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asciilifeform: ( recall the fermat proof thread )
mircea_popescu: noob answers a la http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=lubos+motl it's not JUST that it doesn't go well. it goes fucking terribad.
asciilifeform: depends on the cost of evaluating $thing.
mircea_popescu: noob joins trilema, someone asks sto etcetera, noob answers.... "here's a thing i made", and it goes over well.
mircea_popescu: if you are to evaluate a <30 yo boy, do you want to see his nigger records or his work records ?
asciilifeform: though could observe, the brotherhood of folx who indeed 'serveste mie radicalurile' went pretty far.
asciilifeform: ( imho cargocultized artisanry is not particularly more attractive than this item. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu went to the wrong door, then, lol, the christians dun worship artisanry, the masonic door is down the hall
mircea_popescu: i wanna see jesus' carpenting school exam work, not that he fucking impressed a buncha journahos with his "profundity".
mircea_popescu: ges of x begot y who lived z until one falls over. THAT is what interests you ? really ?)
mircea_popescu: (has any of the reformed-judaism-that-calls-itself-xtianity folk even CONSIDER to date that it's fucking weird their divine item was shown as ~a very competent nigger~, talking smack in church and whatnot, but is not even CONSIDERED in terms of his vocation ? where's the passage in the "here's what we stole from torah" where it is gone into detail as to the quality of the man's joints ? because there's oodlebunches of idle pa
mircea_popescu: but yes, asciilifeform 's suspicion is very much my own -- the "chuka writer" and the "chuka reader" circles are very close to identity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and so what if "Even carpenter" ? most items that crawl out from between woman's legs can never be a carpenter.
mircea_popescu: which is why societies that fail to teach basic numeracy to girls as a collective spring up all the time, and quite naturally : they are realising "savings" in the sense of bacteriums.
mircea_popescu: teaching MOST girls basic numeracy is not actually a gain for the most girls in question ; the whole thing is that for the ~very fucking few~ for whom it IS a gain, it is such a thundersome gain it eclipses the "inconvenience" imposed upon the majority.
shinohai: A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will surely recreate Trilema!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/la-ce-imi-serveste-mie-radicalurile/ fails to even consider or discuss this point (for sheer lack of interest at the time), BUT : for most people, square roots as the concept do not bring any sort of gain.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the 'benefits from reading x' circle is never all ~that~ much larger than the corresponding 'could have written x' circle.
mircea_popescu: we're not even considering the point of, "could okcupid/facebook/mit/etc scum rewrite trilema". we are considering whether "the collective of x" COULD EVEN BENEFIT from reading it.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-26 06:23 asciilifeform: channelling herr naggum: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.'
a111: Logged on 2016-05-30 15:37 asciilifeform: but i find it hard to see how it is not obvious that 'every sewer rat can publish' is a considerable damper on culture
asciilifeform walks this thread back in time, finds, e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473632 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ygrade", i mean there WILL NOT, period, be anything he could have fucken found.
mircea_popescu: and i don't even mean ~subjective~ functions here! it's not a case that "to the exceptionally gifted as identified by ivy league, worth as he is maybe $1000 with clothes included, the subjectively perceived marginal value of information is slightly negative. no, no, no, OBJECTIVE, you can tell him whatever the fuck you will and he will not have any use for it -- i don't mean "he won't be able to find any use, above his $1k pa
mircea_popescu: (where HVF is the human value function, ie in most cases http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-133.333-133.484 ; and IVF the information value function, ie in most cases... http://trilema.com/2014/holy-shit-technical-analysis-is-real/#footnote_0_57849 )
mircea_popescu: here's the sad fact of the matter : if you plot the HVF against the IVF, you will discover that the diff doesn't get above water until far far FAR three standard fucking deviations out in right field. for most humans information value is negative.
mircea_popescu just re-read it, and it's like... hello 1995! where were you all these years!
mircea_popescu: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y01/038-the-archive.html << this is so fucking endearing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "going back to school" footage, http://78.media.tumblr.com/73ffe3190c6d38afe2a384cab6b1b60e/tumblr_oh67lkmHIl1rqo4hto1_400.gif
shinohai: gm mircea_popescu .... well it appears to be an Argentine, what to expect? lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do a few trades with the locals to get a feeling of the place an' report ; also gpgram me the story of bbisp fiat holdings ab origine. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-21 02:36 trinque: literature seems exactly the right item to define line of project history, both in the obvious and vtronic sense
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 22:55 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773347 <-as I realised I never said this anywhere: this trouble with no-pingbacks on page is part of the reason why I have post+page for this sort of thing (the code reference shelf is one, the bac data another) - so that pingbacks can go at least to the post introducing the page; ugly workaround of sorts
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773406 << yeah i think ima have the page style changed. ☝︎
phf: ooh ffacalc should do that
asciilifeform: i thought it was pretty clear .
asciilifeform: or rather, if foo*bar == baz print "true" else print "false" or in that spirit.
asciilifeform: phf: should print a, e.g., valid perlism or pythonism, that has an, e.g., foo*bar==baz
phf: i don't grok the first homework: do you mean produce random computations, and programmatically verify ffa against them?
trinque: asciilifeform: why'd it need to know anything about it
trinque: literature seems exactly the right item to define line of project history, both in the obvious and vtronic sense ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: is there a changelog-eating vtron somewhere ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 17:48 mircea_popescu: incidentally, there's an evident join here : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772670 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-27#1759127 are evidently the same item. have a comment format for it and bam, project philosophy file with press history.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773147 << I've got several cleanup patches coming before the walletsnip. anybody have a serious objection to me introducing a changelog in the first? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. Product is only written to as result of the FZ_Mod call , http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians#L148 , which in turn , inside FZ_Mod, is a clean 1-shot, http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch7_turbo_egyptians#L102 . QED.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771712 << at the risk of thread necromancy ( item was candidate for ch8, so i gotta ) this is false. FZ_Mod_Mul as seen in ch7 IS bufferized, because ch7's FZ_Mod is. ☝︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2018/01/20/urbanism-feminises-judaism-desexualises-or-the-waxing-fashionability-of-being-penetrated/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Urbanism feminises, Judaism desexualises. Or the waxing fashionability of being penetrated.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 17:12 mircea_popescu: i have a coupla problems in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773273 that design input is welcome on. 1. the intuitively correct format for this would be to make it a page (like http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ ) rather than an article. but mp-wp pages don't take comments/pingbacks, which im starting to think is the height of idiocy.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773347 <-as I realised I never said this anywhere: this trouble with no-pingbacks on page is part of the reason why I have post+page for this sort of thing (the code reference shelf is one, the bac data another) - so that pingbacks can go at least to the post introducing the page; ugly workaround of sorts ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: nor the war criminals whose seekritz they were. etc
asciilifeform: not arrested : the emplaced-seekritz-in-aol-acct idjit reptile
phf: " British 15-year-old gained access to intelligence operations in Afghanistan and Iran by pretending to be head of CIA, court hears"
phf: also the whole exercise only becomes worthwhile if i can also produce reasonable html out of the cweb source, since there's general allergy here to pdf/ps
phf: it's considered, i'm just thinking from which side to start unraveling this spitoon
phf: by the way, knuth's CWEB nicely solves the whole auto-wrapped comment issue. the TeX part doesn't mandate newlines, and obviously does it's own formatting, but the C part is also very aggressively formatted by the CWEB code. specifically /* comments */ are treated as TeX source, and get re-wrapped according to TeX rules.
phf: works out to about 170 pages of very nicely typeset source code. this is actually first time i'm working with printed source code proper (unlike ascii i prefer to work on-screen) and it's quite a joy
phf: dvi>ps i had to use a full tex install, because i haven't found a non-modern dvips implementation yet.
phf: in unrelated i managed to produce a literate programming dvi out of diff's source code from first principles. the actual content is not really a literate programing, since it was mechanically produced, and it doesn't yet compile since cat of headers and source produce a bunch of duplicate definitions, but first step.
diana_coman: hence the end of the line there: "I didn't really find a reasonable way to keep comments in"
mircea_popescu: every updatre to a footer (eg, the select script) has to take a bash script ? meh.
diana_coman: ftr I'm still on wp purely because there has always been something else topping the pile; I just about switched to statically generated pages too but I didn't really find a reasonable way to keep comments in
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 17:12 mircea_popescu: i have a coupla problems in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773273 that design input is welcome on. 1. the intuitively correct format for this would be to make it a page (like http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ ) rather than an article. but mp-wp pages don't take comments/pingbacks, which im starting to think is the height of idiocy.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773347 <- I think pages should take pingbacks! and tbh I never really understood why are "pages" so special; the way I see it, "pages" are just posts outside of the time-flow, "sticky" posts basically ☝︎
phf: gpgme doesn't tell you if original was armored, so requires a separate check (in before gpgme is evil), it does tell you everything about untrusted keys and source and such
asciilifeform: and probably anybody else's that verifies with gpg callout
phf: also one of polarbeard's, but that one has to be reground anyway
asciilifeform: (consider, it is the default. why??)
asciilifeform: the 'binary signature' thing is astonishingly idiotic kochism.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773313 << i wrote a little checker for eater, and the other one binary is asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch.asciilifeform ☝︎
mircea_popescu: wtf is the remote box even for, if not to do the shit i don't need supervised.
asciilifeform: why would you do this on the www box end
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, and alf has also never uploaded ten thousand images. which need to be autoscaled in multiple sizes and so on.
asciilifeform has never used the wp uploaders, or given wp write-access to any unixdir
mircea_popescu: the problem is that this intuition would seem imply that there are actually TWO kinds of links, ie first class and second class, and this is what ineptitudes like http code 30x are trying to implement
mircea_popescu: 2. if i upload items, i'd very much like to use the already extant uploader ; but that thing puts everything in year/month directories. tho i think this is actually a good thing, tell people "do not link item directly, link the code shelf itself".
shinohai: http://archive.is/5mr7c <<< In printolade news "Tether printed MORE USD than US government in 2018"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 14:39 mircea_popescu was considering making a similar item too, it's a pretty good idea.
mircea_popescu: i have a coupla problems in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773273 that design input is welcome on. 1. the intuitively correct format for this would be to make it a page (like http://trilema.com/eulora-shop/ ) rather than an article. but mp-wp pages don't take comments/pingbacks, which im starting to think is the height of idiocy. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: only thorn is the xml baked in, but w/e.
spyked is reading the spec ( http://archive.is/FQ7P ); until now, lived with the wrong idea that pingbacks are a wp-dependent thing. but hey, it looks pretty clear!
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to be .php
mircea_popescu: note however the format is flexible, there's a tag to announce rpc endpoint, and you can put there whatever you want.
mircea_popescu: that is tru.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 15:53 mircea_popescu: this is not even a fair statement : if you notice such a call in your log fail, it is YOUR item that is broken. the assumption that you're pingbackable is in fact ~The Right Thing~.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-20#1773311 <-- pingback -- yes. XML-RPC -- dunno; I am not running php, so having a file called xmlrpc.php in my tree seems a bit odd; although I guess this is particular to wordpress, not to XML-RPC ☝︎
asciilifeform: spyked: result should be bitwise-equal to what is now on my www.
spyked: hi asciilifeform. applied your pill on my tree, can confirm it did the job
shinohai: Too bad 'OR 1=1/* doesn't work on them.
BingoBoingo: At least that's less repetitive
shinohai: Now your task involves getting sane output from a computer.
BingoBoingo: But is very nice to have a day where the task does not involve trying to recieve sane outputs from the locals
BingoBoingo: Going to need to get a beefier box here, likely going to be a beefy opteron fueled supermicro box
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did you settle on what you'll use to offer vps ?
BingoBoingo: In other news, signing contracts Monday in the afternoon. This weekendś adventure setting up a MUSL webserver for Qntra.
asciilifeform: ^ unlike 'just sign again', this will fix OTHER people's sig
a111: Logged on 2018-01-20 11:37 spyked: ftr, asciilifeform's ch4 seal (grabbed from http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/ffa_ch4_ffacalc.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig ) also seems to be binary (found it while double-checking my copies)
mircea_popescu: this is not even a fair statement : if you notice such a call in your log fail, it is YOUR item that is broken. the assumption that you're pingbackable is in fact ~The Right Thing~. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: 99% of all the stuff in anyone's www log is crap anyway ; going up to 100% in the case of facebook world.
mircea_popescu: so if they go to non-wp links what happens.
spyked: calls should go only to WP links though, right? I don't remember how Wordpress did it (did it look for /xmlrpc.php ?). though I suppose it should work either way (non-WP links would 404 and that's that)