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ReadErr: this is a lot to take in, depth wise
ReadErr: just thought it was funny
mircea_popescu: i know what's in the paste lol.
ReadErr: "not to mention the slavegirls at home."
mircea_popescu: towards the end i wanted to link a primer, much in the vein of "here's how to eulora" or gentoo or etcetera : "here's why you are intolerably dumb and how to stop being intolerably dumb ; a guide for pantsuit chickies".
mircea_popescu: but since we're doing retrospective trilemas, here's an item by way of example : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SXexf/?raw=true ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
ReadErr: that would be the only way to drive the equilibrium in the direction you want
mircea_popescu: well, if there's no buyers...
ReadErr: interesting you say sell the bottom 1/3rd
mircea_popescu: i expect things are going to only get better, for us. for everyone else -- http://trilema.com/2016/i-am-firmly-against-universal-franchise/
ReadErr: in the current climate
ReadErr: so do you see things getting better or worse
mircea_popescu: ie, romans were ~trying~ to build the exact system roosevelt built! but lacking in comms and banking, they didn't manage. usg -- did manage, what comes now down the road is...
mircea_popescu: ReadErr the funniest bit, to me, is that this lets-call-it-challenge to empire comes from the exact area fallout predicted, "drugs and slavetrade" (to not say i predicted, mexican cartels finally strong enough to take usg apart). the reason this is funny is because the collapsing roman empire was challenged over -- "the right to counterfit"!
mircea_popescu: (because unearned "income" corrupts, fundamentally. notice the torrents of "let's make sure we're worthy of manna from heavens" supposed "legislation" in the past decades.)
ReadErr: curious to see how it plays out
mircea_popescu: that is why it is the evil empire in the first fucking place.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:32 mircea_popescu: BECAUSE http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-103.0-103.28 THEREFORE "us empire"
mircea_popescu: in this competition, inept foreigners (as in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745682 ) credit a certain item, which happens to be the fed trade account ; usg controls that -- the stated of * does not. that is the whole and complete story -- whatever usg says state, corporation, individual does. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "morals" or "faith". you got a population of caged rats -- if the mysterious feeder person shows up in the morning they eat ; if not, they starve. they've been caged long enough for the the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America" to consist of 1001 ways to navelgraze.
ReadErr: im just thinking like abortion & religion
ReadErr: hmm well in regards to other issues it may not be based on money
mircea_popescu: considering the states attempts to print money work as well as california's at best...
ReadErr: mircea_popescu: i wasnt thinking about it like that, more so how much overreach does the current bighand have over the little hand
asciilifeform: 'However, Intel is making this statement today because of the current inaccurate media reports.' << didjaknow.
mircea_popescu: ReadErr hey, make laws about how niggers don't need to make the grade to qualify, end up with worst president of worlds' history, confirm bias in they biased against all blacks and have to undo all his idiotic "reforms" at considerable cost.
ReadErr: about to be a big state
ReadErr: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948934683408072704 The attorney general will scrap Obama-era rules that mandated hands-off approach to states' marijuana-friendly laws, source says http://cnn.it/2AozLtv
mircea_popescu: ah the predictive cache bs ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it leaked days ago, "keep open drm bank via one address at max cycle" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 16:03 asciilifeform: in other lulz, intel ceo sells 100% of the stock his contract permitted him to sell ( and even filed the mandatory usg report to hitler, hence how it came out )
a111: Logged on 2018-01-02 15:37 asciilifeform: 'With the page table splitting patches merged, it becomes necessary for the kernel to flush these caches every time the kernel begins executing, and every time user code resumes executing. For some workloads, the effective total loss of the TLB lead around every system call leads to highly visible slowdowns: @grsecurity measured a simple case where Linux “du -s” suffered a 50% slowdown on a
mircea_popescu: well, there's two kinds of identities in this world : keys and brands.
ReadErr: wild stuff happening in the news today
mircea_popescu: some things just need stuffin'.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 14:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763550 << ftr, it's high time for gabriel_laddel to grasp that his item has less to do with actual lispm than a stuffed dog has with a live one
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763664 << i dunno man ; stuffed slut has a lot more to do with real woman than the unstuffed pantsuit version. ☝︎
ReadErr: asciilifeform: well lmk later if you get time im curious to hear more
phf: heh "Classification of Dugin as a fascist is justified, regardless of the fact that today the MGU professor frequently speaks not as a primitive ethnocentrist or biological racist. (...) By «fascist» we understand the «generic» meaning of the concept, used in comparatory research of contemporary right-wing extremism by such well-known historians-comparativists [etc.] ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763609 << not sure Dugin falls into either category, he's one of the "national bolshevik party" leaders, and wikipedia is eager to point out that he's a "fascist!11" and calls to hasten "end of times" with "all-out war", but linked piece is just lulzy in its Vladimir Sorokin slavic nationalist futurism ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 07:00 mircea_popescu: o look, ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap on that geopolitica."ru" item. don't tell me it's 100% more of the same old http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 / http://trilema.com/2017/datamarylandgov/#footnote_0_76632 !
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763607 << it's the "let's encrypt" registrar, it started in 2016 so the certs are missing on old deployments ☝︎
BingoBoingo: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2018/01/04/professor-learns-student-reading-book-he-finds-reprehensible-opinion << "So Al had read the Bible at my suggestion and also, I remembered, my bible, Anna Karenina, and now he was reading Mein Kampf. Our happy reunion had gone down the sewer."
ReadErr: but how would that work in a closed loop system
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell spyked http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2026&cpage=1#comment-18564 ☟︎
ReadErr: so by your design how would this work
ReadErr: that people have to expend energy/effort to get a dollar, but nothing is required to put that dollar into circulation
asciilifeform: the existence of the printing press is quite analogous to a short circuit, or memory leak, or other undesirable non-closures of systems in engineering.
asciilifeform: ~they~ print. and use the printolade to organize massive pyramid-building projects (e.g. the infamous 'battleship' that clogged the panama canal last year) and breed armies of idiots.
ReadErr: theres still the same amount in the system
ReadErr: how does that go back to the printers
ReadErr: and you arent printing the currency
asciilifeform: in exactly same sense that a hood rat stealing your car will say he 'was effecting redistribution'.
ReadErr: i would have thought it would be a redistribution
asciilifeform: when you sell something for, e.g., dollar, you are in effect giving it away to the folks with the printing press. ☟︎
ReadErr: theft of immaterial things ?
asciilifeform: printolade is a device for 'bloodless', quiet remote theft.
danielpbarron: it's finite in the sense that they eventually print so much it isn't worth anything anymore
ReadErr: printolade is a finite resource then ?
danielpbarron: ReadErr, it's a lot different. there is no limit to how many dollars get printed
asciilifeform: the sole hinge is the question of whether somebody can arbitrarily create the item out of thin air at no cost to himself.
danielpbarron: yeah i don't know how else to put it
ReadErr: well that wouldnt be any different than today ☟︎
danielpbarron: i can see a world in which local banks print notes backed by bitcoin, but the bitcoin itself is not backed
danielpbarron: ReadErr, "money" that is printed. nothing to back it (not that money must be backed)
ReadErr: not gonna lie, im lost as to what printolade is
asciilifeform: anyway, some starting points : there are two types of money. bitcoin, and printolade
jhvh1: asciilifeform: new math by tom lehrer - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwIWaJ0sy03g>; Tom Lehrer - New Math Lyrics | MetroLyrics: <http://www.metrolyrics.com/new-math-lyrics-tom-lehrer.html>; Tom Lehrer - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer>
ReadErr: apparently adults need to relearn arithmetic these days, with the 'new math' they are using
asciilifeform: the effect of understanding exactly why this is so, is not unlike the effect on child of learning arithmetic
asciilifeform: ReadErr: it's not wholly unlike the one between mercury and airplane .
ReadErr: was curious to see more
asciilifeform: ReadErr: are you familiar with the relationship between bitcoin and the empire ?
danielpbarron: yeah don't you see the topic
danielpbarron: ReadErr, i don't know that we want to "overthrow" the usg. more like, do our own thing in opposition to them, and eventually hang the bureaucrats
asciilifeform: 'hardware isn't easy to build therefore couldn't possibly be necessary, the gods would not have made this level so hard, for me, the hero' or similar. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Where the lie that the filler is the structure!
asciilifeform: he was willing to lie to self re 'clim on linux is a lispm'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's what did him in.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 16:39 mircea_popescu: don't lie, because if you do you form a sort of mental habit that will prevent you from ever inventing anything.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the hazard is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-31#1761834 ☝︎
danielpbarron: ReadErr, this channel's logs, trilema.com, or any other the other blogs by lords
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 02:18 gabriel_laddel: In my mind, lispm, or interlisp editor + fixed clim comes first. hence, have been following that route
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763557 << at this point i'm quite convinced that you can't 'fix clim'. any more than 'fix' winblowz ☝︎
ReadErr: is there anywhere one could read about this overthrowing the gov plan ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not, certainly, a lispm. any moar than old rusty toyota with the holes caulked, and oars fitted, is a boat . << Well, hazard of desyncing is ending up on the caulk chain
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 07:00 mircea_popescu: o look, ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap on that geopolitica."ru" item. don't tell me it's 100% more of the same old http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 / http://trilema.com/2017/datamarylandgov/#footnote_0_76632 !
asciilifeform: not, certainly, a lispm. any moar than old rusty toyota with the holes caulked, and oars fitted, is a boat .
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that gabriel_laddel came pretty close to building something like cuntoo (i.e. a sanely depythonized gentoo) ; which would've been useful and respectable
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 02:12 gabriel_laddel: FTR: what I bring to the table is the closest thing to LISPM available, and direction + productive discussion for those already down the rabbit hole. Non-alices need not apply.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763550 << ftr, it's high time for gabriel_laddel to grasp that his item has less to do with actual lispm than a stuffed dog has with a live one ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: In other discoveries, the little ice cream cones filled with dulce de leche. Very decadent
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1762790 << the last copy before destruction of dulap-II ☝︎
ReadErr: ohhh the board that asciilifeform made
lobbes: (I figure this is because most here, already own one or more)
lobbes: no takers on danielpbarron's FG
lobbes: I think that may have been the first non-game item auctioned with an actual sale
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-12-18 20:44:22: <lobbesbot> AUCTION # 163 has ENDED: The very notebook displayed in http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ ! Free shipping anywhere in the world included. SOLD to danielpbarron for 1mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu
lobbes: mostly is items found in the game Eulora. But just recently this was auctioned: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-12-18.log.html#t20:44:22