happens i just uncrated one today
mircea_popescu: in other "furious activity as cover for impotence", the string "&nslookup djY7ekWd&'\\\"`0&nslookup djY7ekWd&`'" is going to do something! maybe as a referrer ? maybe if you stuff it into a comment ? IT IS A MAGICALLY POWERFUL STRING!
mircea_popescu: anyway, speaking of not-as-dumb-as-average jews, hermann fambly, owners of radio works in berlin, sold 1935 and split. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there can not exist such a thing as a perfectly homogenuous bar of steel for the exact reason there can not exist a perfectly detailed etch on its surface.
asciilifeform: b/w object that is imperfect because of limitations of the materials, and one that is broken because of limitations of the designer, who was dropped as a child
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as nude birth nor there yet was in the history of the world. everyone's born with some shit between his eyes.
mircea_popescu: so in practical nonsense as grandfathered in, we posited already an equivalency so that if 1. something signed by 2FB7B452 and 2. somethinf decrypted by 16B8E32E then therefore 1 = 2 in terms of cryptoproof strength.\
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757314 << the principal fucking problem with the rank nonsense we're using is that idiocy of "subkey". consider mine : if you encrypt to 2FB7B452 which ~is~ my key, gpg will nevertheless encrypt to 16B8E32E. because gpg will use the master as sign-only and create a "decryption" key "automatically". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: as per thomas, i'll repent later when it costs me nothing anyway.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall what the procedure is, does it let you !!register the new one ? (as in, spits out a v string ?)
asciilifeform: ( sometimes yes, end up in sv, but as active perpetrators of scamola, rather than foot-soldiers )
asciilifeform: ~same odds as in pro sport
mircea_popescu: good thing nobody told the subretard kids, they still chase it as a life choice.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757073 << in living memory it's been a rarity. approx as many tenures issued , per yr, as senatorships ☝︎
shinohai: Sure, sign back in as Sofia and we'll get you squared away.