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mircea_popescu: i dunno what the difference they imagine is
asciilifeform: lolaha, 'only Dumb Orcs pull ~straight~ from thin air!11'
mircea_popescu: nah, the amusing thing about the empire of thin air is that ~everything is "justified". it's never "here's some hot air", it's always "here's two steps of correct deductions based on the 3rd on thin air"
asciilifeform: there's also the simpler alternative, which i originally assumed they use -- simply pulling 'employability' stats out of thin air
mircea_popescu: doh. how else would you have them do it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 15:26 mircea_popescu: the only fucking reason, point and selling characteristic of anglo college is "making money", and there's no quantum below 1 million dollars.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the seekrit, as i understand, is that they were running a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742441 scheme, but in fact were recruiting folx who already ~had~ 'goodjerbs' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 14:56 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745783 << my read is that he was genuine lee kuan yew, except not nearly as intelligent (nor fortunate) ; eventually collapsed under the pressure of the pointless maggot herd wanting what it wants rather than what it needs aka "democracy". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would standford give a dumb neet as much as a length of string "because they need it" ? let them need from their fucking mother / community college.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 14:41 asciilifeform: 'only terrorist conspiracytheorists, toxicfacts' etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745775 << honestly, i don't see what the secret even is. "stanford dares to elitism" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but the good news is you can config your blogotron to just suck out pastes and put them in blockquotes itself. tho i've not had mp-wp do this
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745772 << well, yes, as indirection layer above blog comment. nfi why one'd do that instread of just putting the material in a blockquote. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not all intelligent people find the republic. some that don't... "troll" the imbecile public, ie, sopirla.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure it's not deliberate, by this point.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back ) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 10:10 mircea_popescu: "investigative" in the sense of "here's half the picture, let's hope together that a) you're not smart enough to understand the elements it's constructed out of are meaningless and b) the areas it doesn't cover are meaningful". basically, the EXACT nonsense as in "wash dc pizzeria scandal"/"#metoo" : free association game.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745762 << the pizzeria people didn't do anything that, e.g., bush's 'wmd' people didn't do. only diff is that one did it while inca emperor, and demolished a good chunk of whole continent, while other -- did it while penniless hobos, and perforated a roof in an old house. ☝︎
asciilifeform: on right hand -- 'simon', american children's toy where coloured lights blink and kid tries to repeat the sequence
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 10:09 mircea_popescu: ah, speaking of http://trilema.com/2017/why-is-fighting-corruption-the-pantsuit-callsign/ & http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1745184 : https://www.riseproject.ro/articol/banul-paralel/ (the principal, though by now kinda defunded, usg.dos tool in .ro).
asciilifeform: 'only terrorist conspiracytheorists, toxicfacts' etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745758 << will run into solid wall of unhappening, just like the climate crapola, podesta, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745755 << it was a formatting issue, and he repasted with p.bvulpes -- but the unfortunate bit is that they, too, will vanish, and the comment becomes useless in <1week unless i manually archive'em ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745756 << this is the right idea, but for some inexplicable reason is castrated -- why only half-length 1U, and holds 2 boards, not 4 ?! ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/lets-revisit-the-google-is-irrelevant-discussion/ << Trilema - Let's revisit the Google-is-irrelevant discussion.
mircea_popescu: now i want to link to the thing in this article and... where do i link
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 18:19 phf: manual meaning that i see a vpatch in any random place, i post it (obviously it benefits me, more content etc.)
mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739096 : it's my recollection that when i released mp-wp, the deal was somebody picks it up and genesises it. i dun recall right off who, was it you shinohai ? or ben_vulpes ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "investigative" in the sense of "here's half the picture, let's hope together that a) you're not smart enough to understand the elements it's constructed out of are meaningless and b) the areas it doesn't cover are meaningful". basically, the EXACT nonsense as in "wash dc pizzeria scandal"/"#metoo" : free association game. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 22:42 mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, usg.state's main asset in romania looks well headed to jail. kovesi (special "anti-corruption prosecutor") lied about meeting various politicians (as part of usg embassy-directed http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743878 scandal).
mircea_popescu: ah, speaking of http://trilema.com/2017/why-is-fighting-corruption-the-pantsuit-callsign/ & http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1745184 : https://www.riseproject.ro/articol/banul-paralel/ (the principal, though by now kinda defunded, usg.dos tool in .ro). ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cool, barring any problems the transit time will be ~24 hours
mod6: yeah, thx for msg'ing back; indeed, his pastes are gone!?
BingoBoingo: Anyone want to put a bet against one bitcent for "Bitcoin passes 12500 (per '!~ticker --market all' VWLA) while I am enroute from StL to Montevideo
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#footnote_1_54763 << Ah, this is such a reminder of the datacenter search. Particularly in Peru and SE Asia
BingoBoingo: Also, Trump insufficiency syndrome
BingoBoingo: Well, appears when the booze is preventing new memory formation you get a lot of "WTF? Why no butt patting the entertainment at work anymore"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, imdb on lollobrigida : "She was the daughter of a furniture manufacturer, and grew up in the pictorial mountain village."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> other team's cheerleader bus, au naturel. exactly what teh airmen meant by "tailhookers all weather attack" fliers dumped on area colleges. << An appeal of hanging out with the old drunks in recovery is that their time drinking often seems a sort of cultural cosmoline.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it was her. perfect chick for the role, basically subsistence prostitute in ww2 italy. then ended up in cinecitta.
mircea_popescu: bette davis is this old woman playing cards with ghetto italians (sordi and i think mangano ?)
BingoBoingo: Not yet that I remember
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> very easy to write trilema when you've been writing trilema ; fucking hard to be a fisherman when you've been a fisherman. hence http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/ << Mega film, need to rewatch
mircea_popescu: actually, re-reading the comments i know why i wrote it. because i didn't like the implication that "so what if liberalizing drugs leads to truck drivers being forced to meth by economic pressure, fuck them, they're truck drivers". the idea being that you never know who the truck driver is.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, why did i write the original ? i had nfi when i did what the future'd be like. SURELY it was no possible perception of value. but this is merely an indication of just how fucking valuable the whole thing is, if it builds meaning upon itself in a manner that defies imagination.
mircea_popescu: e split-second right before fight, there's not enough brain in any skull that ever passed the woman's middle to manage such ample feats. some try, but why should i take amphetamine today to compensate for having been lazy a decade ago ?
mircea_popescu: and that is what it fucking means, that opportunity loss is unevaluable. had i not written http://trilema.com/2010/daca-tot-ce-poti-face-in-viata-asta/ in 2010, i couldn't have well written http://trilema.com/2016/and-now-the-story-has-an-ending/ in 2016 ; and without that in turn the quoted piece. you can't summon these up on the spot when you need them, literally cant, just like wolf can't physically sharpen his teeth in th
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 16:51 mircea_popescu: (this point, in either "intern can progress" or "sit in forum and access meaning" presentation, is the fundamental mechanism of both "rounders" and that "poolhall junkies" cheapo rehack of it : that the dude playing can decide the girl's future, a degree of magnitude above her own capacity. take that away -- it's not worth doing. and you sure as fuck ain't meeting the head of ny law firm socially, and play $X with him so he g
mircea_popescu: the discussion re poker, EXACTLY same thing. once the buildup went away... no further point to playing.
mircea_popescu: very easy to write trilema when you've been writing trilema ; fucking hard to be a fisherman when you've been a fisherman. hence http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/
mircea_popescu: every gram of sweat off my brow, every keystroke magnified thousandfold by the passive value of accumulated history.
mircea_popescu: because i wrote all those trilema articles, when i sit down to write an article today, i copme up with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-01#1744980 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the problkem is this : your fishing today is in no way improved by your fishing yesterday.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sea is rich ; but the fisherman's stuck playing a loser game. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yet the function remained, half the kids born in berlin 1946 were russian.
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with "modern war", that its charming quality of yore became quite grotesque.
mircea_popescu: other team's cheerleader bus, au naturel. exactly what teh airmen meant by "tailhookers all weather attack" fliers dumped on area colleges.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it never went. see... take say the early greek wars. those dudes did essentially a society game : the men stripped and cockwrestled on a field on a sunday. the "defeat" of the defeated was a two phase game. phase 1, where their line broke. phase 2, most important, where THEIR WOMEN spread out for THE OTHER GUYS. because fuck you loser. exactly how college football worked when it worked, you mean means you get the
diana_coman: re not really extracts - I guess it's fair to say it's not "extracts" but rather "charms out of" and that certainly makes some sense; although it's totally unclear how it went from conquering actively to charming passively
diana_coman: and moreover, that was said in 1898, not as if it's new or anything
diana_coman: there was no counter-argument there; those were scum; the point was simply that this sort of scum is alive for longer than it would be if not for the warm/comfy "crowd"
mircea_popescu: (really, nobody ever wonders how come the fishermen are always the poorest demographic ? the sea is so very rich!)
mircea_popescu: bitter poverty is the only certain result.
mircea_popescu: the lido gets sanded. this is not up to venice to prevent. end of story. trying to live off civilization is exactly like trying to live off fishing, or off playing double-or-nothing at the casino.
mircea_popescu: which is why the british empire COULDNT prevent its own demise. nor the current one. nor any other "highly organized civilised crowd".
mircea_popescu: it's 100% "making the sun raise" by gesturing wildly at 5:15 am
mircea_popescu: diana_coman point isn't that it extracts, point is that it doesn't, not really. that's what i'm saying, that the whole "whose existence is only rendered possible through the high organization of civilized crowds" is really VERY vulnerable, because the high organization doesn't ACTUALLY cause or control the extraction.
asciilifeform: i'll admit that i'm not quite sure what the opposing argument, that mircea_popescu is bulldozing, exactly was
diana_coman: well, the *what* it extracts is of course much more telling of what the thing is to start with; as for the reasons there... reason was as far as I understand it "they are better than us because they defeated us", can't say it's obviously "smoke and mirror"
mircea_popescu: but... they weren't.
mircea_popescu: were the ww2 generals fighting ww1, they'd have ALL been great military minds
mircea_popescu: yes, were you living in the time of your parents, the strategy you came up with would have worked. you're not.
mircea_popescu: so this "civilized crowds" thing is ~suicide.
mircea_popescu: the one you're looking at, whatever it may be, won't turn out to be the exception, either.
mircea_popescu: by the time the plebs figure out "where the party is", the party just moved.
asciilifeform: at one time was some sort of optimum between 'inflates slowly' and 'gettable', neh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing about the usd makes it best. no, it's dollars for the same reason "eat at mcdonalds" -- worst horse in glue factory.
mircea_popescu: in the specific sense that by the time "you figure it out" they're gone. today, everyone wants to go to college. today it's too late to go to college. everyone wants a 401k ? guess what... too late to. and so on.
asciilifeform: i thought it was dollars because 'best horse in glue factory'
mircea_popescu: there's no fundamental reason for nicaraguan working abroad to save in dollars ; there was no fundamental reason for indian to think his kid must go to school in london. smoke and mirrors, and those are terrible basis for one's life
mircea_popescu: everything else... just trying to. lasts while it lasts.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that the republic is the only economically stable thing -- the extraction of the smart.
mircea_popescu: (anyone remember the derpage early 2000s in the same venues that these days discuss "toxic facts" and "russian hackers" ?)
diana_coman: hm, by same token life only ever survives (briefly) as an extraction engine, what of it
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-103.0-103.28 THEREFORE "us empire" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE india credited london, THEREFORE the ~pretense~, idle and basless, of british empire.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman except here's the biter : the "civilized crowds" only ever survives (briefly) as an extraction engine.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:20 mircea_popescu: all of it, however wrapped, however excused, it's the same thing : we here in white man world are incapable of doing anything useful and don't wish to see why this'd make any difference.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745663 <- how was that, "perfectly insignificant and incapable individuals, whose existence is only rendered possible through the high organization of civilized crowds..." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so... you wanna work self-managedly, and are rich enough to afford it, great! not rich enough to afford it... stfu. pick one and only one.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform will submit ffa.rsa to be judged in mircea_popescu's symm cipher contest, supposing the latter is still running ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, obviously in the particular case of "make crypto bit for eulora" the problem evidently is that such an item is more complex than what worker usually workers. this is true, but also it was your idea, blocking also that out.
mircea_popescu: but you can't argue both ends. it can't be "oh, there's no jobs" and ALSO "i'm not doing the jobs". unemployment office kicks you out, and so does everyone else, for good reason.
asciilifeform points out, ftr, that he is only able to sometimes make-in-own-time by whoring out in saeculum.
mircea_popescu: either way, low output means low value and dubious humanity. that's capitalism.
mircea_popescu: if you're too poor to ownership share, need to be paid in cash, that means no options and no decisions and off to work whore.
mircea_popescu: if you're rich enough to make your own decisions, good, make shit on your own time and in your own way, that's ACTUALLY VALUABLE, get paid via ownership share.
asciilifeform: can't think of why.
mircea_popescu: so why should that sort of people eat ?