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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i know for a fact that there exist pdp8 in actual cement, last i knew still processing inputs . so it aint entirely out of the question.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i cannot speak for others, but from my pov cuntoo is a wartime t34 , and defo not something i like to picture myself using 20y from nao << Someone's probably sealing Cuntoo'd devices in cement within 5 years
bvt: i.e. finishing stage0/mes integration, and also there is a problem of bootstrapping gnat
asciilifeform: i cannot speak for others, but from my pov cuntoo is a wartime t34 , and defo not something i like to picture myself using 20y from nao
asciilifeform: i.e. to go through the sweat of building an arch, only to then plant kernighan and poettering on top again.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the 'let's bootstrap c' thing comes from a narrow fixation on thompsonism to the exclusion of the other 9000 leprosies of the pdp age.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 18:55 mircea_popescu: IMO it makes no sense adopting the VM, given that apparently mips.v7 will be the republican CPU architecture on ice40. << i very much not agree ; much too soon to standardize this.
bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-17#1903106 << i also agree that it is; i don't find myself knowledgable enough to make a decision on the republican cpu architecture, but for bootstrapping using ice40 with its limited resources a simple mips core sounded fitting. ☝︎
asciilifeform: picture if i had made ffa deal in 32bit words, and then proclaimed 'implement bignum on that'. do you imagine the result would be in any sense 'fits in head' ?
asciilifeform: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/03/mes-part-1-stage0/#selection-29.94-29.340 << imho ~100% of the attempts on record , made exactly same mistake -- they assumed that 'architecture-specific aspects creep into the design of the boostrapping process' only concerns ~what is there~ in the arch, and not ~what is not there~ (e.g. sane memory management, type tags) . if you dun put the complexity of certain necessary sanities where it belongs -- i ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 15:28 mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/febOU#selection-149.0-155.207 is precisely the example i was looking for in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-06#1900631
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm curious wtf aes is doing in the kernel.
asciilifeform: shinohai: i am pleased that you like it, but must note that if you had read ch13-16 , would have already seen most of it before..
mircea_popescu: if you get it ready to testing, you can either talk with BingoBoingo to install it somewhere or install it yourself, i'll testrun and definitely let you know if anything broke my flow.
mircea_popescu: billymg not really useful for anything else afaik, and i wouldn't mind it going.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 12:54 spyked: more generally: although I've been tempted to switch to mp-wp, I'm still hoping to grow the current thetarpit code base into a minimal cl-based mp-wp-like blogotron. I'ma also put a genesis on the todo list.
hanbot: anyway fwiw i dun use and see no use for the wysiwyg editor thingamajig otherwise.
billymg: to describe my overall thinking/strategy with mp-wp, i would like to 1) rip out everything not absolutely necessary for the basic functions of blogging/moderating 2) after arriving at the bare minimum, fit what's left in my head to then evaluate ways to simplify/improve/rewrite
hanbot: mircea_popescu as far as i can tell image insertion dosen't actually rely on tinymce, though there may well be a snaggletooth of it in the php scripts therein somewhere. unhelpfully enough, "i don't think so, but i wouldn't wanna swear".
billymg: i can investigate. assuming image uploading/linking can be handled without tinymce, but still within wp-admin, would tinymce still be needed?
mircea_popescu: however -- i do use the image inserter. and afaik that is tinymce powered. hanbot ?
mircea_popescu: billymg i also edit in the raw html.
billymg: for example, the "wysiwyg" editor, tinymce, that is packaged with wordpress. do any of the current mp-wp users use this? i personally edit in the raw-html input for posts
billymg: i think there's another order of magnitude lines of LOC that can be removed similarly, but i thought i'd check and see what features should _not_ be removed
billymg: i was finally able to get back to some mp-wp work this weekend, with the focus of ripping out unnecessary LOC. after some time getting oriented again it took a few hours to remove ~5k lines just from some "google gears" thing and various "importers" for importing posts from other platforms
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely too soon. i'm not convinced that we want the flaglessness, for instance (mips buys with it , the pipeline, but do we even want pipeline)
mircea_popescu: IMO it makes no sense adopting the VM, given that apparently mips.v7 will be the republican CPU architecture on ice40. << i very much not agree ; much too soon to standardize this. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/03/mes-part-1-stage0/#selection-205.0-205.108 << i agree with this, and must confess i'm quite impressed.
asciilifeform: well fourlegged critters will happily fuck anyffing, i expect it's an extention of that, rear brain worx , front brain unplugged
mircea_popescu: i dunno it's ever done in anger ; afaik it's a process of wholy vegetable male, where cock gets hard but eyes stay vacant. the female will mount it eventually, because the female will mount what she has available.
asciilifeform: but cannot resist to ask mircea_popescu -- i thought sisterfucking required some seriously nonstandard brain miswire . neh ?
Mocky: i expect equal part laziness. I'd also expect the sisters and not the mothers
mircea_popescu: i expect they'll succeed after the potheads and before the pedos, ~same chances as the dog-and-pony fuckers.
mircea_popescu: Mocky the only problem i see is that if this were true, it'd be the sisters, not the mothers. and there's actually an "unknown" (because pantsuit media ignores, so that matters, hurr) interest group pushing for raising the legal ban on this. they even have a whole rational argument, "since anticonceptionals..."
mircea_popescu: for lulz : i suppose everyone is aware that the word cretin is the byproduct of euphemism threadmill, dood was trying to introduce the word "christian" ("cretien") to discuss the deeply retarded inhabitants of small isolated villages up in the alps.
mircea_popescu: sounds more like laziness driven, but i guess this is also a perfectly workable scheme (and, anthropologically, the actual driver of actual incest in the sort of isolated communities where it happens, ozarks, switzerland & co.)
mircea_popescu: the one i had in mind specifically discusses the matter from the perspective of pantsuit attacking traditional system, by expanding the franchise thus lowering the average quality of the participant thus undermining the defensible functioning of traditional institutions.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this says the thing, but isn't the one i had in mind ;/
Mocky: i'm generalizing from people i have met, and how they would shit themselves before walking up to a girl.
mircea_popescu: the devil himself knows not the mind of man, yet mocky can tell by some pixels ? WHAT PIXELS!!! is all i'm trying to get out of you, show me 'em.
Mocky: no, i agree it won't be worth putting it down. but it's not like they are fed up with chix and are now like, 'might as well porn.' they never had the chix and fantasize of the real thing
mircea_popescu: and don't fucking tell me that "but oh mp, among the vast fields of females under 25, there's a few parts per million for everyone!! you find yours, they find theirs" bs. i take ~anything that moves.
mircea_popescu: this is like asking me "how can there be a difference between chewing risotto and chewing concrete -- i never could bring myself to try chewing concrete"
mircea_popescu: 1. admitting there is such a thing as a "boy unable to talk to girls", 2. you are stuck admitting that this same boy can nevertheless look at any piece of ass he wants, as proven by the social media event known as "the fappening", 3. in which case you are left to somehow introduce a putative difference of satisfaction, between doing just that and talking to girls -- 4. because i tell you i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: Mocky let me write that sentence down again, i suspect it suffers in notation.
mircea_popescu: i don't know that it supports it ; i believe it entirely sinks any possibility of the alternative you present holding though.
mircea_popescu: those boys who "can't talk to girls" could talk to girls just fine -- but they don't perceive it pays. correctly, because it doesn't. (much like the ~same boys come here refuse to talk to the outside, because they naively extend what worked for them irl -- except here, it doesn't, there's not gonna be a pizarro withou talking to the scary outside, nor is there gonna be a "trilema irc" other than by people federating servers i
mircea_popescu: Mocky i do not credit that theory.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 15:25 mircea_popescu: i thought "incest porn" consisted mostly of daddy worship, "if he just stayed with us, i'd even suck his cock".
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-17#1902994 << I thought incest porn consisted mostly of boys unable to talk to girls fantasizing about fucking anything already stuck in the same house ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha i had even forgotten this lulzpile
mircea_popescu: i can't conceptualize pure oedipian complex of raw-raw-ima-fuck-ma without the other trappings. soft, female-emulating kids are NOT oedipian, because can not be.
mircea_popescu: or the psychological tension produced in their head by "please daddy, stay, i'll even suck your cock!!!" vs "what, are you a faggot ?!" gets them to scapegoat the evil dumb bitch whose whole fault he left it is in the first place.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that this is methodologically sound. so you've counted... online instances of statement of something on the basis of a serarch ?
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/febOU#selection-149.0-155.207 is precisely the example i was looking for in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-06#1900631 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i thought "incest porn" consisted mostly of daddy worship, "if he just stayed with us, i'd even suck his cock". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema is back to where comment section > article. only took a few years (though, tbh, i did kinda miss it).
mod6: Oh, yeah, looks like I'm way behind on that article's comments. I'll read up, stop wasting time.
mod6: Update here: Got the irc server built with the proper nick/topic lengths, also ratbox-services configured with the same. Finally got the ratbox-services to connect successfully to the server, but I'm still doing minor config changes there.
BingoBoingo: I remember being 3 or 4 in the grocery store produce section and being struck with the awareness that my awareness is stuck in my head alone. That I couldn't bounce my awareness from head to head. There were some very Bush I era fat people and I very much wanted to will them stop eating for a few months.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm curious whether you're aware of Julian Jaynes. I'm not in a position to assign credit for who first said self-aware consciousness might not come naturally to humans, absent learning it from a parent at a critical age.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902942 -> still digesting it, thank you; I started answering here and realised it should probably better go in the comments section so it'll go there. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-08-31 06:24 asciilifeform: i always use the term 'calmed down' for these people. starting from having played 'half life', where there is a scene of an einsteinesque white coated figure who gets an alien 'headcrab' jump on his head. it takes roots, he struggles for a while, then 'calms down' and ambles on as zombie.
mircea_popescu: in other obscura : meanwhile i located the clou of the issue. in april 1960, at cluj, gh gh dej stated the party recognizes the right of writers to express themselves "în limbajul epocii noastre" ("in the language of our times"). WHOLE fucking dispute is EXACTLY over whether the ro pantsuits get to the-dreamers or don't get to the-dreamers ; and protestations of unawareness and "vhs america" are suddewnly extrehehehehemely w
BingoBoingo: Policeman White see fellow on Nazi watchlist "I've killed those fuckers in xBawks game", Policeman Brown sees fellow on Obama is an animal watchlist "I ought to buy the man a beer and compare notes"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that's more acceptabru.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 13:20 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902744 -> I never understood why can't the new ones be *trained* ; esp since it's not like they are sososo busy that they can't use the time and learn something at work.
BingoBoingo: In the limited time I do remember it exists, I simply try to drive up crime and weapon ownership per capita
mircea_popescu: i guess usg got copy-right or some shit ?
mircea_popescu: imagine these fucktards! i can't call my imaginary nation's imaginary animal the same as that other imaginary nation's equally imaginary animal!
mircea_popescu: i think it's fine as it is.
asciilifeform: at one time i was considering to make it adjustable on cmdline, but already have 4 params the user must give ( fz bitness, datastack height, max 'life' , and tapespace len ) and that's already much, calculating exact footprint for given invocation already requires thought
asciilifeform: orig. i had it set to 8, but decided that's unjustifiably spartan
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think 256 is perfectly defensible. should be obvious what knob to twiddle for less or more anyway, admitting either one's trying to make ffa fit into tiny embed or use it for who knows what unforeseen purpose on large machines. ☟︎
asciilifeform: would like to discuss before i sign the ch
asciilifeform: i'd like to request 5min of mircea_popescu wearing papal regalia . ch17 ffa , as perhaps was clear from http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902386 , has a control-transfer stack ( for loops & subroutines . ) it, like errything else, is nonheapistic, therefore has a fixed size. currently set to 256. this constant gotta be nailed down. is 256 enuff? too small? too big ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am actually clicking through choices here lol.
asciilifeform: 2000s. i had nfi still existed.
asciilifeform: lol i remember that site, was popular before 'www game' state of art converged to lolcat
mircea_popescu: the west states << obv i mean east states, penn, ny, mass & co
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'm quite sure it's clearly visible in today's western socialism too.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-14 09:56 spyked: diana_coman, I suspect this was mostly a case of "revision is well-received, but don't change anything"; which is why iliescu/fsn had so much support and average derp saw the taranisti as "way too mean" (no idea precisely what "mean" means, that's what I've been told)
diana_coman: linking it back up, the breakup of the cosy place for the clever idler was I suspect precisely what they meant by "mean" in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902449 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the important part, to my eyes, is to underscore that the "being clever" was NOT, as the "clever" in question silently ie implicitly misrepresent, a case of "choice", ie, "seeing how little i get paid i react thusly". the "clever" in question was very much what such "clever" ever is : "seeing what a fucktard i am, this is what i could pretend is '''really''' going on to not have to confront it".
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, note that I worded it precisely in *that* order, starting with "noi ne" . I don't know what/who you are arguing there, lol.
mircea_popescu: this "i could do work ~if i wanted to~" is the unconvincing bullshit spewing quite naturally out of any inept narcissist since before the invention of the word.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i do not believe so.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 02:31 mircea_popescu: i have doubts it'll survive the passing of the current generation, the girlies in the shop are utterly confused at proceedings that seem only natural to her and me, but what can you do.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902744 -> I never understood why can't the new ones be *trained* ; esp since it's not like they are sososo busy that they can't use the time and learn something at work. ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902694 -> I always thought jeans were cowboy stuff, not miner; and at least initially part of the "waiting for the americans" i.e. a tribute to an imagined greatness; how it morphed afterwards into an uniform I have no idea. ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902641 -> "noi ne facem ca muncim, ei se fac ca ne platesc" (we pretend we work, they pretend they pay us); so I'd say it was more the case that there were a few actually working and all the rest being clever; just like now in a different socialism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in today's installment of "how to fuck over internet scholars" : take the chunk popper attributes to kant ("I do not wish to hide the fact that I can only look with repugnance . . upon the puffed-up pretentiousness of all these volumes filled with wisdom, such as are fashionable nowadays. For I am fully satisfied that . . the accepted methods must endlessly increase these follies and blunders, and that even the com
BingoBoingo: Here it's torta frita. I'd go for some pork rinds. Like in old country
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> somehow, have working taste buds, or seem to << The Peruana is much better at composing flavors into food than I am, but... her sense of smell just might be weaker than mine
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 02:14 asciilifeform: asciilifeform had entirely same 'eyes melt' experience when went to ameri-foodstore for 1st coupla times. today i spend good money at shop that loox exactly like what well-stocked one in sovok did in 1985. and not in 'dazzling variety' where cornsyrupinerrything.
asciilifeform: mebbe centralamericas. but when in BingoBoingostan i went into a gigantic open-air http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902697 equiv. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I don't think you've seen the crap Latinos eat when left to own devices
mircea_popescu: (and speaking of "luxury", romania's ex-minister woman that the hubbub was about recently, "Rumanas vivían entre lujos" lived in a pretty shitty apt in rohrmoser, which is a sort of... auburndale, i guess ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he took iirc the 2 mo., as incidentally described by the 'ru argentina' d00d i linked to last mo. he wrote that ~100% of ru expats go from 'i want to be buried in recoleta' to 'burn it all' in ~2mo.
mircea_popescu: i don't dispute there's the occasional tico with some dough. but i'm pretty sure they're saving it up and hitting the disneyworlkd mcdonalds.