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a111: Logged on 2018-02-07 04:07 ben_vulpes: TomServo: i personally run machines for longevity, but i can see why mircea_popescu and BingoBoingo would want to run their lowendboxen hot and cram
as much into 'em
as possible.
trinque: lol aha. I've never seen such a polite huge truck driver
as mine.
ben_vulpes: TomServo: i personally run machines for longevity, but i can see why mircea_popescu and BingoBoingo would want to run their lowendboxen hot and cram
as much into 'em
as possible.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: if we don't neglect it, i'd expect entrained flow in the same direction
as the convective cooling flux, eg from front of rack to back
ben_vulpes: that argon between them doesn't move; the viscosity of the gas keeps it locked in place and it acts
as a superior insulator to the glass.
ben_vulpes: heaven help us if the machine bodies actually drive a) because someone isn't cooling adequately, and if the gap is sufficiently small (
as anyone with dc experience can attest) we'll probably have "stagnation" conditions, where the air is not actually circulating between the machines
ben_vulpes: moreover it'd be what, mostly radiant with a bit of conductive through the air gap between servers, which can probably be approximated
as stagnant and a good insulator
ben_vulpes: cooked, yes, but you hoover from the aisle in the front and dump into the aisle in the back. so long
as everyone's dumping out the back, nobody should be sucking exhaust gases.
trinque: mircea_popescu: in re: cores, depends what you're running. most of my existing servers are many separate services doing tasks that don't block each other, whereas if running trb it's doubtful the thing benefits from even one extra core, except insofar
as the rest of the OS's doings get shuffled off to it.
TomServo: I can likely order gear
as well, but I don't expect that will be a problem.
mircea_popescu: eh, there's cpus that are made for overclocking. such
as this one. it'll run fine for years, if kept cool.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 11:09 mircea_popescu: take something like, i dunno, epyc-7351 say. costs 7x, has 4x the cores, 4.5x the ram speed, 4.5x the l2/3 cache and 50% the power. basically i'm getting less than twice
as much processor per watt, if i pay 7x the money. meh.
mircea_popescu:
as to the vertical exhaust, it was more of a "do you have it" curio than anything.
mircea_popescu: take something like
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782012 : if you did actyually put 4 to the mobo,
as they theoretically can suffer, and somehow stuffed all this in 1U, and attempted to put 40 such units at half a kW each inside one rack, i'd fully expect the whole thing melting down within the hour. not even water can take out 20KJ/s out of a (stationary) rack. we're talking like, car engine sorta coolings by now.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: btw BingoBoingo : do some research, see if you can actually mount the proposed config
as such, see if you find better parts or anything.
BingoBoingo: name] S.A. but it will have a seperate "doing business
as" name which I figure might
as well just be my name according to the principal of maximum pissing on.
mircea_popescu: Extra power is 20 cents/Watt, can be had
as an add-on. Extra bandwidth, idem, though because granularity issues can't really give a fixed price in advance. but something like $20 doubles it, more or less.
mircea_popescu: so then, (7150 - 1403) * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 33.15 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 37.75GB of weekly upload / 377.5GB download (
as per 20 / 8 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and 2500/40 = 62.5 Watts of power (in the sense of 37.8 MJ).
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 05:03 mircea_popescu: so then, 7150 * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 41.25 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 302GB of weekly upload / 3TB download (
as per 20 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and lessee re wattage,
mircea_popescu: aite. so i say publish
as is, but replace the addresses with ***.
juhoitse:
As a finn I have the immunity to hard liqour but I've lost my social skills
as a consequence
juhoitse: Getting a job soon so gonna have some money to invest
as well
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : "why did you bring your cat to school, joey ?" "because
as i was leaving daddy said to mommy he's gonna eat that pussy once joey leaves for school ;/"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782057 << the principal difference being that other than holding down a high responsibility tech job with a significant on-call component, ~the woman~ is also raising a child. with the flu and everything. yet somehow her shit is still dribbling out on thursdays, today
as nine weeks ago.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: and, to be sure, if you do manage to fill it, and if it does make good dough, i'll be just
as happy for you to get a nice villa and import your own german car and diddle all the uruguayan hos you can find. so...
mircea_popescu: hey, if we pull this off i'll be just
as happy
as you.
mircea_popescu: now,
as to everyone else : today's the 6th. the plan is to continue discussing the spec given above, for improvements/refinements/whatever until the 8th ; at which point we start ordering. there's about 15k fiats worth of gear being contemplated, and i'm more than willing to spread it around a few people who want some cheap coins.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo aite on the power and rack cages scores. any tips you want to share with phf ? how's teh suitcase ppls do it ? << They pad things
as appropriate, but they discard the original packaging. Also it is important to grab a customs form, they are on the wall on the right once you exit the duty free store zone, on the opposite side of the space is the baggage claim.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 01:36 mircea_popescu: well the whole thing is one huge napkin doodle shared over the chan
as it stands
diana_coman: I can see the argument
as a generic offering , yes; in all fairness it's not like we have a load of properly-speaking multi-threaded software to run
mircea_popescu: take something like, i dunno, epyc-7351 say. costs 7x, has 4x the cores, 4.5x the ram speed, 4.5x the l2/3 cache and 50% the power. basically i'm getting less than twice
as much processor per watt, if i pay 7x the money. meh.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the "pay twice the cost but it buys you insurance from "what if the rack doesn't fill"
as well
as not having to do the legwork" principle seems reasonably fair to me ; it may alter in the future, but for fucking cause. like the prices work in #eulora.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the committment to transparency and in general predictability
as shown above is there.
mircea_popescu: so then, 7150 * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 41.25 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 302GB of weekly upload / 3TB download (
as per 20 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and lessee re wattage,
☟︎ trinque: so, my finances are going to stay taught
as teenaged pussy in 2018
deedbot: 4A19ED232D579FF2F00153ED16DCDF81A0FE0B92 registered
as juhoitse.
mircea_popescu: nothing besides next fucking time do post whatever's required
as required and naught else.
mircea_popescu: and
as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just
as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
☟︎ hanbot: anyway i humbly suggest breaking out the day by day calendar etc when met with surprises
as above.
BingoBoingo: Only so much of the population is capable of working
as a pinoy+, the competent authorities here are keenly aware that everything they have here is because of tourist expenditures.
mircea_popescu: sell
as little
as you need within 10% of the ath and you'll be fine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 22:37 mircea_popescu: aite, well, you'll have to survive on the fiat you have, i dun see selling at these joek prices
as sane.
mircea_popescu: aite, well, you'll have to survive on the fiat you have, i dun see selling at these joek prices
as sane.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in today's "engineering's not my calling" : i have some nice thick candles, which no longer burn because the thread-thin wicks they came with aren't strong enough to melt the whole thickness and
as a result they get drowned in melted wax.
mircea_popescu: so i have little trouble believing,
as clemens describes, "mark spot for depoit, buy the land from farmer, sell later at profit"
mircea_popescu: of course, not in any meaningful sense -- england itself is still a shithole today, with that
as it'd have been without that (holland, or portugal work
as baseline)
mircea_popescu: had the french had the sense to ironclad in 1799 and to private railroad in 1820, likely us rail system would have started from st louis and new orleans rather than new york and philadelphia, and
as a result the 1860 dispute would have been a case of "tiny english east being shaken off humongous french colonial empire".
a111: Logged on 2017-10-10 01:45 mircea_popescu: used anything there was a significant chance to break a wheel in the road,
as all the trails were built by 1435 mm wheels. but why were they ? because when the romans originally landed, they used 1435 mm wide wheelbases, which they had originally specified because it is what two average horses asses cover.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 22:54 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is,
as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors,
as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".
mircea_popescu: not mechanical, no. just the principle of the thing -- jwz's indications of "required" are worth exactly
as much
as jwz itself.
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised how often the "requirements" can simply be trampled with nary a shit given
as to whose hopes and aspirations this rapes and how badly.
mircea_popescu: one harem amusement is, girls propose batshit insane anti-engineering devices. such
as, for example, a car made out of poured concrete. then they proceed to defend it
as best they can.
mircea_popescu: anywa.
as to how it is possible... equality, alf. they stuff it in everywhere.
mircea_popescu has this sad, and ever saddening, tendency to check "references
as available to young lass" whenever item of young lass interest pops in.
mircea_popescu: no. there was about
as much biciclism there
as in colombia/uruguay/whatever, but these looked like mobility solutions rather than "hope in a better future".
mircea_popescu: in my view, orc biciclist is virtue-signalling, exactly like entirely worthless zek that goes about yakking "civil rights"
as if the clitler version of this were a thing.
BingoBoingo: Eh, there isn't enought to qntra outta the headline I wanted. Apparently the pantsuits are pushing bici to vehicle transponders
as a way of ensuring bicicletist safety in a self driving car world. What isn't stated by the pantsuits is a lol, but not enough of one.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everyone here talks about their bici's which few people actually ride. Thusly there's a cognitive bump in my head
as I compose a piece on the latest pantsuit premonition.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 08:49 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781159 << for the record, "ut pondus sic tensio" doesn't mean "the weight is equal to the tension",
as commonly translated by primitive north american orc minds. it says "
as upon the weight, so [upon] the tension", meaning that changes of tension are proportional (and not equal) to changes applied to load.
mircea_popescu: this sort of difference, "subtle" if you're born to do dishes, is both the bread and butter of science
as well
as the fundamental pillar of human language.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781159 << for the record, "ut pondus sic tensio" doesn't mean "the weight is equal to the tension",
as commonly translated by primitive north american orc minds. it says "
as upon the weight, so [upon] the tension", meaning that changes of tension are proportional (and not equal) to changes applied to load.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 16:12 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : i just spent 10 minutes clicking like a madman through the dates of your logs of trilema-trinque trilema-mod6 etc. could it be a feature that if one month contains less than 2k lines of log then it is presented
as a month by month rather than
as a day by day thing ?
ben_vulpes: hey if one can throw a hissy fit and get into a brooklyn pub with it, surely untied will fall into line
as well, right RIGHT?
mircea_popescu: i dunno what he;d do with one ; or when.
as per "i barely even make time to go take a shit"
phf: i've pissed from many rooftops, and it doesn't go
as far
as you might flatter yourself it will
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi what's going on there, but let me point out trilema has a whole class c (ie, /24) allocated
as it is.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : i just spent 10 minutes clicking like a madman through the dates of your logs of trilema-trinque trilema-mod6 etc. could it be a feature that if one month contains less than 2k lines of log then it is presented
as a month by month rather than
as a day by day thing ?
☟︎